Expansion Markets

darkcloud4579 · 12-30-2014, 03:41 PM

So I have a 307-year old OOTP league that I started back in 2008 or something and I've brought it up with every version.

Anyway, my league has evolved into a major league setup with major leagues in Canada, Japan and three major leagues in the U.S.

I'm not looking to expand overseas, so that's not where I'd like to put teams. I'm interested in more US based teams, but want some help figuring out markets since I'm trying not to move teams as much as I normally do.

Here a US map of the league at the moment.

Here are the largest CSAs without clubs. Though most have had teams before:

Milwaukee
Charlotte (our NC team plays in durham for historical reasons)
Riverside
San Diego
San Jose
Austin
Providence
Jacksonville
Buffalo
Birmingham
Rochester
Grand Rapids
Tucson
Honolulu
Bridgeport
Albuquerque
Albany
Knoxville
Allentown
Columbia SC

There are others, but that's a good start. I guess I'm crowdsourcing my brainstorming because I've spent lots of time looking at all sorts of ideas and I'm just looking to inject other people's brainpower into this one, so...feel free to share your .02 and I'll figure it out from there.

Thanks.

Assos · 12-30-2014, 04:23 PM

What is your league set up? Divisions? Are you looking to expand by 2 in each league? Are you looking for teams set in a geographic area of the US?

joefromchicago · 12-30-2014, 04:37 PM

If you're playing a century or more into the future, you shouldn't be tied to the largest metropolitan areas as they exist today. Considering the effects of global warming, you might find that Saskatoon will have a bigger population than Miami (which will be underwater). Likewise, access to fresh water will be critical, so cities around the Great Lakes like Erie, PA and Kingston, ONT may see their populations explode. And Bismarck, ND might turn out to be the next Dallas.

It's your world - you get to decide if populations remain static or if they change over time. Just remember: in 1910, the population of Phoenix, AZ was under 15,000. A century later, it is the sixth-most populous city in the US.

darkcloud4579 · 12-30-2014, 05:03 PM

Silver Maples just saw someone with a shirt and I wanna remind myself to name a team that

darkcloud4579 · 12-30-2014, 05:04 PM

Also this is awesome feedback. Getting the brain flowing!

USF · 12-30-2014, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by joefromchicago

If you're playing a century or more into the future, you shouldn't be tied to the largest metropolitan areas as they exist today. Considering the effects of global warming, you might find that Saskatoon will have a bigger population than Miami (which will be underwater). Likewise, access to fresh water will be critical, so cities around the Great Lakes like Erie, PA and Kingston, ONT may see their populations explode. And Bismarck, ND might turn out to be the next Dallas.

It's your world - you get to decide if populations remain static or if they change over time. Just remember: in 1910, the population of Phoenix, AZ was under 15,000. A century later, it is the sixth-most populous city in the US.

I'd recommend Fort McMurry, AB - Oil Sands growth over the next 30 years is going to be huge (despite the recent oil price crash of late)....

Buffalo is also another favorite of mine. Just turn on 550 AM in the local area and I don't think these people ever stop talking about their sports teams... So passionate!

ThatSeventiesGuy · 12-30-2014, 06:01 PM

Hmm....El Paso, maybe? Or is that too many Texas teams?

darkcloud4579 · 12-30-2014, 06:32 PM

I thought it's be helpful for you to see my current Major League markets across my leagues.

darkcloud4579 · 12-30-2014, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by USF

I'd recommend Fort McMurry, AB - Oil Sands growth over the next 30 years is going to be huge (despite the recent oil price crash of late)....

Buffalo is also another favorite of mine. Just turn on 550 AM in the local area and I don't think these people ever stop talking about their sports teams... So passionate!

Ft McMurray is a great idea. Buffalo I'm considering returning to as well.

Bluenoser · 12-30-2014, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

Ft McMurray is a great idea. Buffalo I'm considering returning to as well.

Build a domed stadium with a good heating system

USF · 12-30-2014, 07:12 PM

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Originally Posted by darkcloud4579

Ft McMurray is a great idea. Buffalo I'm considering returning to as well.

Fort McMurry Oilers would be appropriate

Buffalo Bills - let them have a shot at a championship after 0-4 in the NFL ;-)

ThatSeventiesGuy · 12-30-2014, 08:11 PM

Ah, already got El Paso, then? I'd maybe try Grand Rapids. It'll probably replace Detroit as Michigan's largest city in the next 50 years.

darkcloud4579 · 12-30-2014, 10:08 PM

Thanks gang. Awesome stuff.

Assos · 12-31-2014, 11:08 AM

What about a team in the Dakotas? Booming area right now, has a rich baseball history and would fill the void in the northern mid-west.

12-30-2014, 03:41 PM	#1
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,689	Expansion Markets So I have a 307-year old OOTP league that I started back in 2008 or something and I've brought it up with every version. Anyway, my league has evolved into a major league setup with major leagues in Canada, Japan and three major leagues in the U.S. I'm not looking to expand overseas, so that's not where I'd like to put teams. I'm interested in more US based teams, but want some help figuring out markets since I'm trying not to move teams as much as I normally do. Here a US map of the league at the moment. Here are the largest CSAs without clubs. Though most have had teams before: Milwaukee Charlotte (our NC team plays in durham for historical reasons) Riverside San Diego San Jose Austin Providence Jacksonville Buffalo Birmingham Rochester Grand Rapids Tucson Honolulu Bridgeport Albuquerque Albany Knoxville Allentown Columbia SC There are others, but that's a good start. I guess I'm crowdsourcing my brainstorming because I've spent lots of time looking at all sorts of ideas and I'm just looking to inject other people's brainpower into this one, so...feel free to share your .02 and I'll figure it out from there. Thanks. __________________ ------ My Mods OOTP Advanced Stats & DFS Suite Managerial Strategy Pack Competitive Balance Tax Calculator Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| ---- Dynasty classics: Centurion comes to OOTP5 \| DC Moneyball Dynasty (2004)

12-30-2014, 04:37 PM	#3
joefromchicago Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2011 Posts: 3,712	If you're playing a century or more into the future, you shouldn't be tied to the largest metropolitan areas as they exist today. Considering the effects of global warming, you might find that Saskatoon will have a bigger population than Miami (which will be underwater). Likewise, access to fresh water will be critical, so cities around the Great Lakes like Erie, PA and Kingston, ONT may see their populations explode. And Bismarck, ND might turn out to be the next Dallas. It's your world - you get to decide if populations remain static or if they change over time. Just remember: in 1910, the population of Phoenix, AZ was under 15,000. A century later, it is the sixth-most populous city in the US. __________________ American-Ethnic (and Canadian) Namesets Historical Minor League Schedules 1870s City/Team Nickname Randomizers "It's Usually Sunny in Philadelphia" weather mod Negro League Schedules

12-30-2014, 05:03 PM	#4
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,689	Silver Maples just saw someone with a shirt and I wanna remind myself to name a team that __________________ ------ My Mods OOTP Advanced Stats & DFS Suite Managerial Strategy Pack Competitive Balance Tax Calculator Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| ---- Dynasty classics: Centurion comes to OOTP5 \| DC Moneyball Dynasty (2004)

12-30-2014, 05:04 PM	#5
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,689	Also this is awesome feedback. Getting the brain flowing! __________________ ------ My Mods OOTP Advanced Stats & DFS Suite Managerial Strategy Pack Competitive Balance Tax Calculator Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| ---- Dynasty classics: Centurion comes to OOTP5 \| DC Moneyball Dynasty (2004)

12-30-2014, 06:01 PM	#7
ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,426	Hmm....El Paso, maybe? Or is that too many Texas teams? __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1 Last edited by ThatSeventiesGuy; 12-30-2014 at 06:04 PM.

12-30-2014, 04:23 PM	#2
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	What is your league set up? Divisions? Are you looking to expand by 2 in each league? Are you looking for teams set in a geographic area of the US?

12-30-2014, 06:32 PM	#8
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,689	I thought it's be helpful for you to see my current Major League markets across my leagues. __________________ ------ My Mods OOTP Advanced Stats & DFS Suite Managerial Strategy Pack Competitive Balance Tax Calculator Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| ---- Dynasty classics: Centurion comes to OOTP5 \| DC Moneyball Dynasty (2004)

12-30-2014, 08:11 PM	#12
ThatSeventiesGuy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2013 Location: Midland, MI Posts: 3,426	Ah, already got El Paso, then? I'd maybe try Grand Rapids. It'll probably replace Detroit as Michigan's largest city in the next 50 years. __________________ https://forums.ootpdevelopments.com/...00&postcount=1

12-30-2014, 10:08 PM	#13
darkcloud4579 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 8,689	Thanks gang. Awesome stuff. __________________ ------ My Mods OOTP Advanced Stats & DFS Suite Managerial Strategy Pack Competitive Balance Tax Calculator Major League Women's Baseball (OOTP24) quickstart Indian Premier League \| 300+ years of baseball quickstart \| Expatriate League quickstart \| Off-Field Injuries Update \| Women's Name File for OOTP \| ---- Dynasty classics: Centurion comes to OOTP5 \| DC Moneyball Dynasty (2004)

12-31-2014, 11:08 AM	#14
Assos All Star Starter Join Date: May 2004 Location: Just on the fair side of the foul pole! Posts: 1,772	What about a team in the Dakotas? Booming area right now, has a rich baseball history and would fill the void in the northern mid-west.