Curse you storylines!!

[pgjocki]

So, after reading the forums I took the plunge a few weeks ago and bought OOTP 14 as my first entry into this genre. I tried to take as many lessons learned and I decided to leave storylines on as an option.

It is July 22 in my first year with the Pirates and I get this lovely email:

"This is not how J.P. Crawford wanted his career to end -- with an injury. He wanted to go out on his terms. Instead, a concussion has forced him to retire from baseball. The Bradenton shortstop plans to meet with the media later this afternoon. In the meantime, he released a brief statement, in which he acknowledged the support of "the organization, the training staff, my teammates, and all the fans."

"So far this year, Crawford is batting .289 with 1 home run and 12 RBIs."

This was my first round draft pick, with a potential of 72 and a $2 million dollar bonus. Do I get any of the money back or am I just S.O.L.?

Also, is there anyway to reverse this or keep it from happening again without having to restart my league?

[Peregrine]

You are out of luck in terms of money. You can't really reverse it without starting the league over or restoring from backup - you may want to turn storylines off next time!

[goalieump413]

But seriously, if your game is still running, don't exit. Hit ctrl/alt/del and go to task manager and exit the game from there. The database will have to be cleaned up by the game, which will take a little while, but it will work (kudos to Markus for a rock solid game). Then, turn story lines off. All your game transactions since your last start will be undone.

[pgjocki]

Thanks for the quick responses, I am going to give those options a chance...and change my settings.

[Déjà Bru]

Two things:

1. That's not a storyline item. That's an injury.
2. You can always edit a player if you are the commissioner. That even includes unretiring the guy and resetting his career-ending injury.

[goalieump413]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Two things:

1. That's not a storyline item. That's an injury.
2. You can always edit a player if you are the commissioner. That even includes unretiring the guy and resetting his career-ending injury.

Question: If the injury occurs in a non-game situation, is that an injury (DL, etc) or is it a storyline condition? I ask because pgjocki's quoted text didn't include anything regarding suffering the injury in a game.

@pgjocki: Did the injury occur in-game? Did you see a injury popup?

[bly08]

On a separate note, definitely stash Crawford for at least two years or so before calling him up. A rookie playing the month after he's drafted is unheard of.

[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by Déjà Bru

Two things:

1. That's not a storyline item. That's an injury.
2. You can always edit a player if you are the commissioner. That even includes unretiring the guy and resetting his career-ending injury.

That's EXACTLY what I thought the second I read it.

That sounds like an email you get when an injury worsens, not a storyline-related item. But even if it IS a storyline, I'm still not seeing the problem. People moan all the time about how horrible storylines are, simply because they get a bad one and lose a player or something. Isn't that the POINT of having storylines on in the first place?

[Silent_Thunder]

Originally Posted by Fyrestorm3

That's EXACTLY what I thought the second I read it.

That sounds like an email you get when an injury worsens, not a storyline-related item. But even if it IS a storyline, I'm still not seeing the problem. People moan all the time about how horrible storylines are, simply because they get a bad one and lose a player or something. Isn't that the POINT of having storylines on in the first place?

Lord knows if I could turn "storylines" off in real life I would. Just had to do a double shift because of a career ending amount of apathy on behalf of one of my coworkers. he got the pink slip, I got all his work with no extra pay.

[olivertheorem]

Originally Posted by bly08

On a separate note, definitely stash Crawford for at least two years or so before calling him up. A rookie playing the month after he's drafted is unheard of.

He was probably in the minors. I'm pretty sure you get that message even if the affected player is in the minors.

[bly08]

ah I see

[pgjocki]

To answer the questions:

All I know is that he suffered a concussion, I don't know if it happened in a game or not.

He was playing in the Rookie League as I figured new players would need a season at Rookie League, single A and double A before being called up.

[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by pgjocki

All I know is that he suffered a concussion, I don't know if it happened in a game or not.

If you didn't get an story prior to this one about him suffering the concussion, then it was an injury, not a storyline. Dude got a concussion in-game, suffered a setback, and ultimately had his career cut short before it began.

You just fell victim to some horrible, horrible, luck; it had nothing to do with storylines.

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Peregrine

You are out of luck in terms of money. You can't really reverse it without starting the league over or restoring from backup - you may want to turn storylines off next time!

He's not out of luck in terms of money. When the player retires the contract expires, he does not pay the full amount out. That would only happen if he releases him.

[injury log]

Everything Fyrestorm and Deja Bru say above is correct. Nothing whatsoever to do with storylines. And you can unretire players if you just go to Manager Options from your Manager menu, turn on 'Commissioner Mode', then go to the player's profile and click on the Action menu button at the bottom. When you unretire a guy, he'll be a free agent, but you can then either sign him again, or go into the Editor tab in his Profile and, in the lefthand pane, assign him back to a minor league team in your organization.

[The Wolf]

Turn off storylines anyway.

[Raidergoo]

You may have had him shortlisted, which explains the email.

[Fyrestorm3]

Originally Posted by Raidergoo

You may have had him shortlisted, which explains the email.

I believe a career-ending injury of a player in your system gets you an email automatically.

If not, it should.

[Déjà Bru]

Originally Posted by goalieump413

Question: If the injury occurs in a non-game situation, is that an injury (DL, etc) or is it a storyline condition? I ask because pgjocki's quoted text didn't include anything regarding suffering the injury in a game.
@pgjocki: Did the injury occur in-game? Did you see a injury popup?

Just to clarify, I searched through the file default_storylines.xml for the phrase "wanted his career to end" and did not find it. Then I searched english.xml (in the \Documents\Out of the Park Developments\OOTP Baseball 14\text folder) and found it here:

<OBJ id="31728">
<TXT>This is not how [%personlink] wanted his career to end -- with an injury. He wanted to go out on his terms. Instead, [%injurydescription] has forced him to retire from baseball. The [%team#1link] [%playerposition] plans to meet with the media later this afternoon. In the meantime, he released a brief statement, in which he acknowledged the support of "the organization, the training staff, my teammates, and all the fans."</TXT>
</OBJ>

It's my understanding that english.xml contains the text of e-mail messages that you receive for various reasons, one of which is player injury. So, the injury module caused this occurrence, not storylines.

[Jeff Reed]

Originally Posted by Silent_Thunder

Lord knows if I could turn "storylines" off in real life I would. Just had to do a double shift because of a career ending amount of apathy on behalf of one of my coworkers. he got the pink slip, I got all his work with no extra pay.

lol...not laughing at your bad luck, but this was funny to read.