When Will OOTP Sell Franchise Logic to SCEA or 2K Sports?

[Silent_Thunder]

Originally Posted by reds1869

Agreed. I play Road to The Show constantly but don't even touch franchise mode any more. OOTP is so perfect for me that console franchise mode isn't fun any more.

I always hated Franchise mode in those sort of games because it always felt cheesy when your team had an average of .400 simply because you were good at timing the hits. Unless you bumped it from the 2nd highest difficulty to the highest, where the game instead goes to full on cheating bastard mode. At least if it was Career mode, I could just be a great player, not an unstoppable juggernaut of a team.

Why do those sort of games always have 3 piss easy modes, and then a super hard mode?

[bly08]

Originally Posted by LondonYankee

As a Football Manager player for 13 years I can confirm that for all the marketing good that came out of Sega's purchase of SI the end user has suffered. Having just discovered OOTP I hope they don't ever go that route!

I think Sega's done a good job of leaving development alone. Major problems with regens, transfers, etc have been reworked, and I feel like every new feature added have been pretty successful.

[Silent_Thunder]

Originally Posted by bly08

I think Sega's done a good job of leaving development alone. Major problems with regens, transfers, etc have been reworked, and I feel like every new feature added have been pretty successful.

Seems most of the whining in that game is every time they change the match engine to quash old exploits, everyone gets up in arms because their gamey tactics no longer worked. People need to stop trying to find sweet spots with the somewhat arbitrary sliders and instead just use some real football smarts. It's what I do and I've never had ME changes screw me over that way. Who'dve though right?

[The Wolf]

Originally Posted by Silent_Thunder

Why do those sort of games always have 3 piss easy modes, and then a super hard mode?

It's called "bad design."

[Cryomaniac]

Originally Posted by Silent_Thunder

I always hated Franchise mode in those sort of games because it always felt cheesy when your team had an average of .400 simply because you were good at timing the hits. Unless you bumped it from the 2nd highest difficulty to the highest, where the game instead goes to full on cheating bastard mode. At least if it was Career mode, I could just be a great player, not an unstoppable juggernaut of a team.

Why do those sort of games always have 3 piss easy modes, and then a super hard mode?

Because it's easier to make the AI cheat at the highest difficulty level than to actually make it better.

[r0nster]

I love how the game is for it allows the beginner to grow into the game and then as the player gets better he/she can vastly make the game more challanging than ever.

this game evolves greatly around the player. Many options and more each year. Always looking to improve to make game play better and unique. Maybe the person who started this didnt exactly understand this with this being so unique and fun allowing a persons mind to do the graphics as it were which makes it more powerful and helps make the player get into the game more deeply.

[ihatenames]

Originally Posted by NateAndStuff

The Show is almost unplayable after I discovered OOTP. I still love Road to the Show and stuff but Franchise Mode is dead to me.

I agree when it comes to franchise stuff. But I do play the two games differently. I typically sim more and focus on franchise management in OOTP. In the show I play manage only mode and play out every game. In that respect the show plays a fairly realistic game. Not 100% sim but convincing enough.

In other words there is room for both in my life.