Pitch Outs...

Donevyn · 06-08-2011, 11:53 AM

How are folks doing when they pitch out and the runner does take off from 1st to 2nd? What's your success rate? I had a 15 arm catcher take 3 pitch outs on a steal rated runner of 20 and not get him either time. Maybe understandable. But then same catcher rating on a p-o on a 17 rated stealer. All 3 were in safe. I've tried this other times, but don't remember the ratings, but it seem's to me my success rate in less then 10% if that. I'm just curious is it just my bad luck, or is this a 'tendency'.

Thanks.

perfectDARK · 06-08-2011, 02:50 PM

Too small a sample size to draw conclusions. Be wary of that in the future, that's a staple statement around these parts

Personally I don't pitch out too often. I'd like to go pitch by pitch but one pitch is just so darn convenient

phillupi · 06-08-2011, 04:17 PM

I have caught people with pitch outs and vice versa. Check pitcher hold ratings also.

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Syd Thrift · 06-08-2011, 04:33 PM

IIRC pitch-outs only increase the success rates from around 30% to 50% IRL, although I don't have the numbers in front of me. They aren't the automatic baserunner kill people think they are.

Donevyn · 06-09-2011, 12:07 AM

Thanks folks. I realize it's a small sample but several things made me sensitive to the matter. One, I just saw said catcher in a real game throw out a couple runners. Then, in game, I tie Texas for the season and have to have a play-off game for 1st place. (and this is after my CY pitcher goes on the disabled list with 9 games left in season and play-offs ready to start). So play-off game with Texas goes 11 innings and Texas wins by 3 successful steals, two of which were successful steals with pitch outs.Baseball gawds are pounding me down

Donevyn · 06-09-2011, 11:50 AM

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Originally Posted by phillupi

I have caught people with pitch outs and vice versa. Check pitcher hold ratings also.

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So a pitchers hold rating is a partial determinant in a pitch out? Not just the speed of the runner versus arm of the catcher?

phillupi · 06-09-2011, 03:02 PM

I can't say for sure but I would think so. Maybe palli can comment.

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06-08-2011, 11:53 AM	#1
Donevyn Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UP, WA Posts: 360	Pitch Outs... How are folks doing when they pitch out and the runner does take off from 1st to 2nd? What's your success rate? I had a 15 arm catcher take 3 pitch outs on a steal rated runner of 20 and not get him either time. Maybe understandable. But then same catcher rating on a p-o on a 17 rated stealer. All 3 were in safe. I've tried this other times, but don't remember the ratings, but it seem's to me my success rate in less then 10% if that. I'm just curious is it just my bad luck, or is this a 'tendency'. Thanks.

06-08-2011, 02:50 PM	#2
perfectDARK Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2010 Posts: 101	Too small a sample size to draw conclusions. Be wary of that in the future, that's a staple statement around these parts Personally I don't pitch out too often. I'd like to go pitch by pitch but one pitch is just so darn convenient __________________ Act your act, Joanna

06-09-2011, 12:07 AM	#5
Donevyn Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2011 Location: UP, WA Posts: 360	Thanks folks. I realize it's a small sample but several things made me sensitive to the matter. One, I just saw said catcher in a real game throw out a couple runners. Then, in game, I tie Texas for the season and have to have a play-off game for 1st place. (and this is after my CY pitcher goes on the disabled list with 9 games left in season and play-offs ready to start). So play-off game with Texas goes 11 innings and Texas wins by 3 successful steals, two of which were successful steals with pitch outs.Baseball gawds are pounding me down Last edited by Donevyn; 06-09-2011 at 11:52 AM.

06-08-2011, 04:17 PM	#3
phillupi All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 814	I have caught people with pitch outs and vice versa. Check pitcher hold ratings also. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk

06-09-2011, 03:02 PM	#7
phillupi All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2011 Posts: 814	I can't say for sure but I would think so. Maybe palli can comment. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk