Career Ending Injury

rexis · 08-27-2010, 05:10 PM

I just lost Jair Jurrjens and Derek Lowe in the second season of my Braves franchise. Any way to stop losing my best players to these career ending injury? FWIW I have my injury slider set to High (Realistic Modern day)

edm · 08-27-2010, 05:26 PM

despite its description I personally find High a bit too drastic. I usually go with low and even very low. Though low is probably the most realistic imo.

actionjackson · 08-27-2010, 05:44 PM

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Originally Posted by rexis

I just lost Jair Jurrjens and Derek Lowe in the second season of my Braves franchise. Any way to stop losing my best players to these career ending injury? FWIW I have my injury slider set to High (Realistic Modern day)

Yep. Stick this injury file in your database folder. It will not get rid of all CEIs unfortunately, but it will drastically reduce them. As for Jurrjens, Lowe or any player on an AI team that you want to "revive", first go into commish mode via the Manager Options page. In this mode you will get an extra tab in the player profile called "Editor". You can use this to unretire the player using the Action button. Once that's done the player will be placed in the Free Agent pool. Go into the Editor section of the individual player's profile and look for the "Team Information, Select new Team" function on the left side of the player's editor page. First select the league in question, then select the team you wish to place the player on. It's probably most fair if you give the player the same injury as he had before and have him miss the same amount of total time that he was scheduled to miss when the injury occurred. It's also probably most fair if you restore players from all teams and not just yours.

Syd Thrift · 08-27-2010, 07:03 PM

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Originally Posted by edm

despite its description I personally find High a bit too drastic. I usually go with low and even very low. Though low is probably the most realistic imo.

It probably depends on your era, although I play in the 30s and still like High. Low is definitely easier to manage though.

actionjackson · 08-27-2010, 07:09 PM

I play with retire according to history and recalc on and player development off, so career ending injuries are abundantly redundant for my taste. The player is already going to retire when he's supposed to. I don't want him taken out of the database before his time thankyou very much. Go ahead and sideline him for a year and a half with a nasty injury if you want, but let me be in charge of when players retire.

Left-handed Badger · 08-28-2010, 01:30 AM

WEll, I've been known to edit it into 12 months injuries. At least I do with young players. Jurrjens I probably would, Lowe maybe not.

fspikec · 08-28-2010, 03:15 AM

Even low gets out of hand at times, Lost 2 SPs in August, called 2 up, had one of the 2 go down with CEI (was also my number 1 pick 2 years ago) and then my star CF gets a CEI on defensive play (fractured skull) a week later.

I think that was the 1st time I ever restored from a backup.

Left-handed Badger · 08-28-2010, 03:45 AM

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Originally Posted by fspikec

Even low gets out of hand at times, Lost 2 SPs in August, called 2 up, had one of the 2 go down with CEI (was also my number 1 pick 2 years ago) and then my star CF gets a CEI on defensive play (fractured skull) a week later.

I think that was the 1st time I ever restored from a backup.

Well, I have restored quite a few times. THough, practically all occasions were due to one old computer I had that would decide to completely lock up at very wierd times. Locking up in the middle of me simming a month ahead was "perfect" because the games were recorded, but for some reason the individual stats wouldnt be. Such disruption was "perfect".

DWK · 08-28-2010, 05:58 AM

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Originally Posted by fspikec

Even low gets out of hand at times, Lost 2 SPs in August, called 2 up, had one of the 2 go down with CEI (was also my number 1 pick 2 years ago) and then my star CF gets a CEI on defensive play (fractured skull) a week later.

I think that was the 1st time I ever restored from a backup.

I have my set to "low" and had 3 go down to CEI's this season in my online league the players were all young I went in and set them all to 18 month and put a comment in saying they are trying to make a come back from a major injury.

I seems as I look back over 7 seasons of league play there has been at least 1 every season which I think is to high for the "low setting"

After that I went in and adjusted injury file I did not take CEI's complete out but I did adjust how many there are.

Curtis · 08-28-2010, 02:24 PM

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Originally Posted by DWK

I seems as I look back over 7 seasons of league play there has been at least 1 every season…

Is that one in the league, or one for your team?

actionjackson · 08-28-2010, 06:28 PM

I don't think I'd mind CEIs if I played fictionals, but I don't. If I did, I'd probably swap out my custom injury file with the original one. You have more players with fictionals, so there's more of a buffer there and some of us when playing historicals like to see guys stick around for as long as they did IRL. Admittedly it's a personal thing, so you've got to decide what's right for you and go with it.

Left-handed Badger · 08-28-2010, 07:31 PM

Actually, I'd make more of a habit of taking a look see at all CEIed players my team or no for turning into the 18 month thing. But, the AI has a habit of dumping them like useless garbage right after the game is played. Personally, that just seems unrealistic, even if it is a career ender the guy wouldnt be cut 2 hours after that game. And in fact probably would be DLed for the season. In real life, the organization would get in a bit of a PR disaster for such treatment.

Course, there was one guy who got CEIed in a OOTP league of mine a few years ago, that got dumped like that from SF. And on the last day of the season I laid hands and miraculously healed him, and so in the offseason I briefly took over the Dodgers to sign him. Just to be evil.

Tram2Whitaker · 08-28-2010, 07:45 PM

I usually leave my settings at default. I'm not sure what that is. However, I don't really see too many CEIs, although they seem to come at the worst times: Like it's doing it on purpose.

Had a team on a playoff run, lose their #1 pitcher (by the way, never sign Ben Sheets. He always ends with a CEI). Had a different team lose their leadoff hitter, got me fired.

And by the way. Who quits baseball with a concussion? football I understand, but baseball? And how does one receive a concussion in baseball? I know that Rowand got one when he smacked into the wall, but how often does that happen?

Curtis · 08-28-2010, 08:48 PM

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And by the way. Who quits baseball with a concussion? football I understand, but baseball? And how does one receive a concussion in baseball? I know that Rowand got one when he smacked into the wall, but how often does that happen?

Absolutely seriously, it happens about twice a year to the Mets. Hit in head by 98 mph pitch, players collided in the outfield, ran into the bullpen gate, hit infielder's knee sliding headfirst into second, you name it. I think I remember a few years ago a first baseman (not a Met) got a concussion from stumbling backwards into a batter overrunning first.

And I'm sure I've missed some. I read an article on Yahoo! sports a week or so ago that said at that time there were five players on the DL with concussions, and that article didn't mention the Mets' Jason Bay. Of those, two were expected to be season-enders, and Bay's may turn out to be.

Fircoal · 08-28-2010, 08:50 PM

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(by the way, never sign Ben Sheets. He always ends with a CEI)

Tell that to the A's

Left-handed Badger · 08-28-2010, 10:15 PM

Corey Koskie had a concussion that turned out to be a career ender. (though he might have played some international ball since then)

DWK · 08-29-2010, 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtis

Is that one in the league, or one for your team?

1 in the league

bosunmate · 08-29-2010, 12:48 PM

I also think there are too many CEI and i always use OOTP classic as i find that the best for me. I wish there was a way to limit the number per season for the league. Say 2 or 3 per year for the whole league. This is a topic that has come up year after year ever since CEI were introduced....

rexis · 08-29-2010, 07:02 PM

They just got Roy Halladay with that CEI in my third year but I went in and unretire him. They need to address this issue in OOTP12

BusterKing · 08-29-2010, 10:24 PM

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08-28-2010, 01:30 AM	#6
Left-handed Badger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: at the altar of the baseball god praying for middle infield that can catch the ball Posts: 2,036	WEll, I've been known to edit it into 12 months injuries. At least I do with young players. Jurrjens I probably would, Lowe maybe not. __________________ -Left-handed groundball specialist -Strikeouts are for wimps

08-28-2010, 07:31 PM	#12
Left-handed Badger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: at the altar of the baseball god praying for middle infield that can catch the ball Posts: 2,036	Actually, I'd make more of a habit of taking a look see at all CEIed players my team or no for turning into the 18 month thing. But, the AI has a habit of dumping them like useless garbage right after the game is played. Personally, that just seems unrealistic, even if it is a career ender the guy wouldnt be cut 2 hours after that game. And in fact probably would be DLed for the season. In real life, the organization would get in a bit of a PR disaster for such treatment. Course, there was one guy who got CEIed in a OOTP league of mine a few years ago, that got dumped like that from SF. And on the last day of the season I laid hands and miraculously healed him, and so in the offseason I briefly took over the Dodgers to sign him. Just to be evil. __________________ -Left-handed groundball specialist -Strikeouts are for wimps

08-28-2010, 07:45 PM	#13
Tram2Whitaker All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Posts: 619	I usually leave my settings at default. I'm not sure what that is. However, I don't really see too many CEIs, although they seem to come at the worst times: Like it's doing it on purpose. Had a team on a playoff run, lose their #1 pitcher (by the way, never sign Ben Sheets. He always ends with a CEI). Had a different team lose their leadoff hitter, got me fired. And by the way. Who quits baseball with a concussion? football I understand, but baseball? And how does one receive a concussion in baseball? I know that Rowand got one when he smacked into the wall, but how often does that happen? __________________ 404'd!

08-28-2010, 10:15 PM	#16
Left-handed Badger Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: at the altar of the baseball god praying for middle infield that can catch the ball Posts: 2,036	Corey Koskie had a concussion that turned out to be a career ender. (though he might have played some international ball since then) __________________ -Left-handed groundball specialist -Strikeouts are for wimps

08-29-2010, 10:24 PM	#20
BusterKing Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Ontario, Canada Posts: 2,433	nm Last edited by BusterKing; 08-30-2010 at 06:48 AM.

08-27-2010, 05:10 PM	#1
rexis Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 41	Career Ending Injury I just lost Jair Jurrjens and Derek Lowe in the second season of my Braves franchise. Any way to stop losing my best players to these career ending injury? FWIW I have my injury slider set to High (Realistic Modern day)

08-27-2010, 05:26 PM	#2
edm All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,999	despite its description I personally find High a bit too drastic. I usually go with low and even very low. Though low is probably the most realistic imo.

08-27-2010, 07:09 PM	#5
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,181	I play with retire according to history and recalc on and player development off, so career ending injuries are abundantly redundant for my taste. The player is already going to retire when he's supposed to. I don't want him taken out of the database before his time thankyou very much. Go ahead and sideline him for a year and a half with a nasty injury if you want, but let me be in charge of when players retire.

08-28-2010, 03:15 AM	#7
fspikec Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2010 Posts: 99	Even low gets out of hand at times, Lost 2 SPs in August, called 2 up, had one of the 2 go down with CEI (was also my number 1 pick 2 years ago) and then my star CF gets a CEI on defensive play (fractured skull) a week later. I think that was the 1st time I ever restored from a backup.

08-28-2010, 06:28 PM	#11
actionjackson Hall Of Famer Join Date: Apr 2009 Location: Toronto, ON Posts: 6,181	I don't think I'd mind CEIs if I played fictionals, but I don't. If I did, I'd probably swap out my custom injury file with the original one. You have more players with fictionals, so there's more of a buffer there and some of us when playing historicals like to see guys stick around for as long as they did IRL. Admittedly it's a personal thing, so you've got to decide what's right for you and go with it.

08-29-2010, 12:48 PM	#18
bosunmate All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,757	I also think there are too many CEI and i always use OOTP classic as i find that the best for me. I wish there was a way to limit the number per season for the league. Say 2 or 3 per year for the whole league. This is a topic that has come up year after year ever since CEI were introduced....

08-29-2010, 07:02 PM	#19
rexis Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2009 Posts: 41	They just got Roy Halladay with that CEI in my third year but I went in and unretire him. They need to address this issue in OOTP12