Sim vs. Played?

Midnitelouie · 05-16-2003, 03:43 AM

My apologies if this has been covered before, but after digging through twenty pages of old messages, I didn't see the answer, so I thought I would go ahead and post it...

Weird situation which may just be my oddities in playing OOTP5, but I've noticed something that I wanted to float past you guys before I went much further.

Is there a difference in the way that the game determines the stats for a player in "played" games vs. simmed games?

The reason that I bring this up is from two glaring statistical oddities that I noticed for my team within a fictional league. Thus far, for my team, I've played every single game. No simmin' for my team, no siree! But I've found two "weird" things.

1.) I lead the major leagues in ERA. Not too shabby, considering I drafted rather heavily in favor of pitching and have a decent staff. (If I do say so myself.) However, the team ERA is something around 2.40. Again, not that big a deal, but the next best ERA in the league sits at something like 3.42.

2.) My batting sucks. Completely. I am 30 out of 30 teams in BA. The team BA for me is near .241. The next worst? .258. While not as glaring a difference as the ERA, it still seems rather odd that a first place divisional team with 55+ wins by the all-star break has this poor of hitting throughout the lineup.

Again, it may just be me...but I thought I would ask anyway.

kq76 · 05-16-2003, 03:55 AM

I don't think so, but maybe.

As for #1, maybe your staff really is just that much better performance wise with your help telling them what to do and/or just by their own ability.

For #2, I really don't put much emphasis on BA, how are your OBP and OPS ratings in comparison to the rest of the league? But here again, perhaps you're getting more out of the players by controlling them yourself (I'm thinking small ball here) than the computer would.

Steve Kuffrey · 05-16-2003, 05:53 AM

The game uses the SAME ENGINE to process both, the ONLY differences are YOUR decisions.

Unless, you are left-handed and use the keyboard....

j/k

PLG · 05-16-2003, 10:18 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey
The game uses the SAME ENGINE to process both, the ONLY differences are YOUR decisions.

Unless, you are left-handed and use the keyboard.... j/k

That's why I'm loosing, I'm left-handed.

JML · 05-16-2003, 12:05 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by PLG
That's why I'm loosing, I'm left-handed.

I know that I dl'ed the left-handed version, yet I still can't seem to win it all. What's the deal?

Eric · 05-16-2003, 12:37 PM

The difference in the ERAs may be due to the way that you and the AI handle relievers. I notice in a lot of games that I play that the AI tends to use more relief pitchers than me. They would bring in a pitcher to pitch to one or two batters. This may wind up tiring out the relievers to a point that they have to leave their starter in longer then they want or have tired relievers pitch, thus allowing more runs.

For me, if I had a reliever pitch the last two days, I would try to rest him rather than use him and have him not available later.

LivnLegend · 05-16-2003, 01:31 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by JML
I know that I dl'ed the left-handed version, yet I still can't seem to win it all. What's the deal?

Did you remember to rotate your keyboard 180 degrees?
Common mistake.

PassTheBottle · 05-16-2003, 01:34 PM

I play about 10-15 games a year and sim the rest in my latest solo endeaver (1985 was the start year with a fantsy draft, 2 new blank teams and a division realignment like modern day)

Biggest difference I see is my Leadoff Guy, Mike Felder, is always leaps and bounds beyond any other guys in either league in SB , always at least by 15-20 , hes avg 70 SB the last few years, high of 78. Granted, I run him by steal or hit and run - EVERY time he is on and have strategies set like that.

05-16-2003, 05:53 AM	#3
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	The game uses the SAME ENGINE to process both, the ONLY differences are YOUR decisions. Unless, you are left-handed and use the keyboard.... j/k __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

05-16-2003, 01:34 PM	#8
PassTheBottle Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Palm Coast, FL Posts: 72	I play about 10-15 games a year and sim the rest in my latest solo endeaver (1985 was the start year with a fantsy draft, 2 new blank teams and a division realignment like modern day) Biggest difference I see is my Leadoff Guy, Mike Felder, is always leaps and bounds beyond any other guys in either league in SB , always at least by 15-20 , hes avg 70 SB the last few years, high of 78. Granted, I run him by steal or hit and run - EVERY time he is on and have strategies set like that. __________________ Brian "BJ" Jordan CBL - Daytona Beach FatBoys NABL - Newark Bears

05-16-2003, 03:43 AM	#1
Midnitelouie Bat Boy Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 8	Sim vs. Played? My apologies if this has been covered before, but after digging through twenty pages of old messages, I didn't see the answer, so I thought I would go ahead and post it... Weird situation which may just be my oddities in playing OOTP5, but I've noticed something that I wanted to float past you guys before I went much further. Is there a difference in the way that the game determines the stats for a player in "played" games vs. simmed games? The reason that I bring this up is from two glaring statistical oddities that I noticed for my team within a fictional league. Thus far, for my team, I've played every single game. No simmin' for my team, no siree! But I've found two "weird" things. 1.) I lead the major leagues in ERA. Not too shabby, considering I drafted rather heavily in favor of pitching and have a decent staff. (If I do say so myself.) However, the team ERA is something around 2.40. Again, not that big a deal, but the next best ERA in the league sits at something like 3.42. 2.) My batting sucks. Completely. I am 30 out of 30 teams in BA. The team BA for me is near .241. The next worst? .258. While not as glaring a difference as the ERA, it still seems rather odd that a first place divisional team with 55+ wins by the all-star break has this poor of hitting throughout the lineup. Again, it may just be me...but I thought I would ask anyway.

05-16-2003, 03:55 AM	#2
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 12,048	I don't think so, but maybe. As for #1, maybe your staff really is just that much better performance wise with your help telling them what to do and/or just by their own ability. For #2, I really don't put much emphasis on BA, how are your OBP and OPS ratings in comparison to the rest of the league? But here again, perhaps you're getting more out of the players by controlling them yourself (I'm thinking small ball here) than the computer would. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) For Beta/Devs: Full screen (1920x1080)

05-16-2003, 12:37 PM	#6
Eric All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: Folsom, CA Posts: 1,234	The difference in the ERAs may be due to the way that you and the AI handle relievers. I notice in a lot of games that I play that the AI tends to use more relief pitchers than me. They would bring in a pitcher to pitch to one or two batters. This may wind up tiring out the relievers to a point that they have to leave their starter in longer then they want or have tired relievers pitch, thus allowing more runs. For me, if I had a reliever pitch the last two days, I would try to rest him rather than use him and have him not available later.