Armando Galarraga has a Perfect Game stolen from him by an ump

[Bluenoser]

Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Well, having watched the video of the play, I think it was a lot closer than many of you are giving it credit for. In live action it looked like a very close play to me.

One of the still photos I've seen shows the runner being out by a step. But, in that photo you can still see the ball. Seems to me the ball simply reaching the first baseman's glove is not enough, he has to actually catch it. That means we should see little of the ball since, when caught, it's inside his glove. In which case the runner is out by considerably less than a stride.

It doesn't have to be entirely inside his glove either though, does it? Isn't it more a matter of the player has "control" of the ball?

I used to umpire fastball games and I saw my share of "ice cream cones", where the ball is still sticking out of the end of the glove enough to be quite visible, but it's also still in the players control. This of course, is a judgement call.

[funkadillo]

Originally Posted by cephasjames

I think they should use androids for umps, personally. "Data, you're behind the plate tonight. Lore, you're at first."

Not a good idea. Lore would've called the last batter safe as well, just to be mean.

[Cooleyvol]

Originally Posted by Bluenoser

It doesn't have to be entirely inside his glove either though, does it? Isn't it more a matter of the player has "control" of the ball?

I used to umpire fastball games and I saw my share of "ice cream cones", where the ball is still sticking out of the end of the glove enough to be quite visible, but it's also still in the players control. This of course, is a judgement call.

I'm pretty sure you don't have control until the ball's in the glove. This was no 'snowcone' in the end.

[Green & Gold Heart]

Not gonna do it.

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig says he'll look at expended instant replay in wake of blown call - ESPN

[Bobbuttons]

Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Not gonna do it.

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig says he'll look at expended instant replay in wake of blown call - ESPN

Wouldn't be prudent at this juncture.

[CommishJoe]

Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Not gonna do it.

Baseball commissioner Bud Selig says he'll look at expended instant replay in wake of blown call - ESPN

Wow, that's the most misleading article title I've seen in a while. Here's what he said about reversing the call:

"As Jim Joyce said in his postgame comments, there is no dispute that last night's game should have ended differently. While the human element has always been an integral part of baseball, it is vital that mistakes on the field be addressed. Given last night's call and other recent events, I will examine our umpiring system, the expanded use of instant replay and all other related features. Before I announce any decisions, I will consult with all appropriate parties, including our two unions and the Special Committee for On-Field Matters, which consists of field managers, general managers, club owners and presidents."

There is "speculation" that he won't reverse the call, but no official statement that I can find specifically stating that.

[dsvitak]

I don't like Bud Selig, but I agree with him here.

All you can do is to fix this going forward.

I see an NFL-style system going forward, with challenges being allowed for fair or foul, safe or out, an of course, homers.

[Cooleyvol]

Originally Posted by CommishJoe

Wow, that's the most misleading article title I've seen in a while. Here's what he said about reversing the call:



There is "speculation" that he won't reverse the call, but no official statement that I can find specifically stating that.

This is in the first paragraph of the linked article:

Baseball comissioner Bud Selig said he would look at the game's umpiring system and the expanded use of instant replay, but would not reverse the blown call that cost Armando Galarraga of the Detroit Tigers a perfect game on Wednesday night.

[95Marinerschangedmylife]

Note #1 I am surprised no one has mentioned the 85 World Series. I am pretty sure St Louis winning game 6 is alot more debatable then this perfect game. Should they overturn that?

Note #2 I believe that one of the big issues about not allowing to much instant replay in Baseball is the slowing of an already slow game. I love baseball and everything about it but not everyone else feels the same. Slowing down the game even more will most definately lose fans.

[CommishJoe]

Originally Posted by Cooleyvol

This is in the first paragraph of the linked article:

Baseball comissioner Bud Selig said he would look at the game's umpiring system and the expanded use of instant replay, but would not reverse the blown call that cost Armando Galarraga of the Detroit Tigers a perfect game on Wednesday night.

It's been updated since I read it. When I read it, it said "sources say" at the beginning.

[funkadillo]

Originally Posted by 95Marinerschangedmylife

Note #2 I believe that one of the big issues about not allowing to much instant replay in Baseball is the slowing of an already slow game. I love baseball and everything about it but not everyone else feels the same. Slowing down the game even more will most definately lose fans.

The only slowness of the game that bothers me is the endless commercials. Cut down on commercial time and the game would flow at a much smoother pace.

Besides, allowing each team a challenge or two would not slow the game down that much. Should every play be reviewed? No, but you need to get the important calls right.

[MorseMoose]

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

But this play doesn't change the outcome of the game at all.

That can be the line. If it is the 27th out and it doesn't change the outcome of the game, we can review it. If it doesn't meet that situation we will not make a change.

If it doesn't change the outcome, why reverse it at all?

I'd say if it affects Win/Loss records (which, in reality is all that matters when it comes to playoffs/World Series chances), that's when it should matter.

A perfect game is great...sure. But it just goes into the record books. A loss, when you should have had a win, could affect playoff status.

[Goody]

Are the people getting on the batter that broke it up really serious? Its a 3 run game. The guy in the on deck circle is the tying run...

Should he role over and give the guy a perfect game because, why?

Is it cause he's on the Indians and they pretty much have no chance after their team was picked dry by contenders with more money?