waaaaaay too many injuries

[mike2228]

Is there anyway to turn down the injuries? I don't think i've made it through a single season with losing a big time star to injuries, most of them lengthly, plus many many injuries to lesser players.

[damientheomen3]

go to the game dropdown menu, and select 'game setup.' there should be a setting for injury frequency. I recommend setting it to low, but the injuries could be because your players' injury frequencies are high

[Timeless]

My '69 Expos team is getting slaughtered. I have injuries set to Very Low. I have all the patches installed. Two SPs, one key MR, and my RF (Staub) all crocked for 4-7 months, variously.

This wouldn't even be realistic for an NFL sim, let alone baseball.

Is there a way to manually fix this?

[PhillieFever]

Injuries have researched thoroughly on this site by various members.The bottom line is that the injury model is dead on accurate.New members are invariably taken aback by the number of injuries when they first start playing the game,until of course they do the research themselves and find that yes there are that many injuries in baseball.

[damientheomen3]

Originally Posted by Timeless

My '69 Expos team is getting slaughtered. I have injuries set to Very Low. I have all the patches installed. Two SPs, one key MR, and my RF (Staub) all crocked for 4-7 months, variously.

This wouldn't even be realistic for an NFL sim, let alone baseball.

Is there a way to manually fix this?

Playing in a cold weather area heightens injuries, but besides that it's really just bad luck.

Originally Posted by PhillieFever

Injuries have researched thoroughly on this site by various members.The bottom line is that the injury model is dead on accurate.New members are invariably taken aback by the number of injuries when they first start playing the game,until of course they do the research themselves and find that yes there are that many injuries in baseball.

Thats not true at all. While many members have accepted the injury model for what it is, most all board veterans know that the long term injuries occur too often for hitters and are too infrequent for pitchers.

[risp2out]

Yeah. Sucks when it happens to you, but it's not at all out of line. Think of the Mets this year: Beltran, Reyes, Delgado, Santana, Nieve, Neise, Martinez, and on and on. Check the real life mid-year injury reports. At least a third of the teams have injury situations comparable to those cited above.

[RchW]

Originally Posted by damientheomen3

Thats not true at all. While many members have accepted the injury model for what it is, most all board veterans know that the long term injuries occur too often for hitters and are too infrequent for pitchers.

Yeah, pitcher injury frequencies are way way off. The main frustration I have is the effect that has on pitcher career stats.

[PhillieFever]

Originally Posted by damientheomen3

Playing in a cold weather area heightens injuries, but besides that it's really just bad luck.





Thats not true at all. While many members have accepted the injury model for what it is, most all board veterans know that the long term injuries occur too often for hitters and are too infrequent for pitchers.

I was talking about the number of injuries,which is what the OP was complaining about,not the injury distribution.

[RoyEarl]

I am inclined to agree with this...to a point.

My issue is that the difference between all of the injury levels is slight, meaning between low and normal in unnoticeable but the difference between low and very low in huge so that you only really have two settings here...very low which is way to low and low and above which I think tends to be too high - a average week long sim will produce 3-4 6+ month injuries...as a disclaimer here I have never experimented with anything beyond normal...

[HoGs]

The frequency of injuries is irritating, but my main complaint is to whom they happen. I had Zito go down for half the season when he's NEVER been injured in real life.

[Cooleyvol]

Originally Posted by HoGs

The frequency of injuries is irritating, but my main complaint is to whom they happen. I had Zito go down for half the season when he's NEVER been injured in real life.

This isnt a replay.

[HoGs]

Of course the game isn't a replay, but c'mon. Would you be OK with Duane Kuiper leading the leagues in HRs?

[kq76]

Those of you complaining about injuries in this thread, are you sure you're not just still going off your impressions or tests of OOTP9? I know I sometimes do that with different aspects of the game, thinking that something is still like it was in a previous version.

Not that I believe everything I read either, but some points to consider:

• OOTP10 was initially advertised as having an overhauled and improved injury system
• a search of "injur*" posted by Markus brings up a number of posts where he staunchly defends the much improved realistic accuracy of the injury system (1, 2, 3, etc)
• people on the beta team with access to detailed studies done on the system seem to be at least content with it (I'm sure I could link to many more posts by different betas, but just trust me on this one)
• even the ratio of pitcher to hitter long-term injuries (see BZ# 2910), which I myself felt was a problem, was apparently fixed

Now I haven't done or read any of these in-depth studies that others have and just from my online league I suspect that things could maybe still be improved, but if those who have read these studies are confident in the results then I tell myself I should be too, barring any new information.

Originally Posted by HoGs

Of course the game isn't a replay, but c'mon. Would you be OK with Duane Kuiper leading the leagues in HRs?

Cooley's right. You can put any name out there you like and it won't matter because OOTP just isn't a strict replay game. The only valid argument you could make to show that something is wrong with the injury system is to provide a detailed study on how OOTP doesn't come close to real life's results based on (thousands of?) thousands of anonymous player seasons. Anything less than that is just speculation.

If you're not happy with Kuiper leading the league in HRs then I'm sure there's some historical setting you should set differently. I'm not an expert on that stuff, but I imagine that if you start a thread on the topic then someone who is will reply to it.