Patch #2 - Development Report - Page 2

Riverdome · 07-03-2008, 09:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

OSA is only used when scouts are off, since then OSA has the real ratings. When scouting is enabled, the ratings you see are from your current scouting director, as well as past scouting directors.

Not to make things more complicated but . . . on nearly every other screen showing ratings the user has to choose between OSA and their scout. If choosing between the two doesn't apply in this case I understand not have the drop down box, but it seems to have the potential to be confusing.

Neags23 · 07-03-2008, 10:11 AM

Definitely a huge improvement. Almost exactly what I was looking for.

As said above, it'd be great if the columns were sortable and you could filter out certain positions and/or players.

The only other improvements would be an option allowing you to use more frequent reports. If scouting is off, for instance, it would be nice to have an option to say you want more frequent updates than once per year. Then, you could choose if you want to see development changes every 6 months, every 3 months, etc. Once a year is a little skimpy.

Using scouts, this is a better report. You have the option of using the last scouting report that might be a month or 3 months old. But then it jumps to a year. It would be nice to choose a particular date to use. Like if I wanted to see how players developed since opening day, I could choose the opening day report.

Overall, though, very, very nice. I think my development tracker might now be obsolete.

One question, Markus... will these changes be saved in a .csv anywhere? I could see the potential for a development graph mod if these changes can be accessed via the data dumps.

Great work!

dankrzyz · 07-03-2008, 10:16 AM

This is much, much more than just putting the report back into the game... this is a big improvement! I never found much value in the old development reports, but this new report gives a lot of context, history, and analysis.

Long_Long_Name · 07-03-2008, 10:20 AM

Well, I can't say this is the ideal way, at least for me, of dealing with development reports (I'd prefer a log of all changes as they happen), but it's nevertheless a welcomed addition. Thank you, Mr. Heinsohn

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deadringer · 07-03-2008, 10:21 AM

This is very cool, I like!

TribeFanInNC · 07-03-2008, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by eMLBCommish

Does this mean the Hartford Whalers theme song FINALLY made it into OOTP!?

Such a great piece of music cannot be denied!

That would be GREAT!

I played a whole season of NHL '93 with the Whalers just to hear Brass Bonanza at the face offs. Ahhh...Geoff Sanderson, Kevin Dineen...the memories.

Back to the thread, the Dev Report looks great Markus. Keep up the good work!

Long_Long_Name · 07-03-2008, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by TribeFanInNC

That would be GREAT!

I played a whole season of NHL '93 with the Whalers just to hear Brass Bonanza at the face offs. Ahhh...Geoff Sanderson, Kevin Dineen...the memories.

Back to the thread, the Dev Report looks great Markus. Keep up the good work!

That was the reason I loved playing against the Whalers in NHL 95

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MizzouRah · 07-03-2008, 10:43 AM

Excellent Markus!

I use 2-8 - so I still think it will be useful in determining who's really improving.

Kelric · 07-03-2008, 10:52 AM

I had forgotten the awesomeness of the Whalers' theme song. The new Development Report wishes it was half as cool.

The Wolf · 07-03-2008, 11:08 AM

This is a big positive improvement, Markus.

BoHill · 07-03-2008, 11:30 AM

This is a fine improvement and sure to add a lot to the management.

Thanks, Markus!

Markus Heinsohn · 07-03-2008, 11:31 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

HTML output option?

No... this would be way too complicated, and not needed IMO.

fantom1979 · 07-03-2008, 11:32 AM

This looks very nice, thank you

Markus Heinsohn · 07-03-2008, 11:34 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

Well, I can't say this is the ideal way, at least for me, of dealing with development reports (I'd prefer a log of all changes as they happen),

Well, in OOTP 9 there is no 'as they happen'... it's a flowing development, no sudden changes. That's the reason why the old report was gone in the first place

Long_Long_Name · 07-03-2008, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Markus Heinsohn

Well, in OOTP 9 there is no 'as they happen'... it's a flowing development, no sudden changes. That's the reason why the old report was gone in the first place

Haven't we been through this before?

I didn't mean radical changes. I mean any minuscule change. If a guy has +1 in contact over the past year (with scouting off), there was a point in time, a date where he went from a 7 to an 8, no?

But yeah, overall, it's a good thing that it flows rather than having spectacular flameouts.

bosunmate · 07-03-2008, 12:15 PM

Great news Markus how about those lockable lineups, please Sir give us more good news it is maddening to have the computer change your lineups...

Markus Heinsohn · 07-03-2008, 12:15 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Long_Long_Name

If a guy has +1 in contact over the past year (with scouting off), there was a point in time, a date where he went from a 7 to an 8, no?

No, because internally the ratings are on a 1-200 scale, so in your case, he would go from 70 to 80, and this does not happen since he improves by single steps

Tony M · 07-03-2008, 12:20 PM

Markus, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure when I first looked at this thread the + and - bits were on the far right with the ratings in the centre. Or did I just imagine that?

Jon277 · 07-03-2008, 12:32 PM

well done Markus, welllll done!

akw4572 · 07-03-2008, 12:40 PM

I wasn't complaining with the way it was, but this is tremendous.

07-03-2008, 10:11 AM	#22
Neags23 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2006 Posts: 1,577	Definitely a huge improvement. Almost exactly what I was looking for. As said above, it'd be great if the columns were sortable and you could filter out certain positions and/or players. The only other improvements would be an option allowing you to use more frequent reports. If scouting is off, for instance, it would be nice to have an option to say you want more frequent updates than once per year. Then, you could choose if you want to see development changes every 6 months, every 3 months, etc. Once a year is a little skimpy. Using scouts, this is a better report. You have the option of using the last scouting report that might be a month or 3 months old. But then it jumps to a year. It would be nice to choose a particular date to use. Like if I wanted to see how players developed since opening day, I could choose the opening day report. Overall, though, very, very nice. I think my development tracker might now be obsolete. One question, Markus... will these changes be saved in a .csv anywhere? I could see the potential for a development graph mod if these changes can be accessed via the data dumps. Great work! __________________ GM Havana Sugar Kings, World Baseball League - 2000, 2003, 2005 WBL Champions Former GM Washburn Sea Wolves Dog Days Baseball - 1981 & 1986 Kennel Cup Champions

07-03-2008, 10:20 AM	#24
Long_Long_Name Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Montréal Posts: 7,065	Well, I can't say this is the ideal way, at least for me, of dealing with development reports (I'd prefer a log of all changes as they happen), but it's nevertheless a welcomed addition. Thank you, Mr. Heinsohn . __________________ Beta Baseball. Join it!

07-03-2008, 11:32 AM	#33
fantom1979 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Detroit, MI Posts: 3,498	This looks very nice, thank you __________________

07-03-2008, 12:20 PM	#38
Tony M Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2006 Location: Here Posts: 6,156	Markus, correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm sure when I first looked at this thread the + and - bits were on the far right with the ratings in the centre. Or did I just imagine that? __________________ This signature is intentionally blank

07-03-2008, 12:32 PM	#39
Jon277 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Rhode Island Posts: 158	well done Markus, welllll done! __________________ Jon Pass

07-03-2008, 10:16 AM	#23
dankrzyz Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Denver, CO Posts: 305	This is much, much more than just putting the report back into the game... this is a big improvement! I never found much value in the old development reports, but this new report gives a lot of context, history, and analysis.

07-03-2008, 10:21 AM	#25
deadringer All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: La Grande, Oregon Posts: 995	This is very cool, I like!

07-03-2008, 10:43 AM	#28
MizzouRah Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Troy, Mo Posts: 6,266	Excellent Markus! I use 2-8 - so I still think it will be useful in determining who's really improving.

07-03-2008, 10:52 AM	#29
Kelric Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Greater Boston Area Posts: 3,992	I had forgotten the awesomeness of the Whalers' theme song. The new Development Report wishes it was half as cool.

07-03-2008, 11:30 AM	#31
BoHill Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2007 Posts: 20	This is a fine improvement and sure to add a lot to the management. Thanks, Markus!

07-03-2008, 12:15 PM	#36
bosunmate All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Canada Posts: 1,772	Great news Markus how about those lockable lineups, please Sir give us more good news it is maddening to have the computer change your lineups...

07-03-2008, 12:40 PM	#40
akw4572 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Location: Kentucky Posts: 2,601	I wasn't complaining with the way it was, but this is tremendous.