2007 New York Yankees Thread

[Skipaway]

Originally Posted by myasu

Not necessarily their best games...but I know what 1998Yankees means.

I am sure there are tons of Non-Yankee-players out there who would be highly motivated whenever they play against teams like the Yankees, Red Sox. I think that is the way many of the athletes feel when they play against the so called better/strong teams.

The place would be packed with people.
If you play well against teams like the Yankees, you get more media attention. (Specially if you are a young player)

I think what means is something more simple: because he's a Yankees fan, so he'd like to think that way. With that kind of thinking, if the Yankees are not doing well, it's not the Yankees' fault, but the other teams are playing harder. If the Yankees are doing well, it feels even better before it's done despite the other teams are playing harder.

Good moral victory either way.

It's hard to see players suddenly try to hit Clemens harder because he's with the Yankees instead of the Astros.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by myasu

Not necessarily their best games...but I know what 1998Yankees means.

I am sure there are tons of Non-Yankee-players out there who would be highly motivated whenever they play against teams like the Yankees, Red Sox. I think that is the way many of the athletes feel when they play against the so called better/strong teams.

The place would be packed with people.
If you play well against teams like the Yankees, you get more media attention. (Specially if you are a young player)

Originally Posted by Skipaway

I think what means is something more simple: because he's a Yankees fan, so he'd like to think that way. With that kind of thinking, if the Yankees are not doing well, it's not the Yankees' fault, but the other teams are playing harder. If the Yankees are doing well, it feels even better before it's done despite the other teams are playing harder.

Good moral victory either way.

It's hard to see players suddenly try to hit Clemens harder because he's with the Yankees instead of the Astros.

It's a little of both.

[CommishJoe]

Originally Posted by thomamon

Sorry, I'd rather not win the WS then ROOT to get in as a WC. If there is a chance to win the division, and your not eliminated, you fight for it to the end. I think the WC should be removed from MLB. Perhaps 4 divisions per league would be better.

Its really disgusting how these teams down the stretch are settling for the WC and not fighting for the division. Their is prestige in winning a division, especially for a 10th season in a row. Saying well, we got the WC, so lets relax and just get in is insulting.

I personally, don't think highly of any of the MLB teams that have won the WS as a wild card and would have a harder time roooting for team who is in the post season because of it.

That's not an issue the Yankees' management can solve. I would agree that the wild card should be eliminated and there should be 4 divisions. However, until then, you take what you can get. Starting Clemens last night with a sore hamstring would have been stupid given their current situation. Magic # of 1 to get into the playoffs!! After the April/May they had, I'm more than happy with that outcome. The fact that they even came close to the Sox surprises me.

As for Clemens, I don't mind the signing, but they did overpay. It keeps a rotation spot warm for one of their future "big 3".

I was disappointed to read that they are shutting Kennedy down for the rest of the year. Between the back spasms and his innings getting close to "his yearly limit", they decided it wasn't worth it to risk him any more this year. He did say he was hoping to at least work out of the pen at least once more this year, but I doubt he's on the post-season roster With Ramirez melting down as well, it looks like K-Fag(also known as F********h and other things that can't be mentioned here) might end up on the post-season roster after all

[1998 Yankees]

Michael Kay brought this up tonight:

He says the Twins will be shopping Santana around this off-season and naturally a trade for him will require great value in return, most likely top prospects.

Kay asked boothmate Al Leiter whether he would trade Chamberlain for Santana (perhaps giving up other prospects as well for an established star, but let's stop there). Leiter said he would do it, that Chamberlain is an unproven 22-year-old while Santana is in his prime at 28 and is a known quantity, an all-time great.

I say, no, NO, NO!

Even if Chamberlain turns out to be a bust, I would never take a chance on trading a player with his potential and several years of service to offer the Yankees for a star who would be a free agent at the end of the season. There is no guarantee that Santana would re-sign with the Yankees, so I would be trading years of Chamberlain's early career for one season of Santana before having to take the chance of losing him to free agency. By the way, I used the same argument against the idea of trading Chamberlain and Cabrera for Gagne. What's that they say on Wall Street about past performance being no guarantee of future results?

Chamberlain for Santana? I say, no, NO, NO!

What do you say?

[thomamon]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Michael Kay brought this up tonight:

He says the Twins will be shopping Santana around this off-season and naturally a trade for him will require great value in return, most likely top prospects.

Kay asked boothmate Al Leiter whether he would trade Chamberlain for Santana (perhaps giving up even more prospects for an established star, but let's stop there). Leiter said he would do it, that Chamberlain is an unproven 22-year-old while Santana is in his prime at 28 and is a known quantity.

I say, no, NO, NO!

Even if Chamberlain turns out to be a bust, I would never take a chance on trading a player with his potential and several years of service to offer the Yankees for a star who would be a free agent at the end of the season. There is no guarantee that Santana would re-sign with the Yankees, so I would be trading years of Chamberlain's early career for one season of Santana before having to take the chance of losing him to free agency. By the way, I used the same argument against the idea of trading Chamberlain and Cabrera for Gagne.

Chamberlain for Santana? I say, no, NO, NO!

What do you say?

No way, not a chance. But then again, I said I wouldn't trade Soriano for A-Rod...

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by thomamon

No way, not a chance. But then again, I said I wouldn't trade Soriano for A-Rod...

A-Rod had four solid years left on his contract when that trade went down. Not the same thing but thanks for the agreement.

Let's say something weird happens and Chamberlain tanks next year. By the time we conclude that he's another Chase Wright (), Santana will have won his 20 games, copped another Cy Young Award, and be on the market. Let the Yankees bid on him then.

[1998 Yankees]

Originally Posted by CommishJoe

Magic # of 1 to get into the playoffs!! After the April/May they had, I'm more than happy with that outcome. The fact that they even came close to the Sox surprises me.

Magic # is now 0. Nice going, Yanks.

[myasu]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Magic # is now 0. Nice going, Yanks.

Now we can both enjoy the rest of the 2007 baseball season!
Hope it will last all the way to ALCS.

[Dagrims]

Originally Posted by myasu

Now we can both enjoy the rest of the 2007 baseball season!
Hope it will last all the way to ALCS.

That's realistic for a Sox fan. I'm hoping that it lasts all the way to the World Series championship, myself.

[Tony M]

If we get schedule choice and are playing the Angels with the Yankees at the Indians should we take the 7 day one instead of the 8 day one.

If we give CLE-NYY the 8 day series Cleveland will be able to use Sabathia and Carmona for games 1, 2, 4 and 5 on proper rest. I'd rather the Yankees faced that than us.

[1998 Yankees]

Boy oh boy, this is going to be great! I like these matchups!

[CommishJoe]

Should be a great Wild Card Series no matter who we play. Both the Angels and Indians will be dangerous in a 5 game series.

[CommishJoe]

Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

Michael Kay brought this up tonight:

He says the Twins will be shopping Santana around this off-season and naturally a trade for him will require great value in return, most likely top prospects.

Kay asked boothmate Al Leiter whether he would trade Chamberlain for Santana (perhaps giving up other prospects as well for an established star, but let's stop there). Leiter said he would do it, that Chamberlain is an unproven 22-year-old while Santana is in his prime at 28 and is a known quantity, an all-time great.

I say, no, NO, NO!

Even if Chamberlain turns out to be a bust, I would never take a chance on trading a player with his potential and several years of service to offer the Yankees for a star who would be a free agent at the end of the season. There is no guarantee that Santana would re-sign with the Yankees, so I would be trading years of Chamberlain's early career for one season of Santana before having to take the chance of losing him to free agency. By the way, I used the same argument against the idea of trading Chamberlain and Cabrera for Gagne. What's that they say on Wall Street about past performance being no guarantee of future results?

Chamberlain for Santana? I say, no, NO, NO!

What do you say?

Absolutely not!! Chamberlain has too much potential to trade away for Santana or anyone else.

[Joshv02]

I'm in a bizzaro world

Chamberlain has, what, a 10% chance of ever having a season as good as one can expect from Johan? Joba is still not the top pitching prospect in the AL East , let alone above Johan

[Gastric ReFlux]

Originally Posted by Joshv02

I'm in a bizzaro world

Chamberlain has, what, a 10% chance of ever having a season as good as one can expect from Johan? Joba is still not the top pitching prospect in the AL East , let alone above Johan

Santana plays in Minnesota, so teams aren't hyped to try as hard against him.

[CommishJoe]

Originally Posted by Joshv02

I'm in a bizzaro world

Chamberlain has, what, a 10% chance of ever having a season as good as one can expect from Johan? Joba is still not the top pitching prospect in the AL East , let alone above Johan

I lived through the 80s where all kids were traded off for vets (not all of them good). Yes, I'd love to see Santana in a Yankee uniform. But, not if it costs Joba. I haven't been this hyped about a Yankee rookie in a long time.

[Tony M]

I hope Joba does very well. I know there's been an array of rookies through TEE this year. There was a lot of talk about Hughes earlier this year, and then Ramirez. Hopefully the curse of rookie-god doesn't strike Joba (except in the ALCS if necessary )

[mlyons]

Santana's the best pitcher in baseball. All the potential in the world means Chamberlain might someday be as good as Santana is now.

[1998 Yankees]

It's hard to believe that, at 92-67, the Yankees are tied with the Angels for the second best record in the major leagues.

[1998 Yankees]

Woot! Nathan strikes out Varitek and Youkilis with the bases loaded, bottom of the ninth, and the Twins win 5-4. BoSox lead is down to 2 games again with three to go. Stay tuned this weekend.