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Old 08-22-2007, 11:52 PM   #1
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Texas breaks 110 yr. old mark


BALTIMORE (AP) - The Texas Rangers became the first team in 110 years to score 30 runs in a game, setting an American League record Wednesday in a 30-3 rout of the Baltimore Orioles.

Trailing 3-0 in the opener of a doubleheader, the Rangers scored five runs in the fourth, nine in the sixth, 10 in the eighth and six in the ninth. It was the ninth time a major league team scored 30 runs, the first since Chicago set the major league record in a 36-7 rout of Louisville in a National League game on June 28, 1897, according to the Elias Sports Bureau.

Marlon Byrd and Travis Metcalf hit grand slams for the Rangers. Jarrod Saltalamacchia and Ramon Vazquez, the bottom two batters in Texas' lineup, each homered twice and finished with seven RBIs.

David Murphy had five of the Rangers' 29 hits, the most by a major league team since Milwaukee had 31 in a 22-2 victory over Toronto on Aug. 28, 1992, according to Elias.

Texas also set a team record for runs scored in a doubleheader - before the second game even started.

Hours after announcing manager Dave Trembley would return for the 2008 season, the Orioles absorbed the most lopsided loss in franchise history and set a team record for hits allowed in a game.

Saltalamacchia, a rookie who came in batting .179, went 4-for-6 with a walk and scored five runs.

Kason Gabbard (6-1) allowed three runs and seven hits over six innings. He is 2-1 in six starts since Texas acquired him from Boston on July 31.

Even with the one-sided score, there was a save. Wes Littleton earned his second career save and first this season by pitching three scoreless innings.


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Old 08-23-2007, 12:21 AM   #2
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Okay...Dont shoot the messenger here,but being from texas I have to say I am 100% proud of the Rangers Accomplishment tonight,and was quite startled when I found out.
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Old 08-23-2007, 12:31 AM   #3
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Old 08-23-2007, 04:12 AM   #4
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So what is the record? We know it is at least 36 (thanks to that tid bit in the article. Though speaking as a HS pitcher (who also happened to pitch in relief of a 21-3 loss in high school) I weep.


Note: Though, I am not sure how much my ERA suffered that game because we had like 8-10 errors. (our RF, who was definitely in for his bat, had 1 putout.......for the season)
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:15 AM   #5
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Okay...Dont shoot the messenger here,but being from texas I have to say I am 100% proud of the Rangers Accomplishment tonight,and was quite startled when I found out.
Why would you be proud of this? If that were my team, I'd be embarrassed. Somewhere around being up by 20 in the 9th, you can stop swinging for the fences.

I'm not saying the Rangers should have stood there with the bat on their shoulders, because that may be showing up the Orioles more so than swinging. But there's no excuse for hitting a 3-run homer up by 24 runs in the 9th inning.

I'm actually more proud of the Orioles for not plunking the next batter up. I thought for sure that'd be coming.

27-3, and Vazquez hits a 3-run dinger? That's just bush.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:18 AM   #6
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Why would you be proud of this? If that were my team, I'd be embarrassed. Somewhere around being up by 20 in the 9th, you can stop swinging for the fences.
It's the Rangers. With their pitching staff, a 20-run lead isn't nearly as secure as it might sound.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:26 AM   #7
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So what is the record? We know it is at least 36 (thanks to that tid bit in the article. Though speaking as a HS pitcher (who also happened to pitch in relief of a 21-3 loss in high school) I weep.


Note: Though, I am not sure how much my ERA suffered that game because we had like 8-10 errors. (our RF, who was definitely in for his bat, had 1 putout.......for the season)
retrosheet.org only lists the "modern" leaders (1901 and on, I guess), so their list says 26 is (was) the record. Texas certainly shattered that.

http://retrosheet.org/boxesetc/MISC/XOT.htm

Just scroll down a bit to see the single-game runs records. Texas also scored 26 runs in a 1996 game, by the way.
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Old 08-23-2007, 10:39 AM   #8
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Just as long as they do not resign Chan Ho Park, then it was safe.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:01 AM   #9
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Why would you be proud of this? If that were my team, I'd be embarrassed. Somewhere around being up by 20 in the 9th, you can stop swinging for the fences.

I'm not saying the Rangers should have stood there with the bat on their shoulders, because that may be showing up the Orioles more so than swinging. But there's no excuse for hitting a 3-run homer up by 24 runs in the 9th inning.

I'm actually more proud of the Orioles for not plunking the next batter up. I thought for sure that'd be coming.

27-3, and Vazquez hits a 3-run dinger? That's just bush.
Oh I am sorry, I thought it was the Orioles job to stop the Rangers from scoring, I didn't realize it was the Rangers job. Man I have been going about baseball all wrong, it should be the hitters that should try to keep themselves from scoring runs.
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Why would you be proud of this? If that were my team, I'd be embarrassed. Somewhere around being up by 20 in the 9th, you can stop swinging for the fences.

I'm not saying the Rangers should have stood there with the bat on their shoulders, because that may be showing up the Orioles more so than swinging. But there's no excuse for hitting a 3-run homer up by 24 runs in the 9th inning.

I'm actually more proud of the Orioles for not plunking the next batter up. I thought for sure that'd be coming.

27-3, and Vazquez hits a 3-run dinger? That's just bush.
If the Orioles are upset then maybe they should be upset that they haven't got a group of pitchers that don't give up 24 runs in four innings. One of which hasn't pitched in the majors since 2003 before this year.
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Why would you be proud of this? If that were my team, I'd be embarrassed. Somewhere around being up by 20 in the 9th, you can stop swinging for the fences.

I'm not saying the Rangers should have stood there with the bat on their shoulders, because that may be showing up the Orioles more so than swinging. But there's no excuse for hitting a 3-run homer up by 24 runs in the 9th inning.

I'm actually more proud of the Orioles for not plunking the next batter up. I thought for sure that'd be coming.

27-3, and Vazquez hits a 3-run dinger? That's just bush.

So you're saying the Rangers should have intentionally made outs(?) In this day and age of 200+ million dollar contracts that's a little much to ask. Those guys are getting paid for the numbers they put up, whether the score is 4-3 or 27-3. I actually am a little surprised myself the O's didn't plunk that next batter. But that sort of thing isn't tolerated by the umps or commish's office anymore. So the O's pitchers were also worried about getting fined/suspended. It's all a little sad when you think about just how much money drives the game nowdays.
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Meh. I've seen those scores in Arena baseball all of the time.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:21 AM   #13
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Oh I am sorry, I thought it was the Orioles job to stop the Rangers from scoring, I didn't realize it was the Rangers job. Man I have been going about baseball all wrong, it should be the hitters that should try to keep themselves from scoring runs.
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So you're saying the Rangers should have intentionally made outs(?) In this day and age of 200+ million dollar contracts that's a little much to ask. Those guys are getting paid for the numbers they put up, whether the score is 4-3 or 27-3. I actually am a little surprised myself the O's didn't plunk that next batter. But that sort of thing isn't tolerated by the umps or commish's office anymore. So the O's pitchers were also worried about getting fined/suspended. It's all a little sad when you think about just how much money drives the game nowdays.
I never said the Rangers should've stopped scoring, I said the guy shouldn't have hit a home run. Though, if you've put up 27 on a team in the 9th inning and you're up by 24, then, yes, it might just be your job to stop scoring. If it's 10 to 3 or even 15 to 3, then it's the opposition's job to stop you from scoring. But once you've got 27 freaking runs, there's no need to swing for the fences.

For instance, if you look at the 9th inning scoring summary:
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- J. Botts doubled to deep right, I. Kinsler and T. Metcalf scored, M. Byrd to third
- D. Murphy singled to second, M. Byrd scored, J. Botts to third
- R. Vazquez homered to deep right, J. Botts and D. Murphy scored
Was it really necessary for Botts to double? How about just getting your hit and standing on first base? Why would you even think about going for 2 with a 23 run lead at that point?
Same for Vazquez. I said in my OP, don't stand there with the bat on your shoulder, but show a little respect for the pitcher and the game by not going deep with a 24 run lead.

That's roughly the equivalent of a 70 point lead in football. If you're up 73 to 3, should the quarterback go deep? That's just ridiculous.

I never said they should have intentionally made outs. In fact, I distinctly said they shouldn't just stand there with the bats on their shoulders. However, to me it shows a sever lack of respect for your competition to double with a 23 run lead and homer with a 24 run lead. If you make contact with the ball and it happens to fall in for a single, or even pepper the wall, that's fine. Trot down to first base and stand there. Just have a little respect for your opponent.

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Old 08-23-2007, 11:28 AM   #14
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I never said the Rangers should've stopped scoring, I said the guy shouldn't have hit a home run. Though, if you've put up 27 on a team in the 9th inning and you're up by 24, then, yes, it might just be your job to stop scoring. If it's 10 to 3 or even 15 to 3, then it's the opposition's job to stop you from scoring. But once you've got 27 freaking runs, there's no need to swing for the fences.

For instance, if you look at the 9th inning scoring summary:
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 Top 9th: Texas
- J. Botts doubled to deep right, I. Kinsler and T. Metcalf scored, M. Byrd to third
- D. Murphy singled to second, M. Byrd scored, J. Botts to third
- R. Vazquez homered to deep right, J. Botts and D. Murphy scored
Was it really necessary for Botts to double? How about just getting your hit and standing on first base? Why would you even think about going for 2 with a 23 run lead at that point?
Same for Vazquez. I said in my OP, don't stand there with the bat on your shoulder, but show a little respect for the pitcher and the game by not going deep with a 24 run lead.

That's roughly the equivalent of a 70 point lead in football. If you're up 73 to 3, should the quarterback go deep? That's just ridiculous.

I never said they should have intentionally made outs. In fact, I distinctly said they shouldn't just stand there with the bats on their shoulders. However, to me it shows a sever lack of respect for your competition to double with a 23 run lead and homer with a 24 run lead. If you make contact with the ball and it happens to fall in for a single, or even pepper the wall, that's fine. Trot down to first base and stand there. Just have a little respect for your opponent.

EDIT: I do have to say though, jaxmagician, you easily have the best avatar I've ever seen. And it's not even close.
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And to continue on to what I was saying, as a fan I want my team to play hard from start to finish. That means they play hard whether they are up 27 or down 27. What if the Orioles came out and would have just let ever ball come across as a strike, because hey they are down 27. I think you play hard from start to finish no matter the score. That is the way it should be.
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Old 08-23-2007, 11:32 AM   #15
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I think it would have been just as embarrassing to the Orioles if Botts stopped at first on an obvious stand-up double. Stealing a base, stretching a hit, arguing a strike call or dropping a bunt would have been bush league but swinging at the pitches is what they are expected to do.
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What if the Orioles came out and would have just let ever ball come across as a strike, because hey they are down 27.
Seems as though that's almost what they did (though, obviously, that's not something I'd be in favor of):

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I never said the Rangers should've stopped scoring, I said the guy shouldn't have hit a home run.
You make it sound like hitting a home run is easy. That's clearly why there are a dozen hit in every game.

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May I ask if you saw the game? How do you know that the hit wouldn't have been a triple under normal circumstances? Maybe Kinsler and Metcalf should have both stopped on third base.
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What a silly idea. Stop scoring runs. If you don't want to get dingers hit off you, make a good pitch. Most of the guys up there don't have a single vs. double swing, etc. The pitch comes in, you hit it. If the O's would've plunked somebody, it would have been a bigger show of classlessness (what a word). They didn't steal, they didn't bunt guys over, they did what they get paid to do, swing hard at meatballs. I don't think the O's were tossing BP in the thought that the Rangers would ground out intentionally.
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Seems as though that's almost what they did (though, obviously, that's not something I'd be in favor of):

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- R. Hernandez struck out swinging
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- B. Roberts grounded out to shortstop
And yet oddly enough the Rangers struck out 11 times to four.
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That's roughly the equivalent of a 70 point lead in football. If you're up 73 to 3, should the quarterback go deep? That's just ridiculous.
If that is what the defense is giving you yes. Your job as a offensive player is to do the best you can everytime you come up, and take advantage of the defence that is in front of you. If they are having a bad night or you just overmatch them, why should you do thier job for them. Are they going to send you thier pay since you did thier job as well as your own. What if becuse you limited yourself here you lose out on an insentive bonus for not getting enough doubles or triples becuse you stoped on first. To me you go all out regardless of who is on the field.
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