Teixeira bidding heating up - Page 3

Prodigal Son · 07-30-2007, 03:03 PM

Especially considering the Braves production at 1B was absolutely horrendous--as in, the worst 1B production I've ever seen from any team--and now will be well above-average. This is a huge upgrade.

Jason Moyer · 07-30-2007, 03:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Steve Kuffrey

Well, the likely reason for that is that Howard can only play one position in the field and at bat, as can other players.......it's still a team effort.

I agree, I just don't see the Braves improving in one area, particularly improving to the level of what Teixeira has done in his career, shifting the balance of power in the division. It's a trade they need to make, but they have many more problems in need of fixing before they become a powerhouse again.

Prodigal Son · 07-30-2007, 03:17 PM

The Braves also received a quality bullpen lefty in Ron Mahay. So there go two of the top three holes, with only a solid #3 SP being left as a gaping hole.

darkhorse · 07-30-2007, 03:21 PM

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2954457

"Teixeira and left-handed reliever Ron Mahay from Texas for catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia, minor league shortstop Elvis Andrus and two minor league pitchers.

Baseball America rates Saltalamacchia and Andrus as the Braves' top two prospects in their organization.

The Fort-Worth Star Telegram, citing a Rangers source, is reporting that the two pitchers Texas will receive are 19-year-old right-hander Nestali Feliz and another pitcher to be determined.

The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that the other pitcher involved in the trade is left-handed pitching prospect Matt Harrison, ranked by Baseball America as the third-best prospect in the Braves' organization."

Seems like a decent haul for the future HOF first baseman. Feliz has put up some good numbers in rookie ball. Have no idea what the scouts think of him. Harrison is much higher rated than what his numbers would indicate.

Having three quality young catchers in the system---Saltalamacchia, Taylor Teagarden, and Max Ramirez---along with teenage SS Elvis Andrus is exciting stuff. Especially, if Andrus shows a lot of progress at the plate.

Teixeira is almost as good in the field as he is at the plate. Braves fans are gonna grow to love Mark, especially if Atlanta gets the re-sign done quickly.

PotatoPeeler · 07-30-2007, 03:23 PM

Looks as those the Braves are the front runners for Dotel as well.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7074020

darkhorse · 07-30-2007, 03:25 PM

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Originally Posted by PotatoPeeler

Looks as those the Braves are the front runners for Dotel as well.
http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7074020

Do tell?

PotatoPeeler · 07-30-2007, 03:32 PM

Dotel as well. That's got a nice ring to it.

Prodigal Son · 07-30-2007, 03:37 PM

I would love to get Dotel. How long would we be able to keep him?

ctorg · 07-30-2007, 04:07 PM

As a Mets fan, this deal makes me worried. I think it's going to be quite a race to the end of the season.

PotatoPeeler · 07-30-2007, 05:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Prodigal Son

I would love to get Dotel. How long would we be able to keep him?

From what I understand this is the last year of his contract (which happens to be the only year of the contract) but I believe there is a $5.5 million team option for next year.

PotatoPeeler · 07-30-2007, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by PotatoPeeler

From what I understand this is the last year of his contract (which happens to be the only year of the contract) but I believe there is a $5.5 million team option for next year.

Scratch that. It's a mutual option. So either he or the team can decline the option at the end of the season, which would make him a free agent.

Prodigal Son · 07-30-2007, 05:46 PM

And if not, the Braves would have to pay almost six mil for a setup man. Sounds like a lose-lose.

rudel.dietrich · 07-30-2007, 09:27 PM

Terrible deal
Giving up your two best prospects for a 1.3 year rental

Tomorrow at work I will compare the expected wins of the Braves 1B production to what Tex would bring if he had played in Atlanta up to this point
I will be extremly suprised if the win difference will have the Braves in first place

Sdpm100 · 07-31-2007, 02:53 AM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Terrible deal
Giving up your two best prospects for a 1.3 year rental

I know they're hardly the best polling station, but from reading article responses it seems a lot of Braves fans think he's some messiah, and they're now going to win the World Series.
If that is their true belief, then I think they're going to be disappointed.

darkhorse · 07-31-2007, 10:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Terrible deal
Giving up your two best prospects for a 1.3 year rental

This assumes that the Braves won't resign Teixeira.

Has MLB done away with FA compensation? If not, Atlanta would receive a first rounder or two for a player of Teixeira's quality.

I'd forgotten that Teixeira played his college ball at Georgia Tech.

Prodigal Son · 07-31-2007, 10:39 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

I'd forgotten that Teixeira played his college ball at Georgia Tech.

That's the only thing that gives me hope that Teix might consider a long-term deal at a non-Boras rate. Well that and the Braves' track record of winning that might be lucrative coming from the Rangers.

I'm not holding my breath that he signs, but there is a glimmer of hope.

rudel.dietrich · 07-31-2007, 09:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I know they're hardly the best polling station, but from reading article responses it seems a lot of Braves fans think he's some messiah, and they're now going to win the World Series.
If that is their true belief, then I think they're going to be disappointed.

98% of fans dont pay a bit of attention to the minor leagues
Baseball America is getting better and better at their system rankings and the Braves trade 4 of their top 15 players in their minor league system

For some reason the Braves have entered this weird 'win now' stage which is odd considering they are a average team at best

And he will not sign an extension
I put chances at less than 5% The Braves do not give out big money contracts and Tex will be asking for alot of money

darkhorse · 08-01-2007, 12:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

And he will not sign an extension
I put chances at less than 5% The Braves do not give out big money contracts and Tex will be asking for alot of money

I remember someone saying that Francoeur would never be an effective big league right fielder again.

Absolutes will bite you in the ass.

PotatoPeeler · 08-01-2007, 02:24 PM

Yeah. Contrary to popular belief, Scott Boras does not control everything a player can do when it comes to a contract. *cough* *cough* Andruw Jones *cough*

rudel.dietrich · 08-01-2007, 07:41 PM

Reports are today that Tex passed up 140 million 8 year deal to stay in Texas

I have to put chances below 1% now

07-30-2007, 03:21 PM	#44
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2954457 "Teixeira and left-handed reliever Ron Mahay from Texas for catcher Jarrod Saltalamacchia, minor league shortstop Elvis Andrus and two minor league pitchers. Baseball America rates Saltalamacchia and Andrus as the Braves' top two prospects in their organization. The Fort-Worth Star Telegram, citing a Rangers source, is reporting that the two pitchers Texas will receive are 19-year-old right-hander Nestali Feliz and another pitcher to be determined. The Atlanta Journal-Constitution reports that the other pitcher involved in the trade is left-handed pitching prospect Matt Harrison, ranked by Baseball America as the third-best prospect in the Braves' organization." Seems like a decent haul for the future HOF first baseman. Feliz has put up some good numbers in rookie ball. Have no idea what the scouts think of him. Harrison is much higher rated than what his numbers would indicate. Having three quality young catchers in the system---Saltalamacchia, Taylor Teagarden, and Max Ramirez---along with teenage SS Elvis Andrus is exciting stuff. Especially, if Andrus shows a lot of progress at the plate. Teixeira is almost as good in the field as he is at the plate. Braves fans are gonna grow to love Mark, especially if Atlanta gets the re-sign done quickly. __________________ "The Human Torch was denied a bank loan." Last edited by darkhorse; 07-30-2007 at 03:24 PM.

07-30-2007, 03:23 PM	#45
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	Looks as those the Braves are the front runners for Dotel as well. http://msn.foxsports.com/mlb/story/7074020 __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

07-30-2007, 03:32 PM	#47
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	Dotel as well. That's got a nice ring to it. __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

07-30-2007, 04:07 PM	#49
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08-01-2007, 02:24 PM	#59
PotatoPeeler Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Rapid City, SD Posts: 3,639	Yeah. Contrary to popular belief, Scott Boras does not control everything a player can do when it comes to a contract. cough cough Andruw Jones cough __________________ 培傑西 I have never taken a lesson on how to talk on TV in my life. - Tim McCarver Guns have only two enemies; rust and liberals. The world is a comedy to those that think; a tragedy to those that feel.

07-30-2007, 03:03 PM	#41
Prodigal Son All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iahiodo a.k.a. the flyover Posts: 1,635	Especially considering the Braves production at 1B was absolutely horrendous--as in, the worst 1B production I've ever seen from any team--and now will be well above-average. This is a huge upgrade.

07-30-2007, 03:17 PM	#43
Prodigal Son All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iahiodo a.k.a. the flyover Posts: 1,635	The Braves also received a quality bullpen lefty in Ron Mahay. So there go two of the top three holes, with only a solid #3 SP being left as a gaping hole.

07-30-2007, 03:37 PM	#48
Prodigal Son All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iahiodo a.k.a. the flyover Posts: 1,635	I would love to get Dotel. How long would we be able to keep him?

07-30-2007, 05:46 PM	#52
Prodigal Son All Star Starter Join Date: May 2006 Location: Iahiodo a.k.a. the flyover Posts: 1,635	And if not, the Braves would have to pay almost six mil for a setup man. Sounds like a lose-lose.

07-30-2007, 09:27 PM	#53
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Terrible deal Giving up your two best prospects for a 1.3 year rental Tomorrow at work I will compare the expected wins of the Braves 1B production to what Tex would bring if he had played in Atlanta up to this point I will be extremly suprised if the win difference will have the Braves in first place

08-01-2007, 07:41 PM	#60
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Reports are today that Tex passed up 140 million 8 year deal to stay in Texas I have to put chances below 1% now