Maximum Pitch Counts - Does It Matter?

Ksyrup · 03-09-2003, 02:29 PM

I think it's great that the game allows us to set individual maximum pitch limits. But my question is, does it matter? Does this effect the game in any way? Will higher pitch counts increase the likelihood of injury to younger pitchers?

I ask because while I think it's cool to be able to set this for each pitcher, if it's just for show, I'm not going to do it (why limit my stud 22-year old SP's pitch count if he's going to pitch just as well or as poor either way?). Also, there have been studies refuting the link between high pitch counts and injuries in real life, so I'm wondering whether it's really "life like," anyway.

Anyone?

kq76 · 03-09-2003, 03:25 PM

And if you really wanted to, you could probably find studies saying the exact opposite. But that goes for studies on anything.

As for pitch counts, I don't set them, I just let the computer run, but I doubt it will make much difference. I don't really believe in the logic, somedays I'm feeling good, some days bad, not many days are "average". I say let them pitch till they get tired or start getting shelled.

EDIT: I'd like to rephrase.. I'm lazy, so I don't make use of it. But should you? Yeah, maybe.

Steve Kuffrey · 03-09-2003, 03:38 PM

I think that they can make a difference in your pitchers effectiveness, by not letting him go too long. The logic is built into the game that a fatigued pitcher is more likely to be injured so from the game's perspective it can be useful.

Mrexbaseball · 03-09-2003, 03:59 PM

I use it for my veteran SPs that are like 38 yrs old. I usually limit their pitch counts so you dont have a 38 year old body out there throwing 120 pitches each game...that is cause for injury on an old man.

DHS23 · 03-09-2003, 04:09 PM

I can see the pitch counts being good in September. If you still want to get some work out your starters to tune up for the playoffs, but want to let the call-ups get some work (this all saying if you've already clinched the playoffs or about to), then setting the pitch count to something like 50 or so would work good.

Ksyrup · 03-09-2003, 06:04 PM

The main reaon I'm looking at this feature is that I've just taken over the 1980 San Diego Padres, an organization that is bereft of talent, future or current. That is, except for the starting pitching. I've got 5 guys 24 or younger who are 4 star or better prospects, all of them ready for the Bigs. The "veteran" of the group is last year's Rookie of the Year. If pitch counts matter for young players, then I'm going to put them all on 100-110 pitch maximums, and hope that the bullpen can hold the 1-0, 2-1 leads my offense will give me, if I'm lucky.

jor31 · 03-09-2003, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey
I think that they can make a difference in your pitchers effectiveness, by not letting him go too long. The logic is built into the game that a fatigued pitcher is more likely to be injured so from the game's perspective it can be useful.

so it is built into the engine, not just an add on thing like the warm up rule?

03-09-2003, 02:29 PM	#1
Ksyrup Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 413	Maximum Pitch Counts - Does It Matter? I think it's great that the game allows us to set individual maximum pitch limits. But my question is, does it matter? Does this effect the game in any way? Will higher pitch counts increase the likelihood of injury to younger pitchers? I ask because while I think it's cool to be able to set this for each pitcher, if it's just for show, I'm not going to do it (why limit my stud 22-year old SP's pitch count if he's going to pitch just as well or as poor either way?). Also, there have been studies refuting the link between high pitch counts and injuries in real life, so I'm wondering whether it's really "life like," anyway. Anyone?

03-09-2003, 03:25 PM	#2
kq76 Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 11,812	And if you really wanted to, you could probably find studies saying the exact opposite. But that goes for studies on anything. As for pitch counts, I don't set them, I just let the computer run, but I doubt it will make much difference. I don't really believe in the logic, somedays I'm feeling good, some days bad, not many days are "average". I say let them pitch till they get tired or start getting shelled. EDIT: I'd like to rephrase.. I'm lazy, so I don't make use of it. But should you? Yeah, maybe. __________________ My OOTP Wishlist \| My FAQ List OOTP Wiki \| Your Recommended Team Nicknames, By City (A Crowdsourced Project) Last edited by kq76; 03-09-2003 at 04:21 PM.

03-09-2003, 03:38 PM	#3
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	I think that they can make a difference in your pitchers effectiveness, by not letting him go too long. The logic is built into the game that a fatigued pitcher is more likely to be injured so from the game's perspective it can be useful. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

03-09-2003, 03:59 PM	#4
Mrexbaseball Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 471 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	I use it for my veteran SPs that are like 38 yrs old. I usually limit their pitch counts so you dont have a 38 year old body out there throwing 120 pitches each game...that is cause for injury on an old man.

03-09-2003, 04:09 PM	#5
DHS23 All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Modesto, CA Posts: 506	I can see the pitch counts being good in September. If you still want to get some work out your starters to tune up for the playoffs, but want to let the call-ups get some work (this all saying if you've already clinched the playoffs or about to), then setting the pitch count to something like 50 or so would work good.

03-09-2003, 06:04 PM	#6
Ksyrup Major Leagues Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 413	The main reaon I'm looking at this feature is that I've just taken over the 1980 San Diego Padres, an organization that is bereft of talent, future or current. That is, except for the starting pitching. I've got 5 guys 24 or younger who are 4 star or better prospects, all of them ready for the Bigs. The "veteran" of the group is last year's Rookie of the Year. If pitch counts matter for young players, then I'm going to put them all on 100-110 pitch maximums, and hope that the bullpen can hold the 1-0, 2-1 leads my offense will give me, if I'm lucky.