The European football thread - Page 400

zoraster · 11-20-2006, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

As long as the referee realises that this isn't a European game but a British game then you should be able to see how football is played, hard tackling and passion.

I seriously doubt you’ll see that sort of game regardless of the official. It is the last thing United will want in what is for them an all but meaningless match days ahead of a huge EPL game against Chelsea. The equation is simple for United; a draw at home to Benfica will put them through regardless of other results, and they will qualify tomorrow even with a defeat if Benfica and Copenhagen draw.

Celtic is a tough place to go and get a positive result in Europe, and a traditional battle of Britain inevitably results in lots of cards and a high injury risk. Why take the risk when they might well already have qualification secured? Why pick a fight they might not win when should they require the final point they have a home fixture against notoriously poor travellers in which to pick it up?

The only way I can see United taking part in a traditional British match is if they play the reserves. If the first team or fringe players are playing everyone will have one eye on Chelsea and I’d expect them to try and slow it right down and take the sting out the game, in all likelihood paying more attention to the clean sheet that will see them through. Celtic have to win so United can just keep a solid shape, invite Celtic onto them and hit them on the break.

ukhotstove · 11-21-2006, 04:52 AM

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Originally Posted by zoraster

I seriously doubt you’ll see that sort of game regardless of the official. It is the last thing United will want in what is for them an all but meaningless match days ahead of a huge EPL game against Chelsea. The equation is simple for United; a draw at home to Benfica will put them through regardless of other results, and they will qualify tomorrow even with a defeat if Benfica and Copenhagen draw.

Celtic is a tough place to go and get a positive result in Europe, and a traditional battle of Britain inevitably results in lots of cards and a high injury risk. Why take the risk when they might well already have qualification secured? Why pick a fight they might not win when should they require the final point they have a home fixture against notoriously poor travellers in which to pick it up?

The only way I can see United taking part in a traditional British match is if they play the reserves. If the first team or fringe players are playing everyone will have one eye on Chelsea and I’d expect them to try and slow it right down and take the sting out the game, in all likelihood paying more attention to the clean sheet that will see them through. Celtic have to win so United can just keep a solid shape, invite Celtic onto them and hit them on the break.

Are you kidding me Ferguson will have them fired up don't you worry, ex Rangers player will not want the Old Firm enemy putting one over on him plus 60,000 Celtic fans screaming for blood wont let this game just drift away into nothing.

Celtic will go for the win the Celtic faithfull wont give them any choice but even the worst case tonight is they lose and can still go through, Benfica beat Copenhagen puts them on 7pts above Celtic on 6pts then United beat Benfica which leaves them on 7pts and Celtic beat Copenhagen which puts them on 9pts, depending on how UEFA decides on a tie a draw against Copenhagen could be enough.

ukhotstove · 11-21-2006, 04:54 AM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I'm surprised no-one has commented on the above, but I guess it's another thing of mine that doesn't interest anyone. So I will mention it for the last time with this.
It's sad that Rosso won't be promoted this season - especially as it is possible this could be their only chance. It seems a lot of clubs that have ambitions of reaching the J. League overstretch themselves to try and get that dream, and when they fail fall from grace or go bankrupt. Whilst I don't know whether that is the case with them, their late season fall has the hallmarks of it. But I hope I'm wrong.

Read it but dunno, never having watched the J League nor read about it as no coverage on it over here unless you count the frenzy that was Toe Injury, I can't really comment about it.

bababui · 11-21-2006, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by ukhotstove

Are you kidding me Ferguson will have them fired up don't you worry, ex Rangers player will not want the Old Firm enemy putting one over on him plus 60,000 Celtic fans screaming for blood wont let this game just drift away into nothing.

Celtic will go for the win the Celtic faithfull wont give them any choice but even the worst case tonight is they lose and can still go through, Benfica beat Copenhagen puts them on 7pts above Celtic on 6pts then United beat Benfica which leaves them on 7pts and Celtic beat Copenhagen which puts them on 9pts, depending on how UEFA decides on a tie a draw against Copenhagen could be enough.

Im afraid I have to go with Zoroaster on this one. Herguson is too smart and experienced to let his emotions dictate his thinking. Also, sadly, these arent the traditional rosters either. What does an England v Scotland match mean to a Portuguese or an African?

That being said, I would rather you be right for the sake of football.

ukhotstove · 11-21-2006, 01:18 PM

Honestly don't think 60,000 Celtic fans will allow it to become anything but a fired up game, Celtic players will go in full blooded that's certain also have to wait for the Man Utd team but if players like Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, Brown, Carrick, Fletcher, Smith, Rooney, O'Shea, Richardson play they all know what a British game is all about even Heinze and Vidic (who impresses me) can't play low key, only player who wont be fired up until he gets his first kicking of the game will be Ronaldo.

magnet · 11-21-2006, 02:55 PM

So I'm watching Blackburn v Tottenham on FSN right now. How old is this game? It is 1-0 Blackburn at halftime.

Sdpm100 · 11-21-2006, 02:57 PM

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So I'm watching Blackburn v Tottenham on FSN right now. How old is this game? It is 1-0 Blackburn at halftime.

Sunday. Gets interesting at the end as well. Hope I'm not spoiling it for you.

Sdpm100 · 11-21-2006, 03:00 PM

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I think it's the best advert this year by far.

bababui · 11-21-2006, 03:03 PM

Good commercial.

Sdpm100 · 11-21-2006, 03:08 PM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Good commercial.

They do a new advert as well. I think they are lovely.

magnet · 11-21-2006, 03:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Sunday. Gets interesting at the end as well. Hope I'm not spoiling it for you.

I just saw the overturned goal. I'm enjoying it, for sure!

Sdpm100 · 11-21-2006, 03:18 PM

Did anyone see the Italy/Turkey friendly last week?

Man, both the goals were LOL funny. Check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zn-elL2vS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derHP8uY9ks

magnet · 11-21-2006, 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by magnet

I just saw the overturned goal. I'm enjoying it, for sure!

We just got to that penalty taken at about 60'. What a good match!

magnet · 11-21-2006, 03:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

Did anyone see the Italy/Turkey friendly last week?

Man, both the goals were LOL funny. Check it out.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zn-elL2vS0
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derHP8uY9ks

holy mother of ROFFLE!

Sdpm100 · 11-21-2006, 03:34 PM

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holy mother of ROFFLE!

I love the goalie blasting it straight at the opponent.

bababui · 11-21-2006, 03:37 PM

I hope everyone is going to watch man U v celtic...

Sdpm100 · 11-21-2006, 03:41 PM

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Thats why they call Chicago 'The Windy City'

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You guys might have seen this, but this is ****ing sweet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsoWqNMFlNQ

How upset must that dude have been?

magnet · 11-21-2006, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

I love the goalie blasting it straight at the opponent.

There was a collection of goalie mistakes on a video somewhere (Weimer showed me the link) and one of them had the goalie gearing up for a long throw from the box. Somehow, the ball didn't release when he wanted it to and he threw it into his own goal.

bababui · 11-21-2006, 03:43 PM

SDPM..I should probably know better, but..are you going to watch the Celtic match? As a football fan wouldnt it be worthwhile to watch for the atmosphere alone?

magnet · 11-21-2006, 03:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Sdpm100

You guys might have seen this, but this is ****ing sweet.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsoWqNMFlNQ

How upset must that dude have been?

Oh man! That is classic!

Maybe there is a God, and maybe he DOES follow sports!

11-21-2006, 01:18 PM	#7985
ukhotstove Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2004 Location: North of England Gods Country Posts: 7,175	Honestly don't think 60,000 Celtic fans will allow it to become anything but a fired up game, Celtic players will go in full blooded that's certain also have to wait for the Man Utd team but if players like Neville, Giggs, Scholes, Ferdinand, Brown, Carrick, Fletcher, Smith, Rooney, O'Shea, Richardson play they all know what a British game is all about even Heinze and Vidic (who impresses me) can't play low key, only player who wont be fired up until he gets his first kicking of the game will be Ronaldo. __________________ Detroit Diesel Dynasty San Antonio Calzones of Laredo Dynasty

11-21-2006, 02:55 PM	#7986
magnet Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 5,029	So I'm watching Blackburn v Tottenham on FSN right now. How old is this game? It is 1-0 Blackburn at halftime.

11-21-2006, 03:18 PM	#7992
Sdpm100 Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2005 Location: Cheltenham, England Posts: 7,644	Did anyone see the Italy/Turkey friendly last week? Man, both the goals were LOL funny. Check it out. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3Zn-elL2vS0 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=derHP8uY9ks