2006-07 Mets Offseason Thread - Page 5

ctorg · 11-15-2006, 12:19 PM

I am hoping that these very conservative signings are a signal that the Mets will be going after multiple higher-value players for the rotation and maybe be willing to spend for LF.

ctorg · 11-20-2006, 07:25 AM

Mets reportedly close to signing Alou to a one-year deal. Alou is kind of similar to Floyd, but older and with less of an injury history. Hopefully Alou can continue to be a good player with the Mets.

GForce · 11-20-2006, 10:59 AM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

Mets reportedly close to signing Alou to a one-year deal. Alou is kind of similar to Floyd, but older and with less of an injury history. Hopefully Alou can continue to be a good player with the Mets.

Catalanotto for 3 years would've been a much better signing.

GH

ctorg · 11-20-2006, 11:09 AM

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Originally Posted by GForce

Catalanotto for 3 years would've been a much better signing.

GH

Yeah, I agree. Maybe the option wasn't there, though.

Melo · 11-20-2006, 11:16 AM

Catalonotto bats left. Mets want a righty bat for LF. Alou for 1 + option is OK. Alou for 2 guaranteed is not OK. The guy can still rake but Cleveland and another AL team are offering 2 years and I wouldn't want to match that.

GForce · 11-20-2006, 11:57 AM

Catlanotto is going back to Texas for 3 years at $13M. Catalanotto for $4.3M a year is a significantly better deal than an injured Alou for $8M-$9M, regardless of what side of the plate he hits from.

GH

DavidPuddy · 11-20-2006, 12:00 PM

Alou is just a stopgap...remember, during most of this past season it was assumed that Lastings Milledge would be the the 2007 LF...but that isn't going to pan out. Now Milledge is going to be trading for SP help, Alou will hold the fort down for a year, maybe two while either Gomez or Martinez becomes MLB ready....I like the signing...Alou for 100 games or so, especially against LHP, and Endy Chavez backing him up, I'll take that for a year....

toolboxnj · 11-20-2006, 05:22 PM

Yea, might be trading Milledge for SP now with the Alou signing. Good platoon in LF with Chavez.

GForce · 11-20-2006, 07:32 PM

What Platoon. You're not going to play Chavez vs Righties, Alou vs Lefties. Alou hits righties as well as lefties. This is not designed as a platoon. And if it is, somebody should be shot.

We need to settle down with the Endy Chavez love a bit, I think.

GH

Jestor · 11-20-2006, 07:47 PM

El Duque is also clutch in the postseason.

Signed,
A White Sox fan

toolboxnj · 11-20-2006, 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

What Platoon. You're not going to play Chavez vs Righties, Alou vs Lefties. Alou hits righties as well as lefties. This is not designed as a platoon. And if it is, somebody should be shot.

We need to settle down with the Endy Chavez love a bit, I think.

GH

Not platoon, but a 66/33 situation

Joshv02 · 11-21-2006, 09:07 AM

Alou is a nice pick-up - I just wouldn't want to shake his hand.

Melo · 11-21-2006, 09:28 AM

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Alou is a nice pick-up - I just wouldn't want to shake his hand.

or ask him to make you a sammidge.

ctorg · 11-29-2006, 09:15 AM

I have to say I'm not feeling so great about the Mets next year. Unless Minaya pulls off some really good wheeling and dealing between now and spring, I'm starting to think they had their chance this year and they will struggle next year. Pretty much a big question mark for the whole rotation, an aging team all around, a RF in serious decline, a 2B who probably won't do much, and now with Bradford looking like he's going to the Orioles, the bullpen is breaking up.

I just don't see the team being as good next year. I mean, the division is pretty bad, so they still have a shot, but so far I'm not feeling it for next season. I'm hopeful but not optimistic.

GForce · 12-01-2006, 07:49 PM

Glavine's back. 1 year, $10.5M.

Not to overstate, but I think they needed him back.

GH

ctorg · 12-04-2006, 06:48 AM

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Originally Posted by GForce

Glavine's back. 1 year, $10.5M.

Not to overstate, but I think they needed him back.

GH

Yeah, that leaves one less question mark. If they get Zito or someone along those lines, I'll be comfortable with the rotation.

GForce · 12-18-2006, 11:17 PM

Mets will be meeting with Zito tomorrow. We'll see where it leads.

GH

ctorg · 12-19-2006, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by GForce

Mets will be meeting with Zito tomorrow. We'll see where it leads.

GH

I suspect nowhere. I'm hoping the Mets stand firm and don't go over the top for Zito. The fact that he's the best of this FA crop doesn't make him as valuable as a top-notch first starter.

QuestGAV · 12-19-2006, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

I suspect nowhere. I'm hoping the Mets stand firm and don't go over the top for Zito. The fact that he's the best of this FA crop doesn't make him as valuable as a top-notch first starter.

Why skimp if you're the Mets though? Zito's not an ace in the traditional sense, but he's a heck of alot better than the other options. I'd rather pay big money to one guy you know is going to play well than half-assed money to two guys who are barely above replacement level when there are a number of arms like Perez in the Mets system who can pitch almost as well.

ctorg · 12-20-2006, 11:09 AM

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Why skimp if you're the Mets though? Zito's not an ace in the traditional sense, but he's a heck of alot better than the other options. I'd rather pay big money to one guy you know is going to play well than half-assed money to two guys who are barely above replacement level when there are a number of arms like Perez in the Mets system who can pitch almost as well.

I'd say opportunity cost. They do have a budget and they are approaching their spending limits, apparently. I wouldn't want to see them be unable to go after other opportunities in the future because of committing to this now. I won't exactly be heartbroken if they get Zito, because it will make them better now. I'm just concerned that it could hurt their ability to continue to get better in the future more than it helps them now.

11-15-2006, 12:19 PM	#81
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I am hoping that these very conservative signings are a signal that the Mets will be going after multiple higher-value players for the rotation and maybe be willing to spend for LF. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

11-20-2006, 07:25 AM	#82
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	Mets reportedly close to signing Alou to a one-year deal. Alou is kind of similar to Floyd, but older and with less of an injury history. Hopefully Alou can continue to be a good player with the Mets. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

11-20-2006, 12:00 PM	#87
DavidPuddy Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: NY Posts: 68	Alou is just a stopgap...remember, during most of this past season it was assumed that Lastings Milledge would be the the 2007 LF...but that isn't going to pan out. Now Milledge is going to be trading for SP help, Alou will hold the fort down for a year, maybe two while either Gomez or Martinez becomes MLB ready....I like the signing...Alou for 100 games or so, especially against LHP, and Endy Chavez backing him up, I'll take that for a year.... __________________ "Feels Like An Arby's Night" "Yeah, that's right."

11-20-2006, 05:22 PM	#88
toolboxnj Minors (Double A) Join Date: Feb 2005 Posts: 192	Yea, might be trading Milledge for SP now with the Alou signing. Good platoon in LF with Chavez. __________________ Rutgers Business School - Class of 2007 - Go Rutgers!

11-21-2006, 09:07 AM	#92
Joshv02 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: , " Posts: 3,082	Alou is a nice pick-up - I just wouldn't want to shake his hand. __________________ Brookline Maccabees. RIP

11-20-2006, 11:16 AM	#85
Melo All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the baned reside Posts: 1,428	Catalonotto bats left. Mets want a righty bat for LF. Alou for 1 + option is OK. Alou for 2 guaranteed is not OK. The guy can still rake but Cleveland and another AL team are offering 2 years and I wouldn't want to match that.

11-20-2006, 11:57 AM	#86
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Catlanotto is going back to Texas for 3 years at $13M. Catalanotto for $4.3M a year is a significantly better deal than an injured Alou for $8M-$9M, regardless of what side of the plate he hits from. GH

11-20-2006, 07:32 PM	#89
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	What Platoon. You're not going to play Chavez vs Righties, Alou vs Lefties. Alou hits righties as well as lefties. This is not designed as a platoon. And if it is, somebody should be shot. We need to settle down with the Endy Chavez love a bit, I think. GH

11-29-2006, 09:15 AM	#94
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I have to say I'm not feeling so great about the Mets next year. Unless Minaya pulls off some really good wheeling and dealing between now and spring, I'm starting to think they had their chance this year and they will struggle next year. Pretty much a big question mark for the whole rotation, an aging team all around, a RF in serious decline, a 2B who probably won't do much, and now with Bradford looking like he's going to the Orioles, the bullpen is breaking up. I just don't see the team being as good next year. I mean, the division is pretty bad, so they still have a shot, but so far I'm not feeling it for next season. I'm hopeful but not optimistic. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

12-01-2006, 07:49 PM	#95
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Glavine's back. 1 year, $10.5M. Not to overstate, but I think they needed him back. GH

12-18-2006, 11:17 PM	#97
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Mets will be meeting with Zito tomorrow. We'll see where it leads. GH