2006-07 Mets Offseason Thread

ctorg · 10-20-2006, 12:02 AM

Well, I might as well get this one started.

So what do the Mets do now?

darkhorse · 10-20-2006, 12:09 AM

Win one more game next go round.

ctorg · 10-20-2006, 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

Win one more game next go round.

Yeah, that would be a good idea, wouldn't it? Maybe five more would be even better.

bababui · 10-20-2006, 12:12 AM

Make sure Pedro is healthy. And ask what went wrong with Wright post July 29th. Otherwise all should be good in Queens.

darkhorse · 10-20-2006, 12:19 AM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

Yeah, that would be a good idea, wouldn't it? Maybe five more would be even better.

Yep, that works too.

darkhorse · 10-20-2006, 12:20 AM

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Originally Posted by bababui

Make sure Pedro is healthy.

He better be. I want to see Pedro pitch for another decade, meself.

Y0DA55 · 10-20-2006, 03:04 AM

Find a way to keep their pitchers healthy

ctorg · 10-20-2006, 06:49 AM

I am concerned about Wright's lack of production down the stretch. Did he just tire out or something? Did he injure himself? Did he use up all his power in the homerun derby? What happened?

I'm thinking that the Mets will move quickly to resign Glavine, get a top notch starter like Zito, and somehow upgrade at 2B. Milledge's rep has taken a hit and he didn't perform particularly well, so he might not be as good trade bait as he was. Will the Mets keep him? Let him start in left? Get another outfielder?

LeiterFanatic · 10-20-2006, 11:42 AM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

I am concerned about Wright's lack of production down the stretch. Did he just tire out or something? Did he injure himself? Did he use up all his power in the homerun derby? What happened?

I'm thinking that the Mets will move quickly to resign Glavine, get a top notch starter like Zito, and somehow upgrade at 2B. Milledge's rep has taken a hit and he didn't perform particularly well, so he might not be as good trade bait as he was. Will the Mets keep him? Let him start in left? Get another outfielder?

I was under the impression that Glavine had a handshake deal with Atlanta to finish his career there. I think the Mets should go after Dontrelle Willis. I think the Marlins would like Milledge and would move for him.

This is from MLBTradeRumors.com
I spoke to my Mets source recently, so here's the latest buzz around the team.

As has been reported in several places, Tom Glavine plans on returning to the Braves. I'm told a "handshake agreement" is in place. If the playoff excitement can't change his mind, the Mets will take a look at Barry Zito and Mark Mulder. Orlando Hernandez may be re-signed and of course Steve Trachsel is a goner. Beyond that, the Mets have many in-house starting pitching options.

The Mets still like outfielder Lastings Milledge even with the problems he's had in the clubhouse. The only way he'd be dealt is if Dontrelle Willis comes in return. Should Willis become available, the Mets will be all over it. If Milledge is traded to Florida, to team is high on David Dellucci for left field. Alfonso Soriano is not on the radar.

My source also tells me that there is a lot of consideration for Aaron Heilman to return to starting for 2007. They hope to re-sign Guillermo Mota but expect Darren Oliver to command too much money.

The Mets will probably pursue a trade for second base, as Valentin is not expected back. In-house options Ruben Gotay and Anderson Hernandez do not impress. Interest in Julio Lugo is minimal.

The team will take the payroll to the $105MM range. If Glavine leaves that could mean $20MM to play with.

CONN CHRIS · 10-20-2006, 11:49 AM

I have to admit that I have paid little attention to the Mets over the years, so I had not paid much attention to this series either.

I am so glad that I watched last night though; that catch Endy made will be with me to my dying day. Wow!

LeiterFanatic · 10-20-2006, 11:54 AM

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Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

That catch Endy made will be with me to my dying day. Wow!

twas pretty....

ctorg · 10-20-2006, 11:59 AM

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Originally Posted by LeiterFanatic

I was under the impression that Glavine had a handshake deal with Atlanta to finish his career there. I think the Mets should go after Dontrelle Willis. I think the Marlins would like Milledge and would move for him.

This is from MLBTradeRumors.com
I spoke to my Mets source recently, so here's the latest buzz around the team.

As has been reported in several places, Tom Glavine plans on returning to the Braves. I'm told a "handshake agreement" is in place. If the playoff excitement can't change his mind, the Mets will take a look at Barry Zito and Mark Mulder. Orlando Hernandez may be re-signed and of course Steve Trachsel is a goner. Beyond that, the Mets have many in-house starting pitching options.

The Mets still like outfielder Lastings Milledge even with the problems he's had in the clubhouse. The only way he'd be dealt is if Dontrelle Willis comes in return. Should Willis become available, the Mets will be all over it. If Milledge is traded to Florida, to team is high on David Dellucci for left field. Alfonso Soriano is not on the radar.

My source also tells me that there is a lot of consideration for Aaron Heilman to return to starting for 2007. They hope to re-sign Guillermo Mota but expect Darren Oliver to command too much money.

The Mets will probably pursue a trade for second base, as Valentin is not expected back. In-house options Ruben Gotay and Anderson Hernandez do not impress. Interest in Julio Lugo is minimal.

The team will take the payroll to the $105MM range. If Glavine leaves that could mean $20MM to play with.

That's fine. Glavine was good this year, but it's going to be over for him sooner or later, probably more like sooner. If the Mets could pull off Milledge for Willis, I think it would be incredible. I am doubtful that Florida would go for something like that, but who knows? I think Zito must be at least somewhat in their sights. I don't know what they're going to do about second base. Bring back Edgardo Alfonzo! (not)

GForce · 10-20-2006, 05:54 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

I am concerned about Wright's lack of production down the stretch. Did he just tire out or something? Did he injure himself? Did he use up all his power in the homerun derby? What happened?

I think Wright has to be told he can't be everything to everyone. Every Mets promotional thing, he goes to. Every fan thing, he's there. Any appearance he's asked to make, he makes. He's a good kid by every account, and multiple people have said he wants to be everything for everyone because he's so appreciative of where he's at....that's great, that's noble, etc. He's turning into the prince of this city, and everyone wants a piece of him. He has to learn to say no. I think the runaround contributed to his wearing down.

GH

GForce · 10-20-2006, 08:20 PM

Mets free agents:

Edgardo Alfonzo - Would like to keep in the organization just because he's one of my faves. Wouldn't be shocked to see him retire and take a job with the Mets in some fashion.

Chad Bradford - I really like this guy and hope to see him back.

Jacob Cruz - Who cares
Mike DiFelice - Ditto

Cliff Floyd - I like Cliff, I really do. But unless he's willing to take a VERY incentive-laden deal, there's just no way you can justify bringing him back.

Tom Glavine - I certainly don't pay him the $14M team option, and can't see him taking a $7M player option to stay here. I'd pay that $7M for him, but I wouldn't go much beyond that. Mets are in a bind though with Pedro out. Glavine money could go toward Zito, which I'd be fine with.

Orlando Hernandez - Omar will try and bring him back if he's reasonable.

Roberto Hernandez - Gone. If he doesn't retire he'll pitch somewhere else. Mets don't need him.

Ricky Ledee - Gone
Jose Lima - Gone
Eli Marrero - Gone

Guillermo Mota - Willie loves this guy. My guess is he's back, though I don't know if they'll spend money to keep him and Bradford. I'd keep Bradford if a decision needs to be made there. A lot depends on what happens with Heilman (who I'm inclined to think will go in a trade.) Remember, Duaner Sanchez comes back as well. How many righty relievers do you need?

Darren Oliver - Great job this year. Randolph loves him. I think he'll be given every chance to come back.

Kelly Stinnett - gone

Steve Trachsel - Please, for the love of God, gone. Gutless friggin' wonder.

Michael Tucker - Nice effort while he was here, but he won't be back.

Jose Valentin - Will return on the bench, unless he thinks he showed enough to start elsewhere. If he does, good luck, but he will not go into '07 as the Mets 2B. Not a chance.

Chris Woodward - I'm betting he's gone.

GH

GForce · 10-20-2006, 08:24 PM

LF next year for the Mets, the guy I want...Frank Catalanotto.

Long Island native, doubles power, good OBP, good outfielder.

GH

ctorg · 10-20-2006, 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

LF next year for the Mets, the guy I want...Frank Catalanotto.

Long Island native, doubles power, good OBP, good outfielder.

GH

Yeah, he'd be a sweet pickup. Him, a competent 2B, and a starting pitcher or two, and some nice cheap-but-good guys for the bench, and the Mets will be in better shape next year than they were this year. It is asking a lot, but hopefully they can pull it off.

GForce · 10-20-2006, 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by ctorg

Yeah, he'd be a sweet pickup. Him, a competent 2B, and a starting pitcher or two, and some nice cheap-but-good guys for the bench, and the Mets will be in better shape next year than they were this year. It is asking a lot, but hopefully they can pull it off.

Well I don't want to get crazy spending on free agents. I don't want to do things that way, just personal taste. Buy a big-ticket pitcher, get a solid guy like Catalanotto. I think you're only mid-ticket guy at 2B worth approaching is Mark Loretta. (Both Cat and Loretta will fetch $3M-$4M per)

Let Milledge and Heilman be your main trade chips, preferably for a starter.

With Pedro out, and me assuming Glavine is off to Atlanta...I'm not going to assume the trade for a starter goes through, so we'll assume the Mets get Zito.

Opening Day rotation:

Zito
El Duque
Maine
Perez
Pelfrey

That needs another arm.

GH

ctorg · 10-21-2006, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by GForce

Well I don't want to get crazy spending on free agents. I don't want to do things that way, just personal taste. Buy a big-ticket pitcher, get a solid guy like Catalanotto. I think you're only mid-ticket guy at 2B worth approaching is Mark Loretta. (Both Cat and Loretta will fetch $3M-$4M per)

Let Milledge and Heilman be your main trade chips, preferably for a starter.

With Pedro out, and me assuming Glavine is off to Atlanta...I'm not going to assume the trade for a starter goes through, so we'll assume the Mets get Zito.

Opening Day rotation:

Zito
El Duque
Maine
Perez
Pelfrey

That needs another arm.

GH

Oh, I didn't mean all FAs. Despite an occasional blunder (Zambrano), I think Minaya has shown that he's good at making trades. I haven't trusted a Mets GM as much since the 1980s. I am concerned that Milledge's stock has dropped. Heilman could get something good, and I think it's true that it will either be him or Mota with the team next year. They're probably the top two trade bait items. We'll see what we can get for them.

Mycroft · 10-21-2006, 01:00 PM

My understanding was that Zambrano was a Duquette acquisition, and not Minaya's.

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Minaya's big moves were:

-Signing Martinez and Wagner
-Sanchez for Seo
-Benson for Jorge Julio (who was traded for Duque) and John Maine
-Trades for LoDuca and Delgado
-Trading Xavier Nady for Oliver Perez and Roberto Hernandez (who has a contract for next year)

All of them (with the probable exception of Martinez, which I think was more of a marketing pickup), were pretty good move

-Pick ups of Endy Chavez, Oliver, Bradford and Valentin which were huge
-Picking up Shawn Green's contract
-Signing Julio Franco, which is questionable. . .

I agree with most of the stuff said here otherwise. I dunno about Zito or Willis, though.

thehatfield · 10-21-2006, 01:25 PM

The Zambrano trade was actually Steve Phillips & the end of Steve Phillips.

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Originally Posted by Mycroft

My understanding was that Zambrano was a Duquette acquisition, and not Minaya's.

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Minaya's big moves were:

-Signing Martinez and Wagner
-Sanchez for Seo
-Benson for Jorge Julio (who was traded for Duque) and John Maine
-Trades for LoDuca and Delgado
-Trading Xavier Nady for Oliver Perez and Roberto Hernandez (who has a contract for next year)

All of them (with the probable exception of Martinez, which I think was more of a marketing pickup), were pretty good move

-Pick ups of Endy Chavez, Oliver, Bradford and Valentin which were huge
-Picking up Shawn Green's contract
-Signing Julio Franco, which is questionable. . .

I agree with most of the stuff said here otherwise. I dunno about Zito or Willis, though.

10-20-2006, 12:02 AM	#1
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	2006-07 Mets Offseason Thread Well, I might as well get this one started. So what do the Mets do now? __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

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10-20-2006, 06:49 AM	#8
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	I am concerned about Wright's lack of production down the stretch. Did he just tire out or something? Did he injure himself? Did he use up all his power in the homerun derby? What happened? I'm thinking that the Mets will move quickly to resign Glavine, get a top notch starter like Zito, and somehow upgrade at 2B. Milledge's rep has taken a hit and he didn't perform particularly well, so he might not be as good trade bait as he was. Will the Mets keep him? Let him start in left? Get another outfielder? __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

10-20-2006, 11:49 AM	#10
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,066	I have to admit that I have paid little attention to the Mets over the years, so I had not paid much attention to this series either. I am so glad that I watched last night though; that catch Endy made will be with me to my dying day. Wow! __________________ Check Out My Cards!

10-21-2006, 01:00 PM	#19
Mycroft Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 193	My understanding was that Zambrano was a Duquette acquisition, and not Minaya's. ----------------------------------------------------------- Minaya's big moves were: -Signing Martinez and Wagner -Sanchez for Seo -Benson for Jorge Julio (who was traded for Duque) and John Maine -Trades for LoDuca and Delgado -Trading Xavier Nady for Oliver Perez and Roberto Hernandez (who has a contract for next year) All of them (with the probable exception of Martinez, which I think was more of a marketing pickup), were pretty good move -Pick ups of Endy Chavez, Oliver, Bradford and Valentin which were huge -Picking up Shawn Green's contract -Signing Julio Franco, which is questionable. . . I agree with most of the stuff said here otherwise. I dunno about Zito or Willis, though. __________________ I wouldn't give you David Wright for your whole team. [paraphrased from a statement to Brach Rickey, about Brooks Robinson]

10-20-2006, 12:09 AM	#2
darkhorse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: fort worth, tx Posts: 10,850	Win one more game next go round.

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bababui Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 14,147 Infractions: 0/1 (1)	Make sure Pedro is healthy. And ask what went wrong with Wright post July 29th. Otherwise all should be good in Queens.

10-20-2006, 08:20 PM	#14
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Mets free agents: Edgardo Alfonzo - Would like to keep in the organization just because he's one of my faves. Wouldn't be shocked to see him retire and take a job with the Mets in some fashion. Chad Bradford - I really like this guy and hope to see him back. Jacob Cruz - Who cares Mike DiFelice - Ditto Cliff Floyd - I like Cliff, I really do. But unless he's willing to take a VERY incentive-laden deal, there's just no way you can justify bringing him back. Tom Glavine - I certainly don't pay him the $14M team option, and can't see him taking a $7M player option to stay here. I'd pay that $7M for him, but I wouldn't go much beyond that. Mets are in a bind though with Pedro out. Glavine money could go toward Zito, which I'd be fine with. Orlando Hernandez - Omar will try and bring him back if he's reasonable. Roberto Hernandez - Gone. If he doesn't retire he'll pitch somewhere else. Mets don't need him. Ricky Ledee - Gone Jose Lima - Gone Eli Marrero - Gone Guillermo Mota - Willie loves this guy. My guess is he's back, though I don't know if they'll spend money to keep him and Bradford. I'd keep Bradford if a decision needs to be made there. A lot depends on what happens with Heilman (who I'm inclined to think will go in a trade.) Remember, Duaner Sanchez comes back as well. How many righty relievers do you need? Darren Oliver - Great job this year. Randolph loves him. I think he'll be given every chance to come back. Kelly Stinnett - gone Steve Trachsel - Please, for the love of God, gone. Gutless friggin' wonder. Michael Tucker - Nice effort while he was here, but he won't be back. Jose Valentin - Will return on the bench, unless he thinks he showed enough to start elsewhere. If he does, good luck, but he will not go into '07 as the Mets 2B. Not a chance. Chris Woodward - I'm betting he's gone. GH

10-20-2006, 08:24 PM	#15
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	LF next year for the Mets, the guy I want...Frank Catalanotto. Long Island native, doubles power, good OBP, good outfielder. GH