Univ of Miami football player killed

GForce · 11-07-2006, 10:20 PM

Defensive player Bryan Pata was shot and killed Tuesday, according to AP.

GH

magnet · 11-07-2006, 10:26 PM

breaking news at espn.com

rudel.dietrich · 11-07-2006, 10:31 PM

Sad but hardly suprising given the lifestyles that have come to light of the players at that univeristy

ihatenames · 11-07-2006, 10:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Sad but hardly suprising given the lifestyles that have come to light of the players at that univeristy

I feel bad to admit it, but the same thing came to my head when i first read it. It's always sad when someone is brutally murdered especially someone that young. Tragic. Miami needs to get it's act together.

Jason Moyer · 11-07-2006, 10:36 PM

Biting my tongue until more details are available.

rudel.dietrich · 11-07-2006, 10:49 PM

It very well could be a random act of violence or he was shot and killed by someone aiming for someone he was with.

But given the culture of drugs, violence, gang and thug life that surrounds that school you cant help but think the worse.

Raidergoo · 11-07-2006, 10:54 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Moyer

Biting my tongue until more details are available.

Exactly what I'm thinking. It's a never ending series of very ugly events from the U of M (FL).

I am sorry for the family and team.

Syd Thrift · 11-07-2006, 11:54 PM

I think there's a whale of a difference between getting into stupid on-field fights and getting shot and killed. I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude on this as well.

ihatenames · 11-07-2006, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I think there's a whale of a difference between getting into stupid on-field fights and getting shot and killed. I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude on this as well.

I'd agree with you, but it's got to the point recently where you can't help but wonder what's going on over there.

Jordan · 11-08-2006, 12:04 AM

What's going on over there is that the school is close to a bunch of crap neighborhoods. Nobody mentions that.

Bryan Pata was a guy who I believe was being looked at as a draft choice. It's pretty sad to here he was killed. My jaw dropped when I saw it on the crawler on ESPN.

Like everyone else has said though, I guess we have to wait and see. Not enough details

JDOldSchool · 11-08-2006, 12:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I think there's a whale of a difference between getting into stupid on-field fights and getting shot and killed. I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude on this as well.

I think what most people here are saying goes far past one on-field fight. The U has had a rather lengthy history of unsavory characters playing football. Like everyone else, I agree it's too quick to rush to judgment in this situation but it certainly went through my head, too.

Just out of curiosity, did Pata have a role in the fight?

marc · 11-08-2006, 03:32 AM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

I think there's a whale of a difference between getting into stupid on-field fights and getting shot and killed. I'm taking a "wait and see" attitude on this as well.

This isn't the first Miami player to get shot at in the last 6-8 months, I think that's why people are saying this stuff. I'll wait for further details before commenting.

Thoughts and prayers to his family.

Skipaway · 11-08-2006, 06:38 AM

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Originally Posted by Jordan

What's going on over there is that the school is close to a bunch of crap neighborhoods. Nobody mentions that.

Is where he got shot a bad neighborhood? It's a bit southwest from Dadeland Mall.

AnotherAlias · 11-08-2006, 08:42 AM

One way to beat/get even with rival teams from the same area is to shoot them. Anything can happen in this crazy World.

LeiterFanatic · 11-08-2006, 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Skipaway

Is where he got shot a bad neighborhood? It's a bit southwest from Dadeland Mall.

Nope, not a bad neighborhood at all....

Very odd the media clampdown on this case...Not par for the course here in Miami... makes one suspicious

thehatfield · 11-08-2006, 11:08 AM

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Originally Posted by AnotherAlias

One way to beat/get even with rival teams from the same area is to shoot them. Anything can happen in this crazy World.

No kidding - or even, what about that backup punter from Northern Colorado stabbing the starting punter from his own team in the leg?!!

AnotherAlias · 11-08-2006, 03:12 PM

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Originally Posted by LeiterFanatic

Nope, not a bad neighborhood at all....

Very odd the media clampdown on this case...Not par for the course here in Miami... makes one suspicious

Suspicious of what exactly? You mean the possibility that a rival team member did this?

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Originally Posted by Purple Cowboy

No kidding - or even, what about that backup punter from Northern Colorado stabbing the starting punter from his own team in the leg?!!

Wow! I didn't hear about that one.

Prodigal Son · 11-08-2006, 03:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

It very well could be a random act of violence or he was shot and killed by someone aiming for someone he was with.

But given the culture of drugs, violence, gang and thug life that surrounds that school you cant help but think the worse.

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I have to admit that when I saw this thread title, the first thing that came to mind wasn't an immediate sympathetic reaction but instead an angry musing of, "I bet a gun was involved." Anywhere else and I would guess a car crash or something. It's sad. My reaction is to blame the U. My first reaction is to say that it cultivates a certain culture there that makes this sort of thing all the more likely. And it's no big deal when it's a classless on-field celebration, showboating, or even a little fistfight. But when people start getting shot...and when this sort of thing goes from isolated incident to something worse...

I'm just really fed up with the U. And maybe that's fair and maybe that's not fair--and I'll admit to not knowing much about this case--but it's a first reaction that comes about because of the history of a University that has proven it cares about football wins more than good citizenship in the past and now, I fear, that philosophy may be manifesting itself in more tragic ways than a mere image problem. It all starts at the top.

I feel for the young man's friends and family.

LeiterFanatic · 11-08-2006, 03:31 PM

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Originally Posted by AnotherAlias

Suspicious of what exactly? You mean the possibility that a rival team member did this?

No, of course not... just that there was no information coming out of the scene...

KILLERBS24 · 11-08-2006, 04:01 PM

"Pata's death was the second incident involving guns this season for the Hurricanes.

In July, reserve safety Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks when confronted in his yard before an early morning workout. Cooper was not seriously injured. Brandon Meriweather, one of Cooper's teammates and roommates, returned fire at Cooper's assailant, taking three shots that apparently missed, police said.

Several Miami players, including Pata, said that incident was a robbery attempt, and cautioned other teammates to always be aware of their surroundings.

"We're targets because we play for the University of Miami. ... These guys, they know who we are," Miami linebacker Jon Beason said shortly after the Cooper shooting."

http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/...110806aad.html

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KILLERBS24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 938	"Pata's death was the second incident involving guns this season for the Hurricanes. In July, reserve safety Willie Cooper was shot in the buttocks when confronted in his yard before an early morning workout. Cooper was not seriously injured. Brandon Meriweather, one of Cooper's teammates and roommates, returned fire at Cooper's assailant, taking three shots that apparently missed, police said. Several Miami players, including Pata, said that incident was a robbery attempt, and cautioned other teammates to always be aware of their surroundings. "We're targets because we play for the University of Miami. ... These guys, they know who we are," Miami linebacker Jon Beason said shortly after the Cooper shooting." http://www.cstv.com/sports/m-footbl/...110806aad.html __________________ Asterisked legacy: Barry Bonds, the greatest steroid user ever

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11-07-2006, 10:49 PM	#6
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	It very well could be a random act of violence or he was shot and killed by someone aiming for someone he was with. But given the culture of drugs, violence, gang and thug life that surrounds that school you cant help but think the worse.

11-08-2006, 12:04 AM	#10
Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,991	What's going on over there is that the school is close to a bunch of crap neighborhoods. Nobody mentions that. Bryan Pata was a guy who I believe was being looked at as a draft choice. It's pretty sad to here he was killed. My jaw dropped when I saw it on the crawler on ESPN. Like everyone else has said though, I guess we have to wait and see. Not enough details

11-08-2006, 08:42 AM	#14
AnotherAlias Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: I'm back...for now Posts: 4,190	One way to beat/get even with rival teams from the same area is to shoot them. Anything can happen in this crazy World.