Oakland A's 2006-2007 Offseason Thread - Page 3

mikev · 10-16-2006, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by GForce

But Mike and the Mad Dog are idiots.

GH

I'll take your word for it. I've never heard of them, was just passing on what I'd heard.

GForce · 10-16-2006, 08:41 PM

Oh boy...occasionally, they do a real good interview. But their knowledge is nowhere near what they think it is.

Look up Mad Dog Russo on Wikipedia sometime...his Doggie-isms are quite funny, but give you an idea of what you're dealing with here.

GH

Dark Horse · 10-17-2006, 06:21 PM

They had Macha for four years as a bench coach, why didn't they know that this guy was a "poor communicator"?

And if he was a "poor communicator", why let him go and hire him back?

JDOldSchool · 10-17-2006, 09:28 PM

This article is absoultely hilarious.

The right man for the A's job: Dusty Baker

kq76 · 10-17-2006, 10:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Dark Horse

They had Macha for four years as a bench coach, why didn't they know that this guy was a "poor communicator"?

And if he was a "poor communicator", why let him go and hire him back?

That's what puzzled me last year. They obviously had issues with each other. Going back to that couldn't have been good for either. You can say, "well, they got to the ALCS", but how much better could they have done not only in the short term but long as well with better chemistry? It makes me think Beane really didn't think the guys that were available, presumably the same guys who are available now in the organization, were up to the task then. Has that really changed? Maybe he likes someone outside of it.

JDOldSchool · 10-18-2006, 03:26 AM

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Originally Posted by kq76

but how much better could they have done not only in the short term but long as well with better chemistry?

I still haven't seen chemistry win one game in any sport. The problem is that Macha is a bad field manager more than anything else. The other stuff is just icing on the cake.

Faroo6 · 11-06-2006, 04:09 AM

Man all the way to page three to find this thing. I don't like this at all.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2650982

Green & Gold Heart · 11-06-2006, 11:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Faroo6

Man all the way to page three to find this thing. I don't like this at all.

http://sports.espn.go.com/mlb/news/story?id=2650982

Yeah, I saw the report last night that it was likely. I'm sad.

But now I hope he turns out to be a sucky manager.

mikev · 11-06-2006, 01:02 PM

I'm more upset at losing his coaching ability. Chavez credits him with the GGs, he turned Hatteberg into a solid defensive 1B, Swisher into a possible GG-ability 1B, etc.

Second, I really hope this doesn't mean that Geren will be announced as the next Yes-Man for Beane.

Green & Gold Heart · 11-06-2006, 01:12 PM

Yeah, I really really hope not. If that happens, those guys will have to start the "Bob Geren is a Moron and I Hate Him" page.

Green & Gold Heart · 11-06-2006, 01:44 PM

I like this, from AthleticsNation: "The A's have yet to announce which dull white guy will sit in the corner of their dugout in 2007."

That's about right. That's what we're going to get. We wanted the energetic black guy.

mikev · 11-06-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

Yeah, I really really hope not. If that happens, those guys will have to start the "Bob Geren is a Moron and I Hate Him" page.

Only if he's Macha part 2, and proves to be such a moron.

Then we'll probably do something

JDOldSchool · 11-06-2006, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

I like this, from AthleticsNation: "The A's have yet to announce which dull white guy will sit in the corner of their dugout in 2007."

That's about right. That's what we're going to get. We wanted the energetic black guy.

I'll take the dull white guy if he doesn't do some of the stupid **** Beane hates.

I don't want a Beane yes-man; I want a manager who believes in the philosophy.

Green & Gold Heart · 11-06-2006, 06:38 PM

Looks like an A's move to Fremont and new stadium plans will be announced as early as next week:

http://www.kcbs.com/pages/121049.php...ntentId=236382

I for one am

. I don't get the "Keep the A's in Oakland!" stuff. Maybe it's because I don't live there so location doesn't matter to me. But it's a crappy city and the A's will do much better seperating themselves from that god awful location and Raider Nation.

mikev · 11-06-2006, 06:49 PM

I can't wait. Now I hate going to what used to be a great ballpark.

edog23 · 11-06-2006, 08:04 PM

If it takes a move to Fremont for the A's to play in a real ballpark, I'm all for it. As for a new manager, what are the A's management thinking? I thought Washington had the best shot at getting the job. Is Beane really that hard to work with? Well, there's really nothing out there left outside of Baker or Showalter. I don't any of them coming here so Geren might be the choice. Yikes.

Green & Gold Heart · 11-06-2006, 08:13 PM

The following have been interviewed:
Bob Geren
Ron Washington (taken

)
Trey Hillman
Bud Black (today)

The following have scheduled interviews:
Orel Hershiser
Jamie Quirk
Manny Acta

Specualted that an interview will be scheduled:
Don Wakamatsu

So I don't know why you'd say this:

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Well, there's really nothing out there left outside of Baker or Showalter.

Just because a guy hasn't managed before doesn't mean he isn't capable.

JDOldSchool · 11-06-2006, 08:18 PM

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Originally Posted by edog23

. Is Beane really that hard to work with?

Lots of baseball managers were taught a certain (mostly wrong) way to do things. Beane has a different way. Guys who are a part of that old baseball way are nearly impossible to convert to a new way of thinking. I don't think it's Beane that's hard to work with.

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Well, there's really nothing out there left outside of Baker or Showalter.

Ha! Dusty Baker as A's manager makes about as much sense as Jesse Jackson speaking at the next Klan rally.

And I just realized a sorta humorous connection with that analogy. Anybody remember the White Jays bull**** from a few years ago?

Y0DA55 · 11-06-2006, 11:27 PM

I've always been a big fan of Manny Acta. I remember when he started managing in the minors. He always did pretty well. I'm rooting for him to get a job this winter.

edog23 · 11-07-2006, 03:04 AM

I think I was talking on the wrong side of my mouth earlier when I dissed Baker and Beane. I don't want to rattle any cages but maybe Bud Black could get a nod. If not him, then by all means, bring Baker in to manage.

10-17-2006, 06:21 PM	#43
Dark Horse Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Texas! Posts: 2,633	They had Macha for four years as a bench coach, why didn't they know that this guy was a "poor communicator"? And if he was a "poor communicator", why let him go and hire him back? __________________ A Justafan Fan LBA Geo Bahn Rock Hounds fan of the ISLANDIAN PRO ALLIANCE

11-06-2006, 01:02 PM	#49
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	I'm more upset at losing his coaching ability. Chavez credits him with the GGs, he turned Hatteberg into a solid defensive 1B, Swisher into a possible GG-ability 1B, etc. Second, I really hope this doesn't mean that Geren will be announced as the next Yes-Man for Beane. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

11-06-2006, 06:49 PM	#55
mikev Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2004 Location: Bay Area, CA Posts: 4,014	I can't wait. Now I hate going to what used to be a great ballpark. __________________ Global Unified Baseball Association - Vice Commish and Oakland Oaks GM

11-06-2006, 11:27 PM	#59
Y0DA55 All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: In the middle of the Yankees/Red Sox Rivalry Posts: 1,771	I've always been a big fan of Manny Acta. I remember when he started managing in the minors. He always did pretty well. I'm rooting for him to get a job this winter. __________________ Do, or do not, there is no try!

10-16-2006, 08:41 PM	#42
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Oh boy...occasionally, they do a real good interview. But their knowledge is nowhere near what they think it is. Look up Mad Dog Russo on Wikipedia sometime...his Doggie-isms are quite funny, but give you an idea of what you're dealing with here. GH

10-17-2006, 09:28 PM	#44
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	This article is absoultely hilarious. The right man for the A's job: Dusty Baker

11-06-2006, 01:12 PM	#50
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Yeah, I really really hope not. If that happens, those guys will have to start the "Bob Geren is a Moron and I Hate Him" page.

11-06-2006, 01:44 PM	#51
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	I like this, from AthleticsNation: "The A's have yet to announce which dull white guy will sit in the corner of their dugout in 2007." That's about right. That's what we're going to get. We wanted the energetic black guy.

11-06-2006, 06:38 PM	#54
Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	Looks like an A's move to Fremont and new stadium plans will be announced as early as next week: http://www.kcbs.com/pages/121049.php...ntentId=236382 I for one am . I don't get the "Keep the A's in Oakland!" stuff. Maybe it's because I don't live there so location doesn't matter to me. But it's a crappy city and the A's will do much better seperating themselves from that god awful location and Raider Nation.

11-06-2006, 08:04 PM	#56
edog23 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Rosa, CA. Posts: 493	If it takes a move to Fremont for the A's to play in a real ballpark, I'm all for it. As for a new manager, what are the A's management thinking? I thought Washington had the best shot at getting the job. Is Beane really that hard to work with? Well, there's really nothing out there left outside of Baker or Showalter. I don't any of them coming here so Geren might be the choice. Yikes.

11-07-2006, 03:04 AM	#60
edog23 Major Leagues Join Date: Dec 2005 Location: Santa Rosa, CA. Posts: 493	I think I was talking on the wrong side of my mouth earlier when I dissed Baker and Beane. I don't want to rattle any cages but maybe Bud Black could get a nod. If not him, then by all means, bring Baker in to manage.