National League Rookie of the Year 2006 Poll

darkhorse · 10-07-2006, 03:02 PM

Dan Uggla

Hanley Ramirez

Ryan Zimmerman

Takashi Saito

Josh Barfield

Russell Martin

Josh Johnson

Prince Fielder

Clay Hensley

Matt Cain

Anibal Sanchez

Josh Willingham

Ronny Paulino

Scott Olsen

Chris Duncan

Erik W. · 10-07-2006, 03:05 PM

I went for the homer vote.

Raderick · 10-07-2006, 05:03 PM

No Cla Meredith?

darkhorse · 10-07-2006, 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Raderick

No Cla Meredith?

He'd have made the top 15 in the AL Rookie poll. No go in the deep class of NL rooks. Meredith is another ex-Red Sox who'd have added a few wins to the victory column in 2006.

dodgersfanatic · 10-08-2006, 01:54 PM

Andre Ethier probably shouldnt win but hes definitely top 15

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/stats/...layerID=444843

JDOldSchool · 10-08-2006, 01:57 PM

Can we just rename this the Rookie of the Marlins award?

dodgersfanatic · 10-08-2006, 01:58 PM

I vote for takashi saito he wasnt even on the MLB roster at the start of the season then all of the sudden 26 sv 2.07 ERA he wasnt even on the team for the full season.

JDOldSchool · 10-08-2006, 02:00 PM

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Originally Posted by dodgersfanatic

Andre Ethier probably shouldnt win but hes definitely top 15

http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/stats/...layerID=444843

Especially over someone like Paulino.

disposableheros · 10-08-2006, 02:01 PM

Ramirez and Zimmerman are pretty close, but i give i to Ramirez for playing SS

dougfireghost · 10-08-2006, 02:30 PM

What makes Zimmerman such an appealing choice over Ramirez or Uggla?

mlyons · 10-08-2006, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by dougfireghost

What makes Zimmerman such an appealing choice over Ramirez or Ulgga?

Defense. By all accounts, Zimmerman's a Gold Glover while Ramirez and Uggla are well below average.

dougfireghost · 10-08-2006, 05:28 PM

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Originally Posted by mlyons

Defense. By all accounts, Zimmerman's a Gold Glover while Ramirez and Uggla are well below average.

Which defensive metrics are you using? I don't see Uggla as that worse of a defensive player than Zimmerman. Either way though, I think the offensive value of Ramirez and Uggla more than makes up for their less than stellar defense.

mlyons · 10-08-2006, 06:01 PM

I'm not using any defensive metrics, just hearsay. That's why he's an appealing choice, not necessarily the correct choice.

I personally would pick Zimmerman, but it's basically a coin toss over Ramirez. Both had excellent seasons.

wbonnell · 10-08-2006, 11:11 PM

Luke Scott

theasfl · 10-09-2006, 02:05 AM

Hanley is my hero...up until the last month or so of the season 2 or 3 Marlins would have landed it over him, but now Id go with him. Hopefully all the Marlins dont steal votes from each other and give it to Zimmerman, though he certainly had a solid year.

dodgersfanatic · 10-10-2006, 11:26 PM

Omg I Forgot Luke Scott Got 72 Hits Just Hand The Award To Him Omg Im So Sorry Thanks For Saying Something

darkhorse · 10-11-2006, 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by wbonnell

Luke Scott

Another guy who'd have made the list in the AL or if he'd played a bit more.

darkhorse · 10-11-2006, 02:26 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

Especially over someone like Paulino.

I'd take the catcher who can hit a bit over the LF who can hit a little.

JDOldSchool · 10-11-2006, 02:38 PM

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Originally Posted by darkhorse

I'd take the catcher who can hit a bit over the LF who can hit a little.

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but I'd have to think Ethier's .287 EQA is better than Paulino's .265 even when compared to position.

darkhorse · 10-11-2006, 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

I'm gonna go out on a limb here, but I'd have to think Ethier's .287 EQA is better than Paulino's .265 even when compared to position.

By a smidge. I'm gonna go out on a limb and guess that Paulino's defensive value more than makes up the slight gap in offense.

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Position Totals
Pos    AB    H     XB    BB     SB    CS   EQR   BA    OBA   SA   EQA 
 P    5102   671   223   214     4     2   164 0.132 0.167 0.175 0.133
 C   17412  4663  2514  1610    76    52  2082 0.268 0.330 0.412 0.252
 1B  18357  5173  3705  2331   110    59  2770 0.282 0.363 0.484 0.279
 2B  18478  5101  2477  1695   351   141  2267 0.276 0.337 0.410 0.255
 3B  18302  5038  3297  2071   225   103  2537 0.275 0.349 0.455 0.268
 SS  18688  5127  2483  1634   536   191  2279 0.274 0.333 0.407 0.253
 LF  18930  5233  3417  2253   403   146  2693 0.276 0.353 0.457 0.271
 CF  18414  4956  2936  1905   632   210  2417 0.269 0.338 0.429 0.260
 RF  18365  5062  3312  2062   292   122  2550 0.276 0.349 0.456 0.269
 Oth 15288  4041  2827  1885   133    78  2090 0.264 0.345 0.449 0.265

10-07-2006, 03:02 PM	#1
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10-08-2006, 01:54 PM	#5
dodgersfanatic Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	Andre Ethier probably shouldnt win but hes definitely top 15 http://mlb.mlb.com/NASApp/mlb/stats/...layerID=444843 Last edited by dodgersfanatic; 10-08-2006 at 01:56 PM.

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View Poll Results: Best rook in the senior circuit?
Dan Uggla	12	19.05%
Hanley Ramirez	19	30.16%
Ryan Zimmerman	19	30.16%
Takashi Saito	1	1.59%
Josh Barfield	1	1.59%
Russell Martin	0	0%
Josh Johnson	1	1.59%
Prince Fielder	1	1.59%
Clay Hensley	0	0%
Matt Cain	5	7.94%
Anibal Sanchez	1	1.59%
Josh Willingham	0	0%
Ronny Paulino	1	1.59%
Scott Olsen	0	0%
Chris Duncan	2	3.17%
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10-08-2006, 01:57 PM	#6
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	Can we just rename this the Rookie of the Marlins award?

10-08-2006, 01:58 PM	#7
dodgersfanatic Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	I vote for takashi saito he wasnt even on the MLB roster at the start of the season then all of the sudden 26 sv 2.07 ERA he wasnt even on the team for the full season.

10-08-2006, 02:30 PM	#10
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10-08-2006, 06:01 PM	#13
mlyons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,725	I'm not using any defensive metrics, just hearsay. That's why he's an appealing choice, not necessarily the correct choice. I personally would pick Zimmerman, but it's basically a coin toss over Ramirez. Both had excellent seasons. __________________ Things can always be worse.

10-08-2006, 11:11 PM	#14
wbonnell Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 77	Luke Scott

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10-10-2006, 11:26 PM	#16
dodgersfanatic Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2006 Posts: 15	Omg I Forgot Luke Scott Got 72 Hits Just Hand The Award To Him Omg Im So Sorry Thanks For Saying Something