Scouting rookies

PSUColonel · 09-25-2006, 11:02 PM

How do you scout rookies for the upcoming draft?

Syd Thrift · 09-25-2006, 11:16 PM

The news section will tell you when the yearly draft pool is ready. Once it is, you just go to the Transactions section. There will now be a tab there for the pool. You can select a scout to take a look at it; it will take him 20 days to do so, so my advice is to get him out there the day it's released.

disposableheros · 09-25-2006, 11:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

The news section will tell you when the yearly draft pool is ready. Once it is, you just go to the Transactions section. There will now be a tab there for the pool. You can select a scout to take a look at it; it will take him 20 days to do so, so my advice is to get him out there the day it's released.

along with that...the draft pool is released a month before the draft date.

Syd Thrift · 09-25-2006, 11:32 PM

also if u see ne1 w/ the last name heinsohn draft them 1st b/c they will make the hof its a chet

SDtwin · 09-26-2006, 01:52 AM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

also if u see ne1 w/ the last name heinsohn draft them 1st b/c they will make the hof its a chet

That is so not true. Is it?

Twelvefield · 09-26-2006, 03:21 PM

I think it's best to send your Head Scout to look at the Draft Pool, as the Head Scout Suggestion button on the Draft screen goes by his reccomendations.

Syd Thrift · 09-26-2006, 04:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SDtwin

That is so not true. Is it?

ya totally but ne1 named marc duffy will sux so it balances out

Cooker · 09-26-2006, 05:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

also if u see ne1 w/ the last name heinsohn draft them 1st b/c they will make the hof its a chet

Whether or not it's true, I'd totally draft any player named Heinsohn even if he had lousy potential (at least in a later round) just for the fun of having someone named Heinsohn on my roster.

I'd also go into Commish mode and edit his first name to Markus....

Curtis · 09-28-2006, 08:20 PM

Back on topic, scout the draft with ALL of your ML scouts.. Each will give you twenty recommended players. I make a list of all the players mentioned, then give them a rating from '1' (mentioned by one scout) to '6' (mentioned by everybody. I don't care about the exact ranking each scout gives someone, just that they mention him at all.

When your turn to draft comes around, scratch everyone who's already been taken off your list. An easy way to do this is to shortlist everyone on your list, then go to your shortlist whenever your turn comes around and delete anyone who now has a team listed. If there are any sixes left, decide which of them you want most, draft him, then advance to the next round and repeat, dropping down through the fives, fours, etc.

The time I tried this, I didn't run out of list until round 29, and I was very happy with my picks. The only modification I made was that my list was way overcrowded with catchers, so after I'd drafted five of them, I just deleted all the rest. Your mileage may vary.

digi · 09-29-2006, 11:27 AM

I just find it odd that similarly rated scouts who have high very high scout potential ratings are so far off on their reports of people in the draft.

The head scout may say that Player X is top rated player w/ 80 potential and scout one calls him a complete scrub w/ 34 potential.

Isn't it a bit unrealistic? Or does scouting need a complete overhall?

Curtis · 09-29-2006, 11:34 AM

It's never happened with me. Differences of 8-10 points are common, and 12-15 occasional to rare, but I've never seen anything remotely approaching a 46 point difference.

Edit: At any rate, I figure that six heads are better than two, so the average of everyone's evaluations is more likely to be accurate than any one individual, no matter how good he is.

1998 Yankees · 09-29-2006, 11:47 AM

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Originally Posted by Curtis Cook

Back on topic, scout the draft with ALL of your ML scouts.. Each will give you twenty recommended players. I make a list of all the players mentioned, then give them a rating from '1' (mentioned by one scout) to '6' (mentioned by everybody. I don't care about the exact ranking each scout gives someone, just that they mention him at all.

When your turn to draft comes around, scratch everyone who's already been taken off your list. An easy way to do this is to shortlist everyone on your list, then go to your shortlist whenever your turn comes around and delete anyone who now has a team listed. If there are any sixes left, decide which of them you want most, draft him, then advance to the next round and repeat, dropping down through the fives, fours, etc.

The time I tried this, I didn't run out of list until round 29, and I was very happy with my picks. The only modification I made was that my list was way overcrowded with catchers, so after I'd drafted five of them, I just deleted all the rest. Your mileage may vary.

This is very interesting, Curtis. I'm going to try it in my next draft. It should work out very well for me, having all scouts concentrate on the draft, because I scheduled my draft before the beginning of the season, March 1 (the earliest the game will allow).

Curtis · 09-29-2006, 04:34 PM

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Originally Posted by 1998 Yankees

This is very interesting, Curtis. I'm going to try it in my next draft. It should work out very well for me, having all scouts concentrate on the draft, because I scheduled my draft before the beginning of the season, March 1 (the earliest the game will allow).

PLEASE report back on whether it worked for you, or if I was just blowing smoke.

digi · 10-03-2006, 06:11 PM

Curtis,

Here's a look at my head scout & #1 scout and a member of the draft pool.

He was rated #15 on my head scouts list. This is just one example of players w/ differences of x>30 on the potential scale. Both scouts are ranked as "80" in hitting potential.

Edit: Damn, can't get it to save under 100k.

Well here's the ratings:
Head scout: 22 Current / 60 Potential
Scout #1 : 22 Current / 26 Potential

CardinalsFan · 10-03-2006, 07:27 PM

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Originally Posted by digi

Curtis,

Here's a look at my head scout & #1 scout and a member of the draft pool.

He was rated #15 on my head scouts list. This is just one example of players w/ differences of x>30 on the potential scale. Both scouts are ranked as "80" in hitting potential.

Edit: Damn, can't get it to save under 100k.

Well here's the ratings:
Head scout: 22 Current / 60 Potential
Scout #1 : 22 Current / 26 Potential

how old is the potential draft pick? the variances on a 17-18 year old SHOULD be a lot versus a 21 year old college draftee.

i send ALL ML scouts to the draft and highly recommend doing this. when i see the above happening, i will go with the scout i have seen having the best "record" in the past at picking prospects. to do this be prepared to have the same scouts being resigned in your organization.

with all these scouting reports i typically use the average of all as my barometer for selection when we get down to the mid and later round picks.

09-29-2006, 11:27 AM	#10
digi Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 73	I just find it odd that similarly rated scouts who have high very high scout potential ratings are so far off on their reports of people in the draft. The head scout may say that Player X is top rated player w/ 80 potential and scout one calls him a complete scrub w/ 34 potential. Isn't it a bit unrealistic? Or does scouting need a complete overhall? __________________ DiGi

09-29-2006, 11:34 AM	#11
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	It's never happened with me. Differences of 8-10 points are common, and 12-15 occasional to rare, but I've never seen anything remotely approaching a 46 point difference. Edit: At any rate, I figure that six heads are better than two, so the average of everyone's evaluations is more likely to be accurate than any one individual, no matter how good he is. Last edited by Curtis; 09-29-2006 at 04:33 PM.

10-03-2006, 06:11 PM	#14
digi Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 73	Curtis, Here's a look at my head scout & #1 scout and a member of the draft pool. He was rated #15 on my head scouts list. This is just one example of players w/ differences of x>30 on the potential scale. Both scouts are ranked as "80" in hitting potential. Edit: Damn, can't get it to save under 100k. Well here's the ratings: Head scout: 22 Current / 60 Potential Scout #1 : 22 Current / 26 Potential __________________ DiGi Last edited by digi; 10-03-2006 at 06:14 PM.

09-25-2006, 11:02 PM	#1
PSUColonel Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 13,106	Scouting rookies How do you scout rookies for the upcoming draft?

09-26-2006, 03:21 PM	#6
Twelvefield All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Posts: 1,188	I think it's best to send your Head Scout to look at the Draft Pool, as the Head Scout Suggestion button on the Draft screen goes by his reccomendations.

09-28-2006, 08:20 PM	#9
Curtis Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2006 Location: Watertown, New York Posts: 4,567	Back on topic, scout the draft with ALL of your ML scouts.. Each will give you twenty recommended players. I make a list of all the players mentioned, then give them a rating from '1' (mentioned by one scout) to '6' (mentioned by everybody. I don't care about the exact ranking each scout gives someone, just that they mention him at all. When your turn to draft comes around, scratch everyone who's already been taken off your list. An easy way to do this is to shortlist everyone on your list, then go to your shortlist whenever your turn comes around and delete anyone who now has a team listed. If there are any sixes left, decide which of them you want most, draft him, then advance to the next round and repeat, dropping down through the fives, fours, etc. The time I tried this, I didn't run out of list until round 29, and I was very happy with my picks. The only modification I made was that my list was way overcrowded with catchers, so after I'd drafted five of them, I just deleted all the rest. Your mileage may vary.