Universal Team Boxing Association

[CONN CHRIS]

So when do we kick-off Scot?

The Haymakers are ready for their first victim.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

So when do we kick-off Scot?

The Haymakers are ready for their first victim.

Are you ready for pre-season Conn Chris? I'll set it up now(Hebron Haymakes vs. Undisputed Champions and let you know the results, I promise I wont cheat

-8 round bouts though, we dont want to wear the boxers out too early

[SAL]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

So when do we kick-off Scot?

The Haymakers are ready for their first victim.

I have the schedule ready. We have a little problem though. One of the managers has brought it to my attention that some of the teams are over the cap according to his db.
According to my db, all of the rosters came in at 96 & 97 points. I want to get this sorted out first and make sure everyone is on the same page before we begin. When thisn issue is settled, I'll post the schedule and hopefully we can have lift-off right after Friday Night Fights.

[CONN CHRIS]

Originally Posted by SAL

I have the schedule ready. We have a little problem though. One of the managers has brought it to my attention that some of the teams are over the cap according to his db.
According to my db, all of the rosters came in at 96 & 97 points. I want to get this sorted out first and make sure everyone is on the same page before we begin. When thisn issue is settled, I'll post the schedule and hopefully we can have lift-off right after Friday Night Fights.

Given the problems that you and I (and I suspect others) had with this and division issues, it doesn't surprise me.

I say that we just agree to use your database Scot, if everyone is under the cap per the fighters that will actually be used, that's good enough for me.

And jbergey22, you can play all you want. We'll see what happens on fight night.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

Given the problems that you and I (and I suspect others) had with this and division issues, it doesn't surprise me.

I say that we just agree to use your database Scot, if everyone is under the cap per the fighters that will actually be used, that's good enough for me.

And jbergey22, you can play all you want. We'll see what happens on fight night.

You won 39-30 BTW
Biggest upset was probably Buddy Baer over Tony Tucker. Tua looked like an unstoppable force 2 KO's. Overlin defeated Jermain Taylor via SD. Gonzales and Zamora looked great for you(4-0). Glencoffe Johnson was a huge flop for me, your light hw's dominated him. Looks like your team is already in midseason form.

Jermain Taylor vs Alex Ramos Jermain Taylor UD 8 8
Sugar Ramos vs Jorge Solis Sugar Ramos UD 8 8
Jaime Rios vs Jiro Takada Draw D 8 8
Frankie Crawford vs Jorge Solis Frankie Crawford UD 8 8
Jaime Rios vs Luis Maldonado Jaime Rios SD 8 8
Jimmy Flood vs Ken Overlin Ken Overlin MD 8 8
Tony Pep vs Fabian Tejeda Fabian Tejeda UD 8 8
Marvis Frazier vs Tony Tucker Tony Tucker TKO 8 8
Jermain Taylor vs Ken Overlin Ken Overlin SD 8 8
Paul Williams vs Adolph Pruitt Paul Williams KO 6 8
Jake Tuli vs Jhonny Gonzalez Jhonny Gonzalez UD 8 8
Oscar Muniz vs Alfonso Zamora Alfonso Zamora UD 8 8
Jake Tuli vs Alfonso Zamora Alfonso Zamora TKO 5 8
Paul Williams vs Randy Shields Randy Shields UD 8 8
Glencoffe Johnson vs Lotte Mwale Draw D(m) 8 8
Octavio Gomez vs Luis Maldonado Luis Maldonado SD 8 8
Buddy Baer vs David Tua David Tua KO 6 8
Oscar Muniz vs Jhonny Gonzalez Jhonny Gonzalez UD 8 8
Jimmy Flood vs Alex Ramos Alex Ramos UD 8 8
Tony Pep vs Miguel Callist Draw D(e) 8 8
Glencoffe Johnson vs Eddie Owens Eddie Owens SD 8 8
George Khalid Jones vs Eddie Owens George Khalid Jones KO 1 8
Marvis Frazier vs David Tua David Tua TKO 4 8
George Khalid Jones vs Lotte Mwale George Khalid Jones UD 8 8
Sugar Ramos vs Antonio Rivera Sugar Ramos UD 8 8
Zab Judah vs Adolph Pruitt Draw D(e) 8 8
Frankie Crawford vs Antonio Rivera Frankie Crawford UD 8 8
Zab Judah vs Randy Shields Randy Shields SD 8 8
Rocky Kansas vs Fabian Tejeda Fabian Tejeda UD 8 8
Buddy Baer vs Tony Tucker Buddy Baer TKO 3 8
Rocky Kansas vs Miguel Callist Rocky Kansas UD 8 8
Octavio Gomez vs Jiro Takada Draw D 8 8

[SAL]

jbergey, here's Tua @ begining and with CSA.

[vistaman44]

Originally Posted by SAL

The injury poll is in........Inside the Ropes Thread and is labeled Injury Poll for the UTBA
No one was personally notified!!!!!!!!!

Your vote is noted but it will not do you any good for reasons posted above. Injuries will be a part of the UTBA by majority vote.

We gotta communicate a little. I don't care about personal notification so much as at least knowing the poll was happening. I don't read anything in inside the ropes except this string, and wouldn't be involved or reading this, except that it was linked in the general discussion area, which is where I spend most of my "free time."

Also, I saw somewhere in this string that there's a Web site for this league? What's the link for that?

[vistaman44]

... injuries. Let's just move on and have a good time, OK guys? Sorry if I got a little testy, Scot. I appreciate your willingness to take on the commish job.

I certainly don't want to rile anyone up ... and besides, I can't wait to see Bob Foster versus the other LHs and see if Netrnoi Sor Vorasingh can win a match at Fly.

Let the games begin!

[Catalion]

Originally Posted by vistaman44

Let the games begin!

As someone said... let's get ready to rumble!

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by vistaman44

We gotta communicate a little. I don't care about personal notification so much as at least knowing the poll was happening. I don't read anything in inside the ropes except this string, and wouldn't be involved or reading this, except that it was linked in the general discussion area, which is where I spend most of my "free time."

Also, I saw somewhere in this string that there's a Web site for this league? What's the link for that?

Link is at the bottom of this thread where the rules. This in also go to be the "new" thread once results start coming in. best of luck!

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=126206

[vistaman44]

Originally Posted by jbergey22

Link is at the bottom of this thread where the rules. This in also go to be the "new" thread once results start coming in. best of luck!

http://www.ootpdevelopments.com/boar...d.php?t=126206

... for the blind guy who read that post and still missed the link.

Thanks, jbergey.

[Ian Lord]

The Tile Hill Top Team are ready to rock 'n' roll

[SAL]

Quote by vistaman "I certainly don't want to rile anyone up ..."
Too late............... you've riled me up.........

Mark(vistaman), you have taken some shots at me here personally. So I'll shoot a few back.

Originally Posted by vistaman44

We gotta communicate a little. I don't care about personal notification so much as at least knowing the poll was happening.

Yes you do or you would not of posted "Where is this poll and why wasn't I notified."
You said here how much you hated injuries more than once, you got poor ol' Chris to change his mind on his vote. I posted a poll for the group here to vote on because I was tired of seeing the same old post by you on how much you hated injuries every time someone mentioned it. This way the majority would decide if we use injuries or not and be done with this issue and move on. I was going to post a note here about the poll but before I could, 7 managers had already voted and by the end of the night every manager that was available to vote, voted except you.

As far as what I have seen here, everyone has been communicating just fine. I'm sorry I did not send you a message about the poll, but when I saw that all the votes were in except yours,(romdawg is gone for the month, Tosti is gone for 3 weeks and bigMatt was away for the weekend) one more vote was not going to change the outcome.

In a PM sent by you to me, you wanted to discuss the guidelines of the inital draft. You didn't like the lower rated fighters. If you would have been reading this thread from the beginning, you would have seen that everyone was discussing on how to stock an inital draft pool. I simply posted a suggestion and most of the managers said.....lets go with it or I can live with it. Of course you would have known that if you had been reading all of the thread.

In another PM sent by you to me, you gave me a list of 20 to 40 super fighters all rated over 10. This being submitted to me after the guidelines were posted here in the thread. Once again, you failed to read what has been going on here and just started posting who you wanted on your roster without finding out what the guidelines were.

As far as your apology, I'll accept one if it has none of your whining or pot shots directed at me attached with it. Never mind, don't apologize, I don't want one.

I'm very sorry to everyone else out there for having to read this. I'm not this way, I'm just tired of his comments. I would have done this in a PM but he went after me in public so I'm returning the favor. Mark Elwood, I'm offended by your comments and I should not have to take it.

[SAL]

Okay guys, here's what I do on aging active fighters.

Mike (mh) started a thread on this subject some time ago and I wanted to post my answer here so everyone would know what I'm doing in my database. You guys might as well know because my db is where the league bouts will be taking place.

I've been reluctant to post how I do this because I'm not sure I can explain
it very well.

For starters, if you activate the CSA box, all active fighters will be re-rated by the game using an inverted aging formula which changes the ratings of all active fighters except the actives that are set at prime. When you do this, you have changed the official Trunzo ratings of most fighters and now they are somewhat fictional.

To prevent this from happening, before I ever hit the CSA box, I change all active fighters to retired. Now I can change the career stage they are currently at to prime. Once I have done this for all of the active fighters, I activate the CSA box. All that changes now is that all fighters (retired and active) in the db are set to active/prime. No ratings have been changed using the inverted aging formula. Now the once active fighters can be aged just like the retired ones that came with the game without distorting Trunzo's
original ratings of active fighters.
Example:
Let's say Tua is set at Active and End. If you change him to retired/prime and then activate the CSA button, he will change to active/prime. This active/prime Tua is rated exactly the same as the original Tua Active/End one. Once the CSA button has been used, the only time an original active fighter will be what Tunzo originally rated him at will be when he hits the prime setting.

[CONN CHRIS]

The aging bit is complicated Scot, I fought with it prior to getting my universe up and running. What you've posted is fine by me.

Someone is always hassling the commissioner, that's why I hope you'll either pass the burden when it's too much of a pain or at least add an owner's hat to your bag at some point.

And if you two are setting this all up to add typical boxing controversy before we even start, well done. Otherwise, Mark - read! Scot - breath. I like you both.

Thanks for all the work Scot.

[SAL]

Originally Posted by CONN CHRIS

The aging bit is complicated Scot, I fought with it prior to getting my universe up and running. What you've posted is fine by me.

Someone is always hassling the commissioner, that's why I hope you'll either pass the burden when it's too much of a pain or at least add an owner's hat to your bag at some point.

And if you two are setting this all up to add typical boxing controversy before we even start, well done. Otherwise, Mark - read! Scot - breath. I like you both.

Thanks for all the work Scot.

Breathing............1,550 posts by me and that is the first time I've ever made a post like that. As far as the hassling, I can shoulder alot more than that.
On the aging, I never wanted to change the Trunzo ratings of fighters. The way I posted above is the only way I have found to accomplish that. I never use that inverted aging formula.

[jbergey22]

Originally Posted by SAL

Breathing............1,550 posts by me and that is the first time I've ever made a post like that. As far as the hassling, I can shoulder alot more than that.
On the aging, I never wanted to change the Trunzo ratings of fighters. The way I posted above is the only way I have found to accomplish that. I never use that inverted aging formula.

Thanks for the information SAL. I had always wondered what might be a better way to handle this issue!

[SAL]

The first week schedule has been posted in the Utba thread.
All results and stats will be posted there.
First up Friday night.......... Boxing Kangaroos versus Tile Hill Top Team.

[vistaman44]

Originally Posted by SAL

Quote by vistaman "I certainly don't want to rile anyone up ..."
Too late............... you've riled me up.........
Mark(vistaman), you have taken some shots at me here personally. So I'll shoot a few back.

Yes you do or you would not of posted "Where is this poll and why wasn't I notified."
You said here how much you hated injuries more than once, you got poor ol' Chris to change his mind on his vote. I posted a poll for the group here to vote on because I was tired of seeing the same old post by you on how much you hated injuries every time someone mentioned it. This way the majority would decide if we use injuries or not and be done with this issue and move on. I was going to post a note here about the poll but before I could, 7 managers had already voted and by the end of the night every manager that was available to vote, voted except you.
As far as what I have seen here, everyone has been communicating just fine. I'm sorry I did not send you a message about the poll, but when I saw that all the votes were in except yours,(romdawg is gone for the month, Tosti is gone for 3 weeks and bigMatt was away for the weekend) one more vote was not going to change the outcome.
In a PM sent by you to me, you wanted to discuss the guidelines of the inital draft. You didn't like the lower rated fighters. If you would have been reading this thread from the beginning, you would have seen that everyone was discussing on how to stock an inital draft pool. I simply posted a suggestion and most of the managers said.....lets go with it or I can live with it. Of course you would have known that if you had been reading all of the thread.
In another PM sent by you to me, you gave me a list of 20 to 40 super fighters all rated over 10. This being submitted to me after the guidelines were posted here in the thread. Once again, you failed to read what has been going on here and just started posting who you wanted on your roster without finding out what the guidelines were.
As far as your apology, I'll accept one if it has none of your whining or pot shots directed at me attached with it. Never mind, don't apologize, I don't want one.
I'm very sorry to everyone else out there for having to read this. I'm not this way, I'm just tired of his comments. I would have done this in a PM but he went after me in public so I'm returning the favor. Mark Elwood, I'm offended by your comments and I should not have to take it.

-- First, I never took any shots at you. There was no personal intent in any post or PM, and I'm sorry you took it that way. I just presented an opinion, and I'm sorry if grated on you and was different than yours.
-- I said in the post that upset you that the only way I heard about this league at all was in the cross-link in the General Discussions section. Maybe I should have gone back through and read from the beginning and looked for other related threads when I first came over, but I didn't. That was obviously my mistake. I was excited and thought it would be fun, but that's no excuse for not doing my homework.
-- As for my apology over complaining (I never "whine"), I made it and it was sincere. Take it or don't. I had no intent to upset you or anyone else. I just thought then, and still do, that the poll was a surprise. The result didn't matter at that point, but had I known and if I had posted in that string early, it could have. Water under the bridge ...
-- I only posted three times in this string about the injury thing, and at no time was any of it personal or targeted at anyone. It was discussion and presentation of my minority opinion.
-- Actually, some of the fighters in the first draft PM I sent you were rated lower than 10-11, like in the 7-8 range (like Cooney and some of the guys on my team like Espana and others). I apologize if I upset you because I didn't do more research. I was trying to hurry so I would not hold the group back. Again, I should have done more reading. In my very first post about my interest in the league here I said I still had TBCB1. I was not able to access the TBCB2 database or be more accurate on my picks because it was not updated on this site, either.
-- I'm sorry to the group for this. I have met Scot, and I thought he knew I was an easy-going guy who doesn't get personal. Now I'm saying in print, for the record, I meant no disrespect to him or anyone else here. Any of you who have read my posts over the years know that. I thanked Scot a couple of times in PMs and here for taking the large responsibility of commissioner, and I meant that, too. Part of it is being able to stomach opposing viewpoints, though. I had my say on injuries and tried to say "OK, let's move on," just as others of you did on other points.
-- If you guys want me out of the league over this, tell me. I can take it. Bear wants a franchise and can have mine if this is going to continue.
As I said, I meant no disrespect to Scot and the apology was sincere. I truly did not mean to get testy, and maybe being out of character like that set this off.

[mh2365]

Mark stays ... like both of you two ... looks just like a misunderstanding ... so let's go!