Seattle sports thread

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

Regarding the seahawks, we obviously need to win out, but if we do win out, we can win the division on the 5th tiebreaker if LA beats Arizona(if LA loses to arizona and us, we win the division automatically), but if they beat arizona we would be the same on head to head, division, common opponents, and conference, it would go to point differential which we currently lead on.

In that case unless the rams blow out the cardinals we could actually have the edge IF we win out. Of course that is a big if. The rams are a pretty good team and I don't know if I were a betting man if I'd bet on the seahawks over the rams in a week 18 play in game. It would be in LA for another thing.

I thought strength of victory was the 5th tie breaker. That's not point differential. In fact, it has nothing to do with how badly you beat other teams.

As of right now, the Rams are 9 wins ahead of the seahawks. If you beat the Bears and they beat Arizona, you lose another 3 points that have to be made up elsewhere. But if you beat the Rams the following week, you'll get 11 of them back. It will depend on the results of other games. Should be close.

[Mariner and Giants Fan]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

Regarding the seahawks, we obviously need to win out, but if we do win out, we can win the division on the 5th tiebreaker if LA beats Arizona(if LA loses to arizona and us, we win the division automatically), but if they beat arizona we would be the same on head to head, division, common opponents, and conference, it would go to point differential which we currently lead on.

In that case unless the rams blow out the cardinals we could actually have the edge IF we win out. Of course that is a big if. The rams are a pretty good team and I don't know if I were a betting man if I'd bet on the seahawks over the rams in a week 18 play in game. It would be in LA for another thing.

We need to have the Cardinals beat LA to make it so Seattle controls their destiny (again). However if The Rams ad Hawks win then Seattle must defeat the Rams (which they have to do anyway) and hope for other games to go their way (too many to list here). I would opt for the Rams losing out and the Hawks winning out.

[Mariner and Giants Fan]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

I will be very disappointed if the mariners don’t get alex bregman

Being a Mariner's fan prepares you for disappointment does it not .
I would be shocked if Bergman signs with the Mariners. I would like it but I do not think most good hitters want to play in T-Mobile park. On top of that the Mariner's organization is not looked on as a place where winning players want to play.
Disagree?
Oh and the Mariner's have not shown a desire to spend what it will take to bring top free agents here...lately.

[monkeyman576]

The fact that the seahawks can barely beat the bears in a do or die situation shows we probably don't belong in the playoffs.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

The fact that the seahawks can barely beat the bears in a do or die situation shows we probably don't belong in the playoffs.

I can't do it now because the game has already been played. But a situation existed where Seattle had a better chance at making the playoffs had they and the Rams lost this week, then Seattle winning next week.

As opposed to both Seattle and Rams winning this week, and Seatle beating the Rams next week.

[monkeyman576]

Mariners and Seahawks both out of the playoffs by a single game. Rough year to be a Seattle fan.

[Mariner and Giants Fan]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

Mariners and Seahawks both out of the playoffs by a single game. Rough year to be a Seattle fan.

True, but then again when isn't a rough year to one a sports fan of the professional teams in the Pacific Northwest 🤷🏼*♂️.

[monkeyman576]

Originally Posted by mariner and giants fan

true, but then again when isn't a rough year to one a sports fan of the professional teams in the pacific northwest 🤷🏼*♂️.

2013?

[Mariner and Giants Fan]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

2013?

You are forgetting about the Mariners season of that year, brutal 71-91 and the 12th straight season not in the playoffs. But yes 2013 was so great to be a Hawks fan for sure.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan

You are forgetting about the Mariners season of that year, brutal 71-91 and the 12th straight season not in the playoffs. But yes 2013 was so great to be a Hawks fan for sure.

That was the last truly elite defense the NFL has had.

[Syd Thrift]

I don’t know, I was overall pretty okay with the Hawks this year. The offense is frustrating and took a step backwards and I really think they need to go after a new OC but I really like the strides the defense made once they cut bait with the LBs they brought in over the offseason. Ernest Jones in particular seems like he’ll be Bobby Wags’ replacement going forward.

I do have to say that I was very very disappointed in Ryan Grubb, not just in how the line underperformed but in how he never seemed to figure anything out and on top of that seemed really slow to react and adjust to opposing defenses all year. Like, yes, early on we had no Abe Lucas and Connor Williams was awful but even at mid season all that got solved more or less and we still saw the Packers in particular absolutely teeing off on Laumea on passing downs, like the idea that a good team would target the rookie 5th round pick wasn’t something we all didn’t see coming.

Of course it would have been nice if the team had spent money on the interior instead of going with crappy Laken Tomlinson and guys on rookie deals but like a good OC and O line coach figures out how to account for that, especially when the other 3 positions are largely passable. Instead, the line actually performed worse even as the talent level increased, and whatever you want to say about all that, that’s on coaching.

The worst of it is that Geno Smith is actually a really good QB who was on a really friendly deal that expires next year (so this offseason the team will really need to either find a replacement or re-up him on a less friendly deal). I hoped for the best with Grubb after Waldron sans Canales proved to be so bad but it was somehow even worse than last year. Now I think they need to start hunting early and hard for a veteran OC who has experience piecing together offensive lines…

[monkeyman576]

I've heard different reports on if the Seahawks are going to allow Geno Smith to try and reach his contract incentives in his final game.

He can reach up to $6M in incentives for reaching certain perfomance milestones.

Obviously the seahawks don't want to have to pay that money but not allowing players the chance to reach incentives can be bad for clubhouse moral.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by Syd Thrift

The worst of it is that Geno Smith is actually a really good QB who was on a really friendly deal that expires next year (so this offseason the team will really need to either find a replacement or re-up him on a less friendly deal). I hoped for the best with Grubb after Waldron sans Canales proved to be so bad but it was somehow even worse than last year. Now I think they need to start hunting early and hard for a veteran OC who has experience piecing together offensive lines…

He does have a team friendly deal, but not a team friendly cap hit. He's the 10th highest cap hit among QBs. Next year he'll probably be top 5 taking up an estimated 14% of the cap.

[Ragnar]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

I've heard different reports on if the Seahawks are going to allow Geno Smith to try and reach his contract incentives in his final game.

He can reach up to $6M in incentives for reaching certain perfomance milestones.

Obviously the seahawks don't want to have to pay that money but not allowing players the chance to reach incentives can be bad for clubhouse moral.

I hope they let him play. This is where he stands.

On passing yards. He needs under 200 yards for 2M.
On passing TDs, not even close.
On completion %, he's just slightly above the mark. Playing could lose it, or maintain it.

On passer rating, again, not close.
On 10 wins or playoff berth, all he has to do is win the last game for 2M.

So yeah, he's set to get 6M if he plays. No less than 4M.

[monkeyman576]

Dodgers sign hye song Kim

https://www.cbssports.com/mlb/news/d...r-reports/amp/

Another mariners strikeout this offseason

[monkeyman576]

Seahawks are a class organization for allowing Geno a chance to make his incentives.

[monkeyman576]

George Kirby back just in time for those cheating astros!

[monkeyman576]

My ideal trade deadline deal for the mariners would be Suarez and Naylor for Hancock Ford and Bautista or give up the farm for Acuna Jr.

[Mariner and Giants Fan]

Originally Posted by monkeyman576

My ideal trade deadline deal for the mariners would be Suarez and Naylor for Hancock Ford and Bautista or give up the farm for Acuna Jr.

I like the one they made for Naylor. We have seen Geno in Seattle and he is not worth the asking price especially as a rental.

[monkeyman576]

Originally Posted by Mariner and Giants Fan

I like the one they made for Naylor. We have seen Geno in Seattle and he is not worth the asking price especially as a rental.

Yeah I’m happily surprised we got him for that cheap.