gold gloves

paperlantern · 04-20-2002, 11:15 PM

is it true that there are Gold Glove awards? I have not seen this...

Steve Kuffrey · 04-20-2002, 11:30 PM

These are not currently part of the game.

Jermanfu · 04-21-2002, 05:40 AM

This and the silver slugger award is something I hope they add in the future.

Dargone · 04-22-2002, 02:25 PM

Here's another vote for gold glove awards

lpoulas · 04-22-2002, 04:43 PM

Here's another vote for Gold Gloves, AND Silver Slugger for that matter!

TheRockCT · 04-23-2002, 06:19 AM

I vote for at least Gold Glove awards in the game, considering that the game does tally up fielding percentage & errors. Silver Slugger award would be nice too.

bkurtz · 04-23-2002, 06:43 AM

would be nice to have gold gloves. however, the way the defense is to be rated is quite debatable and pretty much opinable (fielding, assists, range, double plays, etc.), so i'm envisioning some heat starting the moment the game incorporates them.

Maple Leafs · 04-23-2002, 09:33 AM

Gold gloves would be a nice touch.

I'd suggest having it based 50% on fielding stats and 50% on ratings. Maybe even 25% stats and 75% ratings.

Why do it that way? Because gold gloves are usually based on reputation as much as performance, and this approach would incorporate that to some degree.

HolyCow98 · 04-26-2002, 07:25 AM

Mapleleafs is right, they are based heavily on reputation. I still would like them in their though.

lfj · 04-26-2002, 07:37 AM

I manually go into each Gold Glove winners history and edit the achievement...the winners are selected from the HTML utility that I believe Iatric created (nice job by the way!)

His report creates a file that lists Gold Glove ratings (although I don't know the exact formula he uses). And thanks to a nice piece of advice someone else provided, while in the Gold Glove html report, the players file id is provided for easy editing convenience.

LFJ

IatricSB · 04-26-2002, 08:45 AM

Thanks.... The main calculation is to state total chances in terms of innings played. I used a formula similar to an ERA calculation:

Total Chances * 9 / Defensive Innings

That gives me a range for each player. I then sort by position and then range (except for catchers which for lack of a better option was sorted by Stolen Bases given up per game played).

Carplos · 04-26-2002, 09:26 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by IatricSB:
Thanks.... The main calculation is to state total chances in terms of innings played. I used a formula similar to an ERA calculation:

Total Chances * 9 / Defensive Innings

That gives me a range for each player. I then sort by position and then range (except for catchers which for lack of a better option was sorted by Stolen Bases given up per game played).<hr /></blockquote>That's pretty good, but what happens if the same guy has like a .920 fielding percentage?

Scott Vibert · 04-26-2002, 09:29 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Carplos:
That's pretty good, but what happens if the same guy has like a .920 fielding percentage?

<hr /></blockquote>This is why the Boys of Summer has a Gold Glove Commitee which analyzes the report and then votes on the award winners.

IatricSB · 04-26-2002, 10:32 AM

<blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by Carplos:
 <blockquote>quote:<hr />Originally posted by IatricSB:
Thanks.... The main calculation is to state total chances in terms of innings played. I used a formula similar to an ERA calculation:

Total Chances * 9 / Defensive Innings

That gives me a range for each player. I then sort by position and then range (except for catchers which for lack of a better option was sorted by Stolen Bases given up per game played).<hr /></blockquote>That's pretty good, but what happens if the same guy has like a .920 fielding percentage?

<hr /></blockquote>I don't look at percentage because I didn't intend it to pick the gold glove winner, but rather to be a tool to determine the gold glove winner. I could choose to sort either by range or percentage and I chose range. Its up to the league/commish to decide how much weight to give the range vs the percentage. Like Scott mentioned, we have a 3 man committee in Boys of Summer that does that. They use the Gold Glove html page as the basis of their info, but it is up to each of the members of the committee to decide how much weight to give, then the three tally their votes together and name a winner from each league.

[ 04-26-2002, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: IatricSB ]

Dxgarnett · 04-26-2002, 05:36 PM

In my league, I give out Silver Sluggers and Gold Gloves myself, and it is VERY EASY to do.

Chris

04-20-2002, 11:15 PM	#1
paperlantern Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 176	gold gloves is it true that there are Gold Glove awards? I have not seen this...

04-20-2002, 11:30 PM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	These are not currently part of the game. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-21-2002, 05:40 AM	#3
Jermanfu All Star Reserve Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Baton Rouge, LA. Posts: 899	This and the silver slugger award is something I hope they add in the future. __________________ "I took the two most expensive asprins in history." - Wally Pipp on his decision to sit out a game with a headache which let Lou Gehrig into the lineup for the first time. http://s10.photobucket.com/albums/a121/Jermanfu/

04-22-2002, 02:25 PM	#4
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Here's another vote for gold glove awards __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

04-22-2002, 04:43 PM	#5
lpoulas Minors (Single A) Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Jersey Posts: 75	Here's another vote for Gold Gloves, AND Silver Slugger for that matter! __________________ Commissioner, <a href="http://www.geocities.com/lpoulas/ATB.html" target="_blank">All Time Baseball</a>

04-23-2002, 06:19 AM	#6
TheRockCT All Star Starter Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: TN Posts: 1,083	I vote for at least Gold Glove awards in the game, considering that the game does tally up fielding percentage & errors. Silver Slugger award would be nice too. __________________ GM, Vermont Emperor Penguins - POTD POTD Champions: 2011, 2012, 2013 GM, Monterrey Aztecs* - NABA *NABA Champions: 2013

04-23-2002, 06:43 AM	#7
bkurtz Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 161	would be nice to have gold gloves. however, the way the defense is to be rated is quite debatable and pretty much opinable (fielding, assists, range, double plays, etc.), so i'm envisioning some heat starting the moment the game incorporates them.

04-23-2002, 09:33 AM	#8
Maple Leafs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 234	Gold gloves would be a nice touch. I'd suggest having it based 50% on fielding stats and 50% on ratings. Maybe even 25% stats and 75% ratings. Why do it that way? Because gold gloves are usually based on reputation as much as performance, and this approach would incorporate that to some degree.

04-26-2002, 07:25 AM	#9
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	Mapleleafs is right, they are based heavily on reputation. I still would like them in their though. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

04-26-2002, 07:37 AM	#10
lfj Minors (Single A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 69	I manually go into each Gold Glove winners history and edit the achievement...the winners are selected from the HTML utility that I believe Iatric created (nice job by the way!) His report creates a file that lists Gold Glove ratings (although I don't know the exact formula he uses). And thanks to a nice piece of advice someone else provided, while in the Gold Glove html report, the players file id is provided for easy editing convenience. LFJ

04-26-2002, 08:45 AM	#11
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	Thanks.... The main calculation is to state total chances in terms of innings played. I used a formula similar to an ERA calculation: Total Chances * 9 / Defensive Innings That gives me a range for each player. I then sort by position and then range (except for catchers which for lack of a better option was sorted by Stolen Bases given up per game played). __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

04-26-2002, 09:26 AM	#12
Carplos Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Idaho Posts: 2,902 Infractions: 1/0 (0)	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by IatricSB: <strong>Thanks.... The main calculation is to state total chances in terms of innings played. I used a formula similar to an ERA calculation: Total Chances * 9 / Defensive Innings That gives me a range for each player. I then sort by position and then range (except for catchers which for lack of a better option was sorted by Stolen Bases given up per game played).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That's pretty good, but what happens if the same guy has like a .920 fielding percentage?

04-26-2002, 09:29 AM	#13
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,264	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Carplos: <strong>That's pretty good, but what happens if the same guy has like a .920 fielding percentage? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">This is why the Boys of Summer has a Gold Glove Commitee which analyzes the report and then votes on the award winners.

04-26-2002, 10:32 AM	#14
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	</font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by Carplos: <strong> </font><blockquote><font size="1" face="Verdana, Arial">quote:</font><hr /><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">Originally posted by IatricSB: <strong>Thanks.... The main calculation is to state total chances in terms of innings played. I used a formula similar to an ERA calculation: Total Chances * 9 / Defensive Innings That gives me a range for each player. I then sort by position and then range (except for catchers which for lack of a better option was sorted by Stolen Bases given up per game played).</strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">That's pretty good, but what happens if the same guy has like a .920 fielding percentage? </strong></font><hr /></blockquote><font size="2" face="Verdana, Arial">I don't look at percentage because I didn't intend it to pick the gold glove winner, but rather to be a tool to determine the gold glove winner. I could choose to sort either by range or percentage and I chose range. Its up to the league/commish to decide how much weight to give the range vs the percentage. Like Scott mentioned, we have a 3 man committee in Boys of Summer that does that. They use the Gold Glove html page as the basis of their info, but it is up to each of the members of the committee to decide how much weight to give, then the three tally their votes together and name a winner from each league. <small>[ 04-26-2002, 04:35 PM: Message edited by: IatricSB ]</small> __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

04-26-2002, 05:36 PM	#15
Dxgarnett All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Houston Posts: 614	In my league, I give out Silver Sluggers and Gold Gloves myself, and it is VERY EASY to do. Chris __________________ Buckcheeks was here.