Should have been, could of been league

munstermash · 05-16-2005, 08:13 AM

I am starting a new solo league by importing players in that should have been and could of been better then what they turned out. For example I am importing Rick Ankiel after his rookie season, what would have happened if he never went through his wild streak. I am not sure how many teams I am going to use yet but if you guys can think of any players that did not live up to their potential like they should of , I would love to add them. I think I will also add in some of my favorite players from 1970-2005 to give the league enough players.

ctorg · 05-16-2005, 08:30 AM

Mostly Mets, since that's what I know best:

Gregg Jefferies
Luis Medina
Bill Pulsipher/Paul Wilson/Jason Isringhausen (yes, I know, but he was supposed to be better)
David West
Jerome Walton
Dave Nied
Kevin Maas

You would have a case for including Dwight Gooden and Darryl Strawberry.

munstermash · 05-16-2005, 08:33 AM

I was going to put both Gooden and Strawberry, of course being a Cards fan back in the 80's I hated them but man could they both play.

Dagrims · 05-16-2005, 09:18 AM

This list should get you started:

Mark Fidrych
Joe Charboneau
Lyman Bostock (although not his fault)
Hensley Muelens
Troy Neel
Todd Van Poppel
Bob Hamelin
Pat Listach
Marty Cordova
Sam Horn
Billy Jo Robidoux
Bob Horner
Clint Hurdle
David Clyde
Randy Jones
Hideki Irabu
Deion Sanders
Eric Davis
John Castino
Ramon Martinez
Pat Hentgen
Ben McDonald
Mike Greenwell
Wayne Garland
Butch Metzger
Mark Davis (closer)
Danny Tartabull
Jaime Navarro
Carlos Febles
Ron Kittle
Billy Beane
Glenn Davis
Heathcliff Slocumb
Pat Zachary
Steve Henderson
Chris Sabo
Ken Phelps
Juan Samuel
Karim Garcia
Roberto Kelly
Delino DeShields
Alvin Davis (yet another bust named Davis)
Von Hayes
Ivan DeJesus
Jason Grimsley
George Bell
Bo Jackson
John Matlack
John Montefusco
Gregg Olson
Ben Grieve
Mo Vaughn
Kevin Mitchell
Jeff Burroughs
Kris Benson

goldfinger77 · 05-16-2005, 09:29 AM

Fred Lynn never really reached his potential cuz he was always friggin hurt.

CubsLose · 05-16-2005, 09:33 AM

Steve Blass is the first name that springs to mind. Not that he didn't fulfill his potential, just that he achieved it and then whatever 'it' is disappeared almost overnight.

goldfinger77 · 05-16-2005, 09:36 AM

Toe Nash, Josh Hamilton, and Jeff Allison, to name a few more recent guys.

Kemp · 05-16-2005, 09:40 AM

How about the 2 recent "phenom" busts? Brien Taylor (Yankees) and Ryan "Little Unit" Anderson (Mariners)?

Dagrims listed a good one in Bo Jackson.

munstermash · 05-16-2005, 09:50 AM

What ever happened to Ryan Anderson? Did he get hurt?

jaxmagicman · 05-16-2005, 09:55 AM

Jose Canseco.

ctorg · 05-16-2005, 09:55 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagrims

This list should get you started:

Glenn Davis

Do you really think of him as a bust?

Gastric ReFlux · 05-16-2005, 10:00 AM

Steve Jeltz

goldfinger77 · 05-16-2005, 10:01 AM

Nick Bierbrodt, and Generation K - Bill Pulsipher, Paul Wilson, and Jason Isringhausen (though he's had a pretty successful run as a reliever)

Kemp · 05-16-2005, 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by munstermash

What ever happened to Ryan Anderson? Did he get hurt?

Oh yeah. That poor guy broke/tore/strained just about every muscle and ligament there is in the human shoulder.

ctorg · 05-16-2005, 10:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by goldfinger77

Nick Bierbrodt, and Generation K - Bill Pulsipher, Paul Wilson, and Jason Isringhausen (though he's had a pretty successful run as a reliever)

Wow, my earlier post could have been a response to yours!

Dagrims · 05-16-2005, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctorg

Do you really think of him as a bust?

Not as a bust, but as someone who did not match the long-term expectations and projections. 5th overall pick, top 10 in MVP voting three times by age 28, then basically done.

I know the Orioles would consider him a bust. Schilling, Harnisch and Finley for him is one of the worst trades of all-time.

goldfinger77 · 05-16-2005, 10:06 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ctorg

Wow, my earlier post could have been a response to yours!

Hahaha, oops

goldfinger77 · 05-16-2005, 10:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagrims

Not as a bust, but as someone who did not match the long-term expectations and projections. 5th overall pick, top 10 in MVP voting three times by age 28, then basically done.

Was he from the Dominican?

ctorg · 05-16-2005, 10:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dagrims

Not as a bust, but as someone who did not match the long-term expectations and projections. 5th overall pick, top 10 in MVP voting three times by age 28, then basically done.

I know the Orioles would consider him a bust. Schilling, Harnisch and Finley for him is one of the worst trades of all-time.

Looking back, yeah, you're right. For some reason, I thought he started about seven years before he did. I started following baseball for real around 1987-88, and I thought he had been around for a while at that point. Nope.

Melo · 05-16-2005, 10:22 AM

cool idea. Here's some more:

Paul Householder
Junior Kennedy
Reggie Taylor
Jack Armstrong
JR Richard (died suddenly)
Bobby Valentine (tore up his knee)
Timothy Leary
Jim Eisenreich (successful but Tourette's ended his career)
Donovan Osbourne
Gene Richards
Phil Nevin
Dennis Littlejohn
Atlee Hammaker
Todd Van Poppel

05-16-2005, 08:13 AM	#1
munstermash Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 261	Should have been, could of been league I am starting a new solo league by importing players in that should have been and could of been better then what they turned out. For example I am importing Rick Ankiel after his rookie season, what would have happened if he never went through his wild streak. I am not sure how many teams I am going to use yet but if you guys can think of any players that did not live up to their potential like they should of , I would love to add them. I think I will also add in some of my favorite players from 1970-2005 to give the league enough players.

05-16-2005, 08:30 AM	#2
ctorg Global Moderator Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Queens, NY Posts: 9,848	Mostly Mets, since that's what I know best: Gregg Jefferies Luis Medina Bill Pulsipher/Paul Wilson/Jason Isringhausen (yes, I know, but he was supposed to be better) David West Jerome Walton Dave Nied Kevin Maas You would have a case for including Dwight Gooden and Darryl Strawberry. __________________ My music "When the trees blow back and forth, that's what makes the wind." - Steven Wright Fjord emena pancreas thorax fornicate marmalade morpheme proteolysis smaxa cabana offal srue vitriol grope hallelujah lentils

05-16-2005, 09:18 AM	#4
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	This list should get you started: Mark Fidrych Joe Charboneau Lyman Bostock (although not his fault) Hensley Muelens Troy Neel Todd Van Poppel Bob Hamelin Pat Listach Marty Cordova Sam Horn Billy Jo Robidoux Bob Horner Clint Hurdle David Clyde Randy Jones Hideki Irabu Deion Sanders Eric Davis John Castino Ramon Martinez Pat Hentgen Ben McDonald Mike Greenwell Wayne Garland Butch Metzger Mark Davis (closer) Danny Tartabull Jaime Navarro Carlos Febles Ron Kittle Billy Beane Glenn Davis Heathcliff Slocumb Pat Zachary Steve Henderson Chris Sabo Ken Phelps Juan Samuel Karim Garcia Roberto Kelly Delino DeShields Alvin Davis (yet another bust named Davis) Von Hayes Ivan DeJesus Jason Grimsley George Bell Bo Jackson John Matlack John Montefusco Gregg Olson Ben Grieve Mo Vaughn Kevin Mitchell Jeff Burroughs Kris Benson __________________ "Read books, get brain." Last edited by Dagrims; 05-16-2005 at 09:20 AM.

05-16-2005, 09:55 AM	#10
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05-16-2005, 08:33 AM	#3
munstermash Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 261	I was going to put both Gooden and Strawberry, of course being a Cards fan back in the 80's I hated them but man could they both play.

05-16-2005, 09:29 AM	#5
goldfinger77 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 169	Fred Lynn never really reached his potential cuz he was always friggin hurt.

05-16-2005, 09:33 AM	#6
CubsLose Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2005 Location: London, England Posts: 87	Steve Blass is the first name that springs to mind. Not that he didn't fulfill his potential, just that he achieved it and then whatever 'it' is disappeared almost overnight.

05-16-2005, 09:36 AM	#7
goldfinger77 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 169	Toe Nash, Josh Hamilton, and Jeff Allison, to name a few more recent guys.

05-16-2005, 09:40 AM	#8
Kemp All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 1,181	How about the 2 recent "phenom" busts? Brien Taylor (Yankees) and Ryan "Little Unit" Anderson (Mariners)? Dagrims listed a good one in Bo Jackson.

05-16-2005, 09:50 AM	#9
munstermash Minors (Triple A) Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 261	What ever happened to Ryan Anderson? Did he get hurt?

05-16-2005, 10:00 AM	#12
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	Steve Jeltz

05-16-2005, 10:01 AM	#13
goldfinger77 Minors (Double A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 169	Nick Bierbrodt, and Generation K - Bill Pulsipher, Paul Wilson, and Jason Isringhausen (though he's had a pretty successful run as a reliever)

05-16-2005, 10:22 AM	#20
Melo All Star Starter Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Where the baned reside Posts: 1,428	cool idea. Here's some more: Paul Householder Junior Kennedy Reggie Taylor Jack Armstrong JR Richard (died suddenly) Bobby Valentine (tore up his knee) Timothy Leary Jim Eisenreich (successful but Tourette's ended his career) Donovan Osbourne Gene Richards Phil Nevin Dennis Littlejohn Atlee Hammaker Todd Van Poppel