Time Ticking For Giambi?

GForce · 05-10-2005, 07:00 PM

WFAN radio in New York is reporting that Giambi has been sitting down with Torre and GM Brian Cashman for the past hour trying to hammer out how his tenure with the team will proceed. I suppose if it were really a possibility they would turn him loose, his agent would be involved as well. But if they were going to just DL him, I wouldn't think there would need to be a meeting to discuss it. They'd just do it.

Will be interesting to see how this plays out.

GH

SoxWin · 05-10-2005, 07:31 PM

I'm sure they'd love to buy him out but the union would scream foul, and rightly so.

I think the best chance for the Spanks would be for Giambi to go all Neagle and get caught with some $20 hooker.

As a Sox fan, I hope he continues to eat up a roster spot and multi millions each year to ride the pine

mlyons · 05-10-2005, 07:32 PM

... which brings up a question whose answer I've been puzzled about this year: why aren't people throwing strikes to Giambi? The man's walked 18 times and been hit by a pitch 6 times, and only has 15 actual base hits. Why the heck wouldn't you just soft-toss one down the middle of the plate and watch him swing and miss at it?

Green & Gold Heart · 05-10-2005, 07:34 PM

If sending him down to the minors is an option, I think he should agree to it. That way he'd at least be able to play every day to get his swing back, if he still has it.

cinredsfan2000 · 05-10-2005, 07:40 PM

Maybe it's just the new york media and fans finally taking it's tole on giambi?
granted the guy has the talent to hit . It couldnt all be roids right ?

Green & Gold Heart · 05-10-2005, 07:43 PM

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Originally Posted by cinredsfan2000

Maybe it's just the new york media and fans finally taking it's tole on giambi?
granted the guy has the talent to hit . It couldnt all be roids right ?

It could be part 'roids, but it could mainly be that he's 34 and breaking down. He peaked in Oakland, which is unfortunate for the Yanks and their big checkbook.

Jason Moyer · 05-10-2005, 07:46 PM

I think Trosky, Vaughn, and Kluczwkadfagkdfgski all took steroids too.

Also - Ralph Kiner.

Spielman · 05-10-2005, 08:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Jason Moyer

I think Trosky, Vaughn, and Kluczwkadfagkdfgski all took steroids too.

Also - Ralph Kiner.

So did Frank Meriwell. I heard it straight from Bart Hodge.

(Kudos to anyone who actually gets this and isn't at least 65 years old.)

abailey3313 · 05-10-2005, 09:12 PM

This post reserved for a future Jeremy Giambi joke.

Long_Long_Name · 05-10-2005, 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Green & Gold Heart

That way he'd at least be able to play every day to get his swing back, if he still has it.

Silly, if he still had it, he wouldn't need to get it back!

dasperp · 05-11-2005, 12:17 AM

I still can't believe how badly he is doing. With his plate discipline, he should be a decent hitter even without power (which couldn't have been all from the 'roids). And 34 isn't old enough to be completely breaking down. I would be happy if he hit .260, with a high obp and around 20 homers, but he seems incapable of even that.

Long_Long_Name · 05-11-2005, 12:22 AM

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Originally Posted by dasperp

I still can't believe how badly he is doing. With his plate discipline, he should be a decent hitter even without power (which couldn't have been all from the 'roids). And 34 isn't old enough to be completely breaking down. I would be happy if he hit .260, with a high obp and around 20 homers, but he seems incapable of even that.

Well, he's maintaining the plate discipline aspect. 10th in the AL isn't too shabby considering all his other problems.

rudel.dietrich · 05-11-2005, 12:32 AM

Hasn't he only had 70 AB?

Has anyone in New York ever heard of something called a slump?
He had a good ST and he started the year off pretty well.

MattStewNYY · 05-11-2005, 12:41 AM

He's bad.

He's been leaning into pitches and I, too, do not know why pitchers aren't challenging him more.

I don't think its a matter of the pressure NOW getting to him -- I think it always has, but I think at this point he's so close to a total breakdown that its all but written off anyway. During his interview tonight he snapped into some sort of daze a few times, just staring into space and sort of muttering the party line.

He's also losing his hair at a tremendous rate, and looks as if he is constantly sweating. I don't think Jason is very healthy at all, but I also think he wants to be liked and regarded as a Yankee so much that he, along with Arn Tellem, will go as far as they can before giving up with staying in the bigs.

kingcharlesxii · 05-11-2005, 12:49 AM

The parasites ate up all this baseball talent.

QuestGAV · 05-11-2005, 01:30 AM

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Originally Posted by kingcharlesxii

The parasites ate up all this baseball talent.

Yeah, Congress really screwed him over.

TonyJ · 05-11-2005, 01:33 AM

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Originally Posted by Fallschirmjager

Hasn't he only had 70 AB?

Has anyone in New York ever heard of something called a slump?
He had a good ST and he started the year off pretty well.

Slumps tolerated in New York? Where have you been?

Karros270 · 05-11-2005, 01:34 AM

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Originally Posted by QuestGAV

Yeah, Congress really screwed him over.

rofl

TotalEnd98 · 05-11-2005, 01:38 AM

It's entirely possible that he's just emotionally unwell at the moment. He didn't dance around the subject with the grand jury, since it's legally confidential. But it got out anyway, and now he has to hear about people excusing Bonds' "I didn't know what I was taking" while seeing quotes in the newspaper from testimony that wasn't supposed to be released. So now he knows he has to prove himself, and he knows he doesn't have steroids or anything to fall back on. That pressure, plus the mounting pressure of his slump, could just have him in a state where he's simply not emotionally capable of playing at the moment.

A stay in the minors might work really well for him. Put him in against pitchers that he knows he's better than, and he could regain his swing and confidence with it.

TonyJ · 05-11-2005, 01:42 AM

Seriously guys, we're talking about 77 at bats. His walk rate is more than satisfactory and his power has not shown much, if any, decline. I realize that the Yankees are feeling more pressure than usual because of their rough start but my gosh, talk about overreacting. If we were in the middle of June and he was under .200 I could understand but we're a month in to the season. Should the A's release Eric Chavez, too?

05-10-2005, 07:00 PM	#1
GForce Banned Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 3,458 Infractions: 0/2 (2)	Time Ticking For Giambi? WFAN radio in New York is reporting that Giambi has been sitting down with Torre and GM Brian Cashman for the past hour trying to hammer out how his tenure with the team will proceed. I suppose if it were really a possibility they would turn him loose, his agent would be involved as well. But if they were going to just DL him, I wouldn't think there would need to be a meeting to discuss it. They'd just do it. Will be interesting to see how this plays out. GH

05-10-2005, 07:31 PM	#2
SoxWin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Blissful ignorance Posts: 3,315	I'm sure they'd love to buy him out but the union would scream foul, and rightly so. I think the best chance for the Spanks would be for Giambi to go all Neagle and get caught with some $20 hooker. As a Sox fan, I hope he continues to eat up a roster spot and multi millions each year to ride the pine __________________ It's called partying. When you do a lot of it, you're bound to be places where the police show up. I smoke a lot of pot and drink a lot of beer. I also graduated Suma Cum Laude. ****ing sue me. - Luis Rivera

05-10-2005, 07:32 PM	#3
mlyons Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Philadelphia Posts: 3,725	... which brings up a question whose answer I've been puzzled about this year: why aren't people throwing strikes to Giambi? The man's walked 18 times and been hit by a pitch 6 times, and only has 15 actual base hits. Why the heck wouldn't you just soft-toss one down the middle of the plate and watch him swing and miss at it? __________________ Things can always be worse.

05-10-2005, 07:46 PM	#7
Jason Moyer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Pittsburgh Posts: 5,076	I think Trosky, Vaughn, and Kluczwkadfagkdfgski all took steroids too. Also - Ralph Kiner. __________________ "I pretty much popped everything cold turkey. We were doing steroids they wouldn't give to horses." -- Tom House "I was very fortunate to have a pitching coach by the name of Tom House...Tom, I really miss those days that we spent in the weight room and out on the field working together." -- Nolan Ryan's HoF Induction Speech

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Green & Gold Heart Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2004 Location: Wisconsin Posts: 5,242	If sending him down to the minors is an option, I think he should agree to it. That way he'd at least be able to play every day to get his swing back, if he still has it.

05-11-2005, 12:17 AM	#11
dasperp Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jan 2002 Posts: 61	I still can't believe how badly he is doing. With his plate discipline, he should be a decent hitter even without power (which couldn't have been all from the 'roids). And 34 isn't old enough to be completely breaking down. I would be happy if he hit .260, with a high obp and around 20 homers, but he seems incapable of even that.

05-11-2005, 12:32 AM	#13
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Hasn't he only had 70 AB? Has anyone in New York ever heard of something called a slump? He had a good ST and he started the year off pretty well.

05-11-2005, 12:41 AM	#14
MattStewNYY Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 143	He's bad. He's been leaning into pitches and I, too, do not know why pitchers aren't challenging him more. I don't think its a matter of the pressure NOW getting to him -- I think it always has, but I think at this point he's so close to a total breakdown that its all but written off anyway. During his interview tonight he snapped into some sort of daze a few times, just staring into space and sort of muttering the party line. He's also losing his hair at a tremendous rate, and looks as if he is constantly sweating. I don't think Jason is very healthy at all, but I also think he wants to be liked and regarded as a Yankee so much that he, along with Arn Tellem, will go as far as they can before giving up with staying in the bigs. __________________

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kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,730	The parasites ate up all this baseball talent. __________________ OTBA - Stockholm Royal Squirrels of Sweden OOTP Grand League Champion 2015

05-11-2005, 01:38 AM	#19
TotalEnd98 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,687	It's entirely possible that he's just emotionally unwell at the moment. He didn't dance around the subject with the grand jury, since it's legally confidential. But it got out anyway, and now he has to hear about people excusing Bonds' "I didn't know what I was taking" while seeing quotes in the newspaper from testimony that wasn't supposed to be released. So now he knows he has to prove himself, and he knows he doesn't have steroids or anything to fall back on. That pressure, plus the mounting pressure of his slump, could just have him in a state where he's simply not emotionally capable of playing at the moment. A stay in the minors might work really well for him. Put him in against pitchers that he knows he's better than, and he could regain his swing and confidence with it. __________________ OTBL - Scandinavia Cartoon Heroes This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper.

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TonyJ Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Gassin' Kurds Posts: 2,019	Seriously guys, we're talking about 77 at bats. His walk rate is more than satisfactory and his power has not shown much, if any, decline. I realize that the Yankees are feeling more pressure than usual because of their rough start but my gosh, talk about overreacting. If we were in the middle of June and he was under .200 I could understand but we're a month in to the season. Should the A's release Eric Chavez, too? __________________ My Podcasts: Talk Democratic Dysfunction Name Two Bands with Andy and Andy