Who is the real Champion? - STRAW WEIGHT DIVISION

CONN CHRIS · 04-30-2005, 11:26 PM

I'll start this off with the division no one really cares about. Absolutely great idea Ian!

I will keep the poll open for two weeks. Then I will run a single elimination tournament with the top eight vote getters to see if TBCB agrees with our selection.

Please discuss, shout (if anyone cares that much about straws

) and offer any opinions that you may have.

This should be more fun with some of the more popular weight divisions.

VOTE FOR UP TO THREE FIGHTERS

EDIT: I made a mistake with the Boxrec links below so when you click on them, the page shows the fighter's name in place of all his opponents. If you just click on his name in one of the opponent slots the right card comes up. I think I have the hang of it now -

Herry Amol
5(2)-0-0
Current Indoesian Champion (1 def.)
Boxrec Link

Isaac Bustos
24(13)-7-3
Lost his WBC belt to Takayama in early April
NABF Champion 2000-2003
Boxrec Link

Ivan Calderon
21(4)-0-0
Current WBO Champion (4 def.)
Former NABO Champion
Boxrec Link

Satoshi Kogumazaka
22(9)-6-3
Current Japanese Champion (5 def.)
Lost WBC bid to Eagle Kyowa in 2004
Boxrec Link

Eagle Kyowa
13(5)-1-0
Lost his WBC belt to Bustos in December of 2004
Boxrec Link

Juan Landaeta
17(15)-3-1
Lost his WBA belt to Yutaka Niida in October of 2004
Boxrec Link

Rodel Mayol
21(16)-0-0
Current OPBF Champion (3 def.)
Former Philippine Champion
Boxrec Link

Yutaka Niida
18(8)-1-3
Current and Two-time WBA Champion (2 def.)
Former Japanese Champion
Boxrec Link

Pornsawan Porpramook
10(9)-0-0
Current PABA Champion (7 def.)
Boxrec Link

Muhammad Rachman
49(21)-7-4
Current IBF Champion (1 def. a draw with Fahlan Sakkreerin)
Former IBF Pan Pacific Champion
Former Indonesian Champion
Boxrec Link

Daniel Reyes
34(29)-3-1
Lost his IBF belt to Rachman in September of 2004
Former Colombian Champion
Boxrec Link

Ngaoprajan Sithsaithong
3(3)-0-0
Current Thai Champion
Boxrec Link

Omar Soto
14(10)-2-1
Lost a bid for WBO Latino Flyweight belt in 2004
Former Mexican Champion
Boxrec Link

Katsunari Takayama
15(7)-1-0
Current WBC Champion (ist def. scheduled for August against Kyowa)
Boxrec Link

jrftbl56 · 04-30-2005, 11:32 PM

My Champ Is for sure Ivan Calderon he is undefeated and a solid fighter and i think could take care of any of the other strawweights but there isnt enough money or tv time for Strawweights to matter.

CONN CHRIS · 04-30-2005, 11:37 PM

I am taking Mayol because he is young, has power and has learned to defend with his OPBF belt.

I'm taking Rachman even though he drew last month and he is aging quickly. There haven't been many straws that were as good and could hold the weight for as long as he has.

Takayama may be the best of what is left, but I would rather be voting after he defends in August.

javier_83 · 05-01-2005, 07:25 AM

Me too i also go with Ivan Calderon

CONN CHRIS · 05-01-2005, 08:05 AM

Porpramook (one of SAL's picks) looks like a pretty good champ too although he doesn't seem very busy. I don't know anything about him but I wonder if he is an active Muay Thai too.

CONN CHRIS · 05-01-2005, 08:41 AM

One last plug for Mayol

6 of his last 8 fights were stoppage wins and he had a knockdown in the one full decision (the other dec was TD due to a head but). In that span he stopped Genki Ohnaka and Ernesto Rubillar - both pretty tough customers. He's only 23.

Calderon is good but he is already 30 and needs to get out of this hemisphere. It would be interesting to see how he fairs against some of the harder punching Asians.

jrftbl56 · 05-01-2005, 10:06 AM

Thats a good point Calderon has never really been tested by the asian fighters maybe if mayol and claderon both but toghther some more good wins they could fight but there isnt the demand for the fight.

CONN CHRIS · 05-01-2005, 12:49 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrftbl56

but there isnt the demand for the fight.

Absolutely zero, unfortuantely. Everything in this division that means anything takes place in Thailand, Philippines, Indonesia and to a lesser extent Japan and Korea.

jrftbl56 · 05-01-2005, 12:56 PM

Puerto Rico's Ivan Calderon (22-0) successfully defended his WBO minimum weight crown, stopping Noel Tunacao (38-8-2) of the Philippines in the eighth round. He did alright recently against this Asian fighter but i can read you next post already Tunacao is not on the level of a Mayol and you would be a hundred percent right but i guess you fight who u can.

CONN CHRIS · 05-01-2005, 01:55 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrftbl56

Puerto Rico's Ivan Calderon (22-0) successfully defended his WBO minimum weight crown, stopping Noel Tunacao (38-8-2) of the Philippines in the eighth round. He did alright recently against this Asian fighter but i can read you next post already Tunacao is not on the level of a Mayol and you would be a hundred percent right but i guess you fight who u can.

That actualy is a good notch for Calderon even though Tunacao is at the end. Is he retiring after this one?

jrftbl56 · 05-01-2005, 02:53 PM

I haven't read anything or seen anything to say he is going to retire but with no true prospect for any advancment in the division i would think it would probably be best.

CONN CHRIS · 05-08-2005, 10:17 AM

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meade95 · 05-08-2005, 11:19 PM

Eagle Kyowa is one hell of a fighter - He lost his last fight because of a freak shoulder injury (after clearly winning all rounds before this took place in the 4th round ...Or maybe it was the 3rd round).

If he stays at Straw he will definitely win a Title again. He is young, strong and can box.

I. Calderon is very solid (very technically sound) but he can't punch a lick.

There simply hasn't been a great SW champ since R. Lopez left and R. Sor Vorapin got old (they were two of the best ever).

As for Rachman.....While he is a tough old timer....he was given a gift win over Reyes. I have the fight on tape and Reyes clearly deserved the nod (especially with being champion going in).

View Poll Results: Who is the real Champion? - STRAW WEIGHT DIVISION
Herry Amol	0	0%
Issac Bustos	1	5.26%
Ivan Calderon	10	52.63%
Satoshi Kogumazaka	0	0%
Eagle Kyowa	2	10.53%
Juan Landaeta	0	0%
Rodel Mayol	3	15.79%
Yutaka Niida	1	5.26%
Pornsawan Porpramook	1	5.26%
Muhammad Rachman	5	26.32%
Daniel Reyes	0	0%
Ngaoprajan Sithsaithong	0	0%
Omar Soto	0	0%
Katsunari Takayama	2	10.53%
Other (please explain	0	0%
Multiple Choice Poll. Voters: 19. You may not vote on this poll

04-30-2005, 11:26 PM	#1
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,120	Who is the real Champion? - STRAW WEIGHT DIVISION I'll start this off with the division no one really cares about. Absolutely great idea Ian! I will keep the poll open for two weeks. Then I will run a single elimination tournament with the top eight vote getters to see if TBCB agrees with our selection. Please discuss, shout (if anyone cares that much about straws ) and offer any opinions that you may have. This should be more fun with some of the more popular weight divisions. VOTE FOR UP TO THREE FIGHTERS EDIT: I made a mistake with the Boxrec links below so when you click on them, the page shows the fighter's name in place of all his opponents. If you just click on his name in one of the opponent slots the right card comes up. I think I have the hang of it now - Herry Amol 5(2)-0-0 Current Indoesian Champion (1 def.) Boxrec Link Isaac Bustos 24(13)-7-3 Lost his WBC belt to Takayama in early April NABF Champion 2000-2003 Boxrec Link Ivan Calderon 21(4)-0-0 Current WBO Champion (4 def.) Former NABO Champion Boxrec Link Satoshi Kogumazaka 22(9)-6-3 Current Japanese Champion (5 def.) Lost WBC bid to Eagle Kyowa in 2004 Boxrec Link Eagle Kyowa 13(5)-1-0 Lost his WBC belt to Bustos in December of 2004 Boxrec Link Juan Landaeta 17(15)-3-1 Lost his WBA belt to Yutaka Niida in October of 2004 Boxrec Link Rodel Mayol 21(16)-0-0 Current OPBF Champion (3 def.) Former Philippine Champion Boxrec Link Yutaka Niida 18(8)-1-3 Current and Two-time WBA Champion (2 def.) Former Japanese Champion Boxrec Link Pornsawan Porpramook 10(9)-0-0 Current PABA Champion (7 def.) Boxrec Link Muhammad Rachman 49(21)-7-4 Current IBF Champion (1 def. a draw with Fahlan Sakkreerin) Former IBF Pan Pacific Champion Former Indonesian Champion Boxrec Link Daniel Reyes 34(29)-3-1 Lost his IBF belt to Rachman in September of 2004 Former Colombian Champion Boxrec Link Ngaoprajan Sithsaithong 3(3)-0-0 Current Thai Champion Boxrec Link Omar Soto 14(10)-2-1 Lost a bid for WBO Latino Flyweight belt in 2004 Former Mexican Champion Boxrec Link Katsunari Takayama 15(7)-1-0 Current WBC Champion (ist def. scheduled for August against Kyowa) Boxrec Link <!-- / message --><!-- sig --> __________________ Check Out My Cards! Last edited by CONN CHRIS; 05-01-2005 at 08:14 AM.

04-30-2005, 11:37 PM	#3
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,120	I am taking Mayol because he is young, has power and has learned to defend with his OPBF belt. I'm taking Rachman even though he drew last month and he is aging quickly. There haven't been many straws that were as good and could hold the weight for as long as he has. Takayama may be the best of what is left, but I would rather be voting after he defends in August. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

05-01-2005, 08:05 AM	#5
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,120	Porpramook (one of SAL's picks) looks like a pretty good champ too although he doesn't seem very busy. I don't know anything about him but I wonder if he is an active Muay Thai too. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

05-01-2005, 08:41 AM	#6
CONN CHRIS Global Moderator Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 29,120	One last plug for Mayol 6 of his last 8 fights were stoppage wins and he had a knockdown in the one full decision (the other dec was TD due to a head but). In that span he stopped Genki Ohnaka and Ernesto Rubillar - both pretty tough customers. He's only 23. Calderon is good but he is already 30 and needs to get out of this hemisphere. It would be interesting to see how he fairs against some of the harder punching Asians. __________________ Check Out My Cards!

04-30-2005, 11:32 PM	#2
jrftbl56 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 287	My Champ Is for sure Ivan Calderon he is undefeated and a solid fighter and i think could take care of any of the other strawweights but there isnt enough money or tv time for Strawweights to matter.

05-01-2005, 07:25 AM	#4
javier_83 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 3,091	Me too i also go with Ivan Calderon

05-01-2005, 10:06 AM	#7
jrftbl56 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 287	Thats a good point Calderon has never really been tested by the asian fighters maybe if mayol and claderon both but toghther some more good wins they could fight but there isnt the demand for the fight.

05-01-2005, 12:56 PM	#9
jrftbl56 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 287	Puerto Rico's Ivan Calderon (22-0) successfully defended his WBO minimum weight crown, stopping Noel Tunacao (38-8-2) of the Philippines in the eighth round. He did alright recently against this Asian fighter but i can read you next post already Tunacao is not on the level of a Mayol and you would be a hundred percent right but i guess you fight who u can.

05-01-2005, 02:53 PM	#11
jrftbl56 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2004 Posts: 287	I haven't read anything or seen anything to say he is going to retire but with no true prospect for any advancment in the division i would think it would probably be best.

05-08-2005, 10:17 AM	#12
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05-08-2005, 11:19 PM	#13
meade95 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Posts: 2,095	Eagle Kyowa is one hell of a fighter - He lost his last fight because of a freak shoulder injury (after clearly winning all rounds before this took place in the 4th round ...Or maybe it was the 3rd round). If he stays at Straw he will definitely win a Title again. He is young, strong and can box. I. Calderon is very solid (very technically sound) but he can't punch a lick. There simply hasn't been a great SW champ since R. Lopez left and R. Sor Vorapin got old (they were two of the best ever). As for Rachman.....While he is a tough old timer....he was given a gift win over Reyes. I have the fight on tape and Reyes clearly deserved the nod (especially with being champion going in). Last edited by meade95; 05-08-2005 at 11:22 PM.