Incredible way to finish it off!

DamnYankees · 04-02-2005, 04:22 AM

Ok, I'm doing a historical replay, and I'm all the way up to 1987. Only one franchise has never won a World Series. The St. Louis Cardinals have never even been in a World Series. They won the NL in 1904, but there was no Series that year. So 87 years without one. They finally make it in in 1987, and the Series is tied 3-3.

Pitching for the Cardinals is Ken Dayley, who did nothing in real life, but in my alternat world went 21-2 with a 2.07 in 1987, a freak year for him. He has alreadu lost games 1 and 4 of the Series. So here is his line for game 7

Code:

            IP H R ER BB K  HR PI  PS
K. Dayley W 9  0 0 0  4  11 0  128 75

That's right, he won the World Series with a no-hitter. 2nd no-hitter in World Series history, and it ends an 87 year old drought. I accidentally clicked and lost the screen before I could PrintScreen, but oh well.

Unreal.

sebastian0622 · 04-02-2005, 04:27 AM

Awesome. Although, in Dayley's defense, he didn't "do nothing" IRL. He was a slightly above average pitcher with a career ERA+ of 103.

But no, he never did anything like 21-2 with a WS no-hitter. That's cool stuff.

I've never done the historical leagues. What percentage of the elite players in them were not elite players in reality?

DamnYankees · 04-02-2005, 04:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by sebastian0622

Awesome. Although, in Dayley's defense, he didn't "do nothing" IRL. He was a slightly above average pitcher with a career ERA+ of 103.

But no, he never did anything like 21-2 with a WS no-hitter. That's cool stuff.

I've never done the historical leagues. What percentage of the elite players in them were not elite players in reality?

I've done 3 historical replays so far, because they're just really fun. I tend to get 3-4 players who become HOFers who you never heard of before. Here are some stats from some guys in my replays:

Johnny Lush:

Code:

Year 	Age 	Tm 	Lg 	W 	L 	Pct 	G 	GS 	CG 	SHO 	SV 	IP 	H 	ER 	HR 	BB 	SO 	ERA 	OAVG 	OOBP 	OSLG 	OOPS 	PWS
1906 	20 	BRO 	NL 	3 	4 	.429 	15 	3 	1 	0 	2 	41.0 	27 	11 	1 	26 	14 	2.41 	.188 	.310 	.285 	.595 	3.6
  	  	AAA 	  	3 	1 	.750 	4 	4 	3 	1 	0 	36.0 	21 	3 	0 	14 	42 	0.75 	.167 	.250 	.238 	.488 	 
1907 	21 	BRO 	NL 	6 	7 	.462 	25 	15 	3 	1 	2 	120.0 	89 	28 	1 	42 	60 	2.10 	.208 	.285 	.280 	.565 	9.5
  	  	AAA 	  	1 	0 	1.000 	1 	1 	0 	0 	0 	8.0 	4 	2 	0 	2 	4 	2.25 	.143 	.200 	.179 	.379 	 
1908 	22 	BRO 	NL 	14 	17 	.452 	35 	35 	20 	2 	0 	292.7 	227 	72 	1 	86 	101 	2.21 	.214 	.278 	.259 	.537 	15.8
1909 	23 	BRO 	NL 	19 	8 	.704 	38 	38 	17 	4 	0 	299.0 	245 	78 	4 	75 	154 	2.35 	.223 	.280 	.287 	.568 	26.2
1910 	24 	BRO 	NL 	23 	12 	.657 	38 	38 	35 	4 	0 	339.7 	247 	72 	1 	76 	254 	1.91 	.204 	.265 	.264 	.528 	32.7
1911 	25 	BRO 	NL 	27 	10 	.730 	39 	39 	35 	5 	0 	355.0 	262 	75 	0 	97 	296 	1.90 	.203 	.262 	.265 	.527 	38.8
1912 	26 	BRO 	NL 	29 	10 	.744 	40 	40 	36 	5 	0 	354.7 	253 	78 	1 	83 	291 	1.98 	.200 	.253 	.263 	.516 	38.1
1913 	27 	BRO 	NL 	24 	12 	.667 	40 	40 	36 	6 	0 	352.0 	268 	70 	5 	64 	280 	1.79 	.210 	.253 	.281 	.534 	37.7
1914 	28 	BRO 	NL 	29 	5 	.853 	40 	40 	33 	11 	0 	358.0 	233 	46 	0 	63 	311 	1.16 	.184 	.230 	.239 	.469 	42.2
1915 	29 	BRO 	NL 	24 	8 	.750 	37 	37 	27 	8 	0 	320.7 	190 	53 	0 	65 	291 	1.49 	.169 	.223 	.220 	.443 	36.6
1916 	30 	BRO 	NL 	33 	5 	.868 	38 	38 	36 	7 	0 	341.3 	204 	61 	4 	65 	329 	1.61 	.171 	.218 	.237 	.455 	41.5
1917 	31 	BRO 	NL 	31 	8 	.795 	40 	40 	34 	12 	0 	352.0 	254 	73 	1 	65 	257 	1.87 	.200 	.245 	.260 	.505 	39.2
1918 	32 	BRO 	NL 	23 	7 	.767 	31 	31 	27 	8 	0 	278.0 	168 	42 	1 	58 	261 	1.36 	.174 	.229 	.225 	.453 	36.6
1919 	33 	BRO 	NL 	27 	7 	.794 	36 	36 	33 	5 	0 	319.7 	241 	57 	0 	46 	212 	1.60 	.210 	.242 	.265 	.507 	36.6
1920 	34 	BRO 	NL 	20 	14 	.588 	35 	35 	32 	1 	0 	323.0 	300 	111 	5 	69 	158 	3.09 	.244 	.284 	.350 	.634 	28.8
1921 	35 	BRO 	NL 	19 	11 	.633 	35 	35 	25 	4 	0 	291.7 	268 	88 	3 	61 	126 	2.72 	.241 	.284 	.309 	.593 	28.3
1922 	36 	BRO 	NL 	25 	13 	.658 	41 	41 	35 	0 	0 	354.3 	320 	116 	18 	93 	146 	2.95 	.243 	.294 	.348 	.642 	35.9
1923 	37 	BRO 	NL 	20 	16 	.556 	39 	39 	31 	2 	0 	336.3 	350 	155 	10 	113 	136 	4.15 	.270 	.329 	.366 	.695 	20.2
1924 	38 	BRO 	NL 	17 	16 	.515 	40 	40 	24 	1 	0 	311.7 	330 	156 	21 	141 	109 	4.50 	.276 	.352 	.389 	.742 	13.7
1925 	39 	BRO 	NL 	7 	14 	.333 	25 	24 	15 	2 	0 	193.3 	217 	109 	24 	107 	70 	5.07 	.288 	.379 	.437 	.816 	7.4
  	PIT 	NL 	0 	0 	.000 	1 	1 	1 	0 	0 	0.7 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0.00 	.000 	.000 	.000 	.000 	0.1
  	TOT 	  	7 	14 	.333 	26 	25 	16 	2 	0 	194.0 	217 	109 	24 	107 	70 	5.06 	.287 	.378 	.436 	.814 	7.5
20 Years Sim 	420 	204 	.673 	708 	685 	536 	88 	4 	5934.6 	4693 	1551 	101 	1495 	3856 	2.35 	.217 	.272 	.291 	.563 	569.5

Walt Masterson:

Code:

Year 	Age 	Tm 	Lg 	W 	L 	Pct 	G 	GS 	CG 	SHO 	SV 	IP 	H 	ER 	HR 	BB 	SO 	ERA 	OAVG 	OOBP 	OSLG 	OOPS 	PWS
1940 	20 	BRO 	NL 	0 	1 	.000 	14 	0 	0 	0 	2 	13.0 	11 	9 	0 	14 	7 	6.23 	.224 	.400 	.286 	.686 	0.3
  	  	AAA 	  	6 	6 	.500 	14 	14 	8 	0 	0 	109.3 	91 	56 	7 	86 	94 	4.61 	.226 	.362 	.318 	.680 	 
1941 	21 	BRO 	NL 	6 	5 	.545 	42 	14 	0 	0 	4 	107.3 	89 	44 	1 	68 	70 	3.69 	.231 	.347 	.316 	.663 	9.3
  	SLA 	AL 	3 	0 	1.000 	6 	2 	0 	0 	0 	32.3 	36 	13 	1 	21 	20 	3.62 	.283 	.383 	.394 	.776 	1.9
  	TOT 	  	9 	5 	.643 	48 	16 	0 	0 	4 	139.7 	125 	57 	2 	89 	90 	3.67 	.244 	.356 	.335 	.691 	11.2
1942 	22 	SLA 	AL 	16 	9 	.640 	34 	34 	1 	0 	0 	218.7 	156 	85 	14 	117 	161 	3.50 	.201 	.309 	.311 	.620 	12.7
1943 	23 	SLA 	AL 	23 	4 	.852 	41 	41 	0 	0 	0 	260.0 	190 	85 	7 	142 	248 	2.94 	.201 	.310 	.276 	.586 	23.6
1944 	24 	SLA 	AL 	19 	8 	.704 	38 	38 	16 	1 	0 	292.0 	190 	91 	5 	159 	326 	2.80 	.181 	.292 	.268 	.560 	26.2
1945 	25 	SLA 	AL 	29 	10 	.744 	42 	42 	33 	5 	0 	360.0 	230 	81 	4 	180 	362 	2.03 	.181 	.284 	.256 	.540 	47.5
1946 	26 	SLA 	AL 	30 	8 	.789 	42 	42 	31 	5 	0 	362.0 	239 	92 	4 	166 	360 	2.29 	.183 	.277 	.271 	.548 	41.6
1947 	27 	SLA 	AL 	20 	12 	.625 	39 	39 	28 	4 	0 	328.3 	208 	80 	6 	159 	287 	2.19 	.181 	.285 	.264 	.549 	35.1
1948 	28 	SLA 	AL 	17 	11 	.607 	33 	33 	24 	1 	0 	266.7 	206 	92 	5 	119 	262 	3.11 	.209 	.295 	.303 	.598 	24.8
1949 	29 	SLA 	AL 	18 	10 	.643 	35 	35 	27 	6 	0 	294.7 	218 	81 	2 	107 	224 	2.47 	.206 	.279 	.271 	.550 	31.7
1950 	30 	SLA 	AL 	29 	5 	.853 	41 	41 	30 	7 	0 	352.3 	260 	87 	3 	126 	328 	2.22 	.203 	.276 	.271 	.547 	39.9
1951 	31 	SLA 	AL 	20 	10 	.667 	38 	38 	23 	5 	0 	312.3 	222 	94 	10 	130 	283 	2.71 	.197 	.283 	.289 	.572 	28.6
1952 	32 	SLA 	AL 	24 	7 	.774 	37 	37 	18 	2 	0 	296.0 	207 	77 	8 	90 	307 	2.34 	.196 	.263 	.268 	.531 	30.9
1953 	33 	SLA 	AL 	24 	6 	.800 	39 	39 	14 	6 	0 	308.7 	228 	74 	2 	113 	306 	2.16 	.203 	.278 	.268 	.546 	36.1
1954 	34 	SLA 	AL 	26 	7 	.788 	41 	41 	17 	7 	0 	336.0 	216 	71 	5 	153 	334 	1.90 	.183 	.276 	.243 	.519 	42.4
1955 	35 	SLA 	AL 	24 	9 	.727 	41 	41 	18 	4 	0 	343.7 	238 	95 	11 	139 	337 	2.49 	.191 	.274 	.268 	.541 	33.7
1956 	36 	SLA 	AL 	15 	8 	.652 	34 	34 	11 	5 	0 	267.3 	162 	68 	7 	154 	268 	2.29 	.173 	.293 	.244 	.537 	27.7
1957 	37 	BAL 	AL 	19 	13 	.594 	39 	39 	12 	0 	0 	308.3 	209 	107 	24 	172 	305 	3.12 	.192 	.305 	.305 	.610 	24.0
1958 	38 	BAL 	AL 	22 	10 	.688 	42 	42 	15 	4 	0 	331.0 	224 	114 	19 	174 	319 	3.10 	.191 	.298 	.297 	.596 	27.9
1959 	39 	BAL 	AL 	21 	14 	.600 	42 	41 	14 	2 	0 	335.0 	232 	115 	30 	150 	314 	3.09 	.196 	.288 	.318 	.607 	30.0
1960 	40 	BAL 	AL 	16 	18 	.471 	41 	41 	13 	2 	0 	322.7 	233 	122 	37 	164 	321 	3.40 	.201 	.301 	.349 	.650 	22.1
1961 	41 	BAL 	AL 	15 	15 	.500 	34 	34 	1 	0 	0 	228.3 	218 	93 	32 	91 	219 	3.67 	.255 	.327 	.415 	.741 	17.8
1962 	42 	BAL 	AL 	10 	16 	.385 	32 	32 	4 	0 	0 	225.7 	201 	114 	41 	102 	175 	4.55 	.242 	.326 	.431 	.756 	7.0
23 Years Sim 	446 	216 	.674 	867 	820 	350 	66 	6 	6502.3 	4623 	1984 	278 	3010 	6143 	2.75 	.198 	.292 	.292 	.584 	623.2

Gary Geiger:

Code:

Year 	Age 	Tm 	Lg 	G 	AB 	R 	H 	2B 	3B 	HR 	RBI 	SB 	CS 	BB 	SO 	AVG 	OBP 	SLG 	OPS 	XR 	OWS
1958 	21 	AA 	  	130 	486 	89 	151 	36 	14 	27 	75 	10 	10 	47 	95 	.311 	.371 	.609 	.981 	98.8 	 
1959 	22 	LAD 	NL 	3 	1 	1 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	0 	.000 	.000 	.000 	.000 	-0.1 	0.0
  	  	AAA 	  	8 	31 	6 	4 	0 	0 	0 	1 	1 	0 	6 	3 	.129 	.270 	.129 	.399 	1.6 	 
  	  	AA 	  	123 	465 	68 	129 	32 	6 	25 	62 	14 	12 	46 	85 	.277 	.342 	.533 	.876 	80.3 	 
1960 	23 	BOS 	AL 	30 	30 	2 	3 	0 	1 	0 	0 	0 	0 	2 	2 	.100 	.156 	.167 	.323 	-0.1 	0.0
  	  	AAA 	  	81 	310 	58 	99 	20 	3 	24 	65 	6 	8 	35 	67 	.319 	.388 	.635 	1.024 	68.2 	 
  	  	AA 	  	21 	74 	13 	20 	1 	0 	5 	12 	1 	0 	12 	16 	.270 	.372 	.486 	.859 	14.0 	 
1961 	24 	BOS 	AL 	140 	421 	93 	117 	16 	6 	32 	95 	0 	3 	61 	67 	.278 	.368 	.572 	.941 	86.1 	17.9
1962 	25 	BOS 	AL 	159 	535 	97 	126 	17 	6 	32 	92 	2 	5 	101 	109 	.236 	.360 	.469 	.830 	90.2 	15.8
1963 	26 	BOS 	AL 	153 	526 	96 	146 	17 	6 	39 	90 	1 	6 	90 	95 	.278 	.391 	.555 	.946 	107.1 	28.9
1964 	27 	BOS 	AL 	156 	543 	93 	146 	21 	5 	31 	101 	1 	4 	92 	110 	.269 	.380 	.497 	.877 	103.7 	25.1
1965 	28 	BOS 	AL 	157 	524 	84 	143 	24 	8 	34 	86 	0 	4 	84 	102 	.273 	.383 	.544 	.927 	104.8 	29.4
1966 	29 	BOS 	AL 	158 	543 	96 	147 	20 	11 	33 	79 	1 	3 	81 	111 	.271 	.368 	.530 	.898 	101.8 	23.0
1967 	30 	BOS 	AL 	157 	550 	110 	170 	28 	8 	44 	116 	2 	2 	95 	90 	.309 	.415 	.629 	1.044 	130.4 	39.6
1968 	31 	BOS 	AL 	157 	547 	96 	151 	17 	2 	42 	97 	1 	7 	95 	107 	.276 	.388 	.545 	.933 	110.5 	26.6
1969 	32 	BOS 	AL 	156 	524 	104 	140 	23 	3 	34 	78 	2 	7 	103 	123 	.267 	.393 	.517 	.911 	106.0 	26.8
1970 	33 	BOS 	AL 	158 	532 	119 	158 	20 	4 	45 	118 	3 	7 	102 	107 	.297 	.410 	.603 	1.013 	125.7 	29.1
1971 	34 	BOS 	AL 	155 	557 	109 	166 	19 	8 	32 	101 	3 	6 	103 	110 	.298 	.409 	.533 	.942 	117.2 	27.9
1972 	35 	BOS 	AL 	157 	524 	96 	146 	12 	5 	24 	62 	3 	3 	130 	118 	.279 	.423 	.458 	.881 	105.9 	28.5
1973 	36 	BOS 	AL 	155 	556 	108 	150 	19 	10 	31 	83 	3 	2 	97 	133 	.270 	.380 	.507 	.887 	104.0 	23.1
1974 	37 	BOS 	AL 	156 	574 	125 	168 	23 	6 	32 	91 	3 	6 	104 	123 	.293 	.406 	.521 	.927 	117.5 	28.4
1975 	38 	BOS 	AL 	156 	562 	105 	167 	14 	9 	22 	82 	1 	1 	90 	116 	.297 	.394 	.472 	.866 	101.3 	23.5
1976 	39 	SDP 	NL 	144 	440 	58 	112 	13 	2 	7 	45 	1 	2 	72 	96 	.255 	.369 	.341 	.710 	61.0 	13.6
18 Years Sim 	2507 	8489 	1592 	2356 	303 	100 	514 	1416 	27 	68 	1502 	1719 	.278 	.390 	.518 	.908 	1673.0 	407.1

You'll get 2-3 of these in each replay if you're rigorous about league totals and whatnot.

Just for the record, Dayley is not heading for this kind of career. Even in my league his 21-2 was way out of character. He nearly doubled his career win total with it.

Bonedwarf · 04-02-2005, 04:35 AM

With a quick glance, the formatting really messed that up. Had to double take

Edit: Talking about the initial post. Hell of a line!

DamnYankees · 04-02-2005, 04:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Bonedwarf

With a quick glance, the formatting really messed that up. Had to double take

Edit: Talking about the initial post. Hell of a line!

Yeah, the formatting of the career totals line was off. I was hoping a direct copy/paste from Cato would work, but it didn't. I'm just a tad too lazy at the moment to edit it.

DougWyatt · 04-02-2005, 09:24 AM

Wow ... A no-no in game 7 of the World Series !

Reminds me of my glory days !! (Errr, back in the days of throwing balls into a chalked out "strike zone" against my garage - Damn, that Wyatt kid was awesome !! lol)

Great story

Malleus Dei · 04-02-2005, 01:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Pitching for the Cardinals is Ken Dayley, who did nothing in real life...

Ken Dayley lifetime: 573.2 IP, 3.64 ERA. From 1985 to 1989, Dayley's ERA was over 3.00 exactly once. Dayley pitched in four different post-season series with a very nice 0.58 WHIP.

I would not call that "nothing in real life."

Maple Leafs · 04-02-2005, 06:16 PM

Wow, that's the sort of thing that could make a guy dizzy.

DamnYankees · 04-02-2005, 06:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Malleus Dei

Ken Dayley lifetime: 573.2 IP, 3.64 ERA. From 1985 to 1989, Dayley's ERA was over 3.00 exactly once. Dayley pitched in four different post-season series with a very nice 0.58 WHIP.

I would not call that "nothing in real life."

Fair enough. My apologies to Ken Dayley fans out there. I'd never even heard of hi, and being a solid middle relievere still is nothing like what he's doing in my league.

GForce · 04-02-2005, 06:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DamnYankees

Fair enough. My apologies to Ken Dayley fans out there. I'd never even heard of hi, and being a solid middle relievere still is nothing like what he's doing in my league.

I think most of us knew what you meant.

Cool stuff.

GH

04-02-2005, 04:22 AM	#1
DamnYankees All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 1,644	Incredible way to finish it off! Ok, I'm doing a historical replay, and I'm all the way up to 1987. Only one franchise has never won a World Series. The St. Louis Cardinals have never even been in a World Series. They won the NL in 1904, but there was no Series that year. So 87 years without one. They finally make it in in 1987, and the Series is tied 3-3. Pitching for the Cardinals is Ken Dayley, who did nothing in real life, but in my alternat world went 21-2 with a 2.07 in 1987, a freak year for him. He has alreadu lost games 1 and 4 of the Series. So here is his line for game 7 Code: IP H R ER BB K HR PI PS K. Dayley W 9 0 0 0 4 11 0 128 75 That's right, he won the World Series with a no-hitter. 2nd no-hitter in World Series history, and it ends an 87 year old drought. I accidentally clicked and lost the screen before I could PrintScreen, but oh well. Unreal.

04-02-2005, 04:27 AM	#2
sebastian0622 Banned Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 3,465	Awesome. Although, in Dayley's defense, he didn't "do nothing" IRL. He was a slightly above average pitcher with a career ERA+ of 103. But no, he never did anything like 21-2 with a WS no-hitter. That's cool stuff. I've never done the historical leagues. What percentage of the elite players in them were not elite players in reality?

04-02-2005, 04:35 AM	#4
Bonedwarf All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 1,339	With a quick glance, the formatting really messed that up. Had to double take Edit: Talking about the initial post. Hell of a line!

04-02-2005, 09:24 AM	#6
DougWyatt All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2003 Location: Michigan Posts: 1,117	Wow ... A no-no in game 7 of the World Series ! Reminds me of my glory days !! (Errr, back in the days of throwing balls into a chalked out "strike zone" against my garage - Damn, that Wyatt kid was awesome !! lol) Great story

04-02-2005, 06:16 PM	#8
Maple Leafs Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 234	Wow, that's the sort of thing that could make a guy dizzy.