My take on the experienced GM threads

RBLwebguy · 01-24-2005, 09:44 PM

OK, I see many experienced GM threads. Been with OOTP since version.....blah blah blah. Looking for a good league. Well most of the good leagues don't have to look thru these experienced GM threads. Your best bet, if you are good, is to research. See who has been around for a long time. Scour thier forums, history, etc to see if they are an active league and one you may want to join. Check owners page to see the who's who and get references if you need em. There are a lot of ambitious commishes that start up leagues that last maybe a few seasons. But there are those who have been around for a 2 or more real time years now.

Ahh I am just rambling, time to shut up!

rem · 01-24-2005, 09:45 PM

I know first hand that many experienced GM's do not have the good kind of experience.

RBLwebguy · 01-24-2005, 09:45 PM

and how come I haven't heard of you before!

I have been on these boards and looked at various leagues!

Have you really been around that long?

not you remanjii , the so called experienced ones

rem · 01-24-2005, 09:49 PM

I have no idea whether or not you're serious.

RBLwebguy · 01-24-2005, 09:52 PM

always

Matteo · 01-24-2005, 10:00 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remangiii

I have no idea whether or not you're serious.

Quote:

Originally Posted by WEB GUY

always

RBLwebguy · 01-24-2005, 10:02 PM

Plus I am jealous that my threads don't generate more conversation thatn others, maybe I am ranting and reaching out!

A cry for help!

MogulChamp · 01-24-2005, 10:09 PM

Well as I am one of the people who posted a thread of this nature. I can at least speak for myself. Personally...I don't like sifting through all 30 pages of posts to maybe find a good league, especially when what I am looking for is pretty precise.
That's my take on the whole "experienced GM's looking for leagues thread complaint"

RBLwebguy · 01-24-2005, 10:14 PM

I probably shouldn't rag on everyone who posts those, but I feel a GM who seeks me out and gives me a solid application with more than the following:

"dude, you got an opening?"

will probably catch my attention. Someone who puts effort is usually one who is a keeper. Even newbies can make good GMs.

Ok, going to bed now, I wanna see this a top 100 post for next year!

HolyCow98 · 01-24-2005, 10:17 PM

Yeah there is line, IMO, of someone who has played in OOTP online leagues before, and someone who has experience.

For me....I generally get recruited or referred to a league from outside this forum. If you have some experience...than you generally will have a number of people you've met and gotten to know. Those people are generally in other leagues as well. Alot of times when in opening opens up in one of their other leagues they look for people they know or feel will do a good job.

After awhile, you can go to just about any league and see familar names of people you either know or know of. There are alot of leagues out there that last 2 seasons or less...being in a handful of those types really doesn't get you too much experience. I've been lucky in that the majority of leagues I've been in or have joined have been around for 7-15 seasons.....and were very stable...had a history...and most importanly...solid leadership complimented with a solid core of GM's.

I think the best way to find a league you want to join....is waiting for the league to post that they have X amount of openings...and contacting them that way. For one reason, if you just post "Experienced GM looking for league", the first thought that pops into my head is that this person is perhaps too lazy to search and read through the leagues on the first page of the Online Forums. Lazy tendancies make me lean towards thinking lazy GM..which starts me thinking "potential" bad GM.

Some of the most energetic GM's are the newbies...which can really make in impact. In a nutshell...if you are experienced....just let the league you are interested in know what leagues you are in or have been in....if you are a newbie....just be honest....and show your interest.

HolyCow98 · 01-24-2005, 10:21 PM

The last application I received in one league was.....

"Interested in LA. Let me know."

No name...nothing...just 6 words.

Dagrims · 01-24-2005, 10:33 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyCow98

The last application I received in one league was.....

"Interested in LA. Let me know."

No name...nothing...just 6 words.

That was Hideo Nomo.

jazzrack · 01-24-2005, 10:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyCow98

The last application I received in one league was.....

"Interested in LA. Let me know."

No name...nothing...just 6 words.

i always wonder if i should bother replying to those

disposableheros · 01-24-2005, 10:44 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by HolyCow98

The last application I received in one league was.....

"Interested in LA. Let me know."

No name...nothing...just 6 words.

LA Angels or Dodgers?

rem · 01-24-2005, 10:49 PM

or doders

rem · 01-24-2005, 10:50 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MogulChamp

Well as I am one of the people who posted a thread of this nature. I can at least speak for myself. Personally...I don't like sifting through all 30 pages of posts to maybe find a good league, especially when what I am looking for is pretty precise.
That's my take on the whole "experienced GM's looking for leagues thread complaint"

Interesting. I read 95% of them despite usually have no intention of joining one.

Matteo · 01-24-2005, 11:16 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by MogulChamp

Well as I am one of the people who posted a thread of this nature. I can at least speak for myself. Personally...I don't like sifting through all 30 pages of posts to maybe find a good league, especially when what I am looking for is pretty precise.
That's my take on the whole "experienced GM's looking for leagues thread complaint"

I also think this is a interesting take.

It is more important for you to find a league that fits you than it is for a league to find you.
I would always look for league I want into rather than getting asked. It is like buying a car: do you say I need a car make me some offers, or do you go after the car you really like....

Of course, just my .02$

tward13 · 01-24-2005, 11:21 PM

Or in my case this time, I find myself with some more OOTP time available. I want to maybe try something different than what I usually play in, so I post something here, specifically looking for a certain kind of league. The kind of league that maybe the GMs I know from my historical leagues, may not play in (so no suggestions or offers)

Then what happens, a Commish from a solid longtime league sees I have free time and offers to let me have the next opening in his league. I then check and realize I know a lot of those guys, so sure, put me on the list.

Wouldn't have happened if I hadn't posted on this forum.

rem · 01-24-2005, 11:24 PM

Well, actually...you were on my invite list but......

MogulChamp · 01-24-2005, 11:26 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by remangiii

Interesting. I read 95% of them despite usually have no intention of joining one.

I do too, and have only found 2 leagues that have what I am looking for...Please help me find more. The big problem? It's a pain in the ass to sift through endless waivers on a message board. That's the only reason why I actually had to make a post.

Oh well, if it bothers you that people would like to join a league, and you feel they are inexperienced because they do not fall into your criteria of an "experienced gm" then I guess I'm not. However, IMO, an experienced GM is one who wins consistently and has nothing to do with the fact that they are a good message board browser...

Or...maybe they try to avoid the boards for fear of getting flamed.

01-24-2005, 09:44 PM	#1
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	My take on the experienced GM threads OK, I see many experienced GM threads. Been with OOTP since version.....blah blah blah. Looking for a good league. Well most of the good leagues don't have to look thru these experienced GM threads. Your best bet, if you are good, is to research. See who has been around for a long time. Scour thier forums, history, etc to see if they are an active league and one you may want to join. Check owners page to see the who's who and get references if you need em. There are a lot of ambitious commishes that start up leagues that last maybe a few seasons. But there are those who have been around for a 2 or more real time years now. Ahh I am just rambling, time to shut up!

01-24-2005, 09:45 PM	#2
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	I know first hand that many experienced GM's do not have the good kind of experience. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

01-24-2005, 09:45 PM	#3
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	and how come I haven't heard of you before! I have been on these boards and looked at various leagues! Have you really been around that long? not you remanjii , the so called experienced ones Last edited by RBLwebguy; 01-24-2005 at 09:50 PM.

01-24-2005, 09:49 PM	#4
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	I have no idea whether or not you're serious. __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

01-24-2005, 10:17 PM	#10
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	Yeah there is line, IMO, of someone who has played in OOTP online leagues before, and someone who has experience. For me....I generally get recruited or referred to a league from outside this forum. If you have some experience...than you generally will have a number of people you've met and gotten to know. Those people are generally in other leagues as well. Alot of times when in opening opens up in one of their other leagues they look for people they know or feel will do a good job. After awhile, you can go to just about any league and see familar names of people you either know or know of. There are alot of leagues out there that last 2 seasons or less...being in a handful of those types really doesn't get you too much experience. I've been lucky in that the majority of leagues I've been in or have joined have been around for 7-15 seasons.....and were very stable...had a history...and most importanly...solid leadership complimented with a solid core of GM's. I think the best way to find a league you want to join....is waiting for the league to post that they have X amount of openings...and contacting them that way. For one reason, if you just post "Experienced GM looking for league", the first thought that pops into my head is that this person is perhaps too lazy to search and read through the leagues on the first page of the Online Forums. Lazy tendancies make me lean towards thinking lazy GM..which starts me thinking "potential" bad GM. Some of the most energetic GM's are the newbies...which can really make in impact. In a nutshell...if you are experienced....just let the league you are interested in know what leagues you are in or have been in....if you are a newbie....just be honest....and show your interest. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

01-24-2005, 09:52 PM	#5
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	always

01-24-2005, 10:02 PM	#7
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	Plus I am jealous that my threads don't generate more conversation thatn others, maybe I am ranting and reaching out! A cry for help!

01-24-2005, 10:09 PM	#8
MogulChamp All Star Reserve Join Date: Aug 2004 Posts: 656	Well as I am one of the people who posted a thread of this nature. I can at least speak for myself. Personally...I don't like sifting through all 30 pages of posts to maybe find a good league, especially when what I am looking for is pretty precise. That's my take on the whole "experienced GM's looking for leagues thread complaint"

01-24-2005, 10:14 PM	#9
RBLwebguy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Canuckistan Posts: 5,162	I probably shouldn't rag on everyone who posts those, but I feel a GM who seeks me out and gives me a solid application with more than the following: "dude, you got an opening?" will probably catch my attention. Someone who puts effort is usually one who is a keeper. Even newbies can make good GMs. Ok, going to bed now, I wanna see this a top 100 post for next year!

01-24-2005, 10:21 PM	#11
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	The last application I received in one league was..... "Interested in LA. Let me know." No name...nothing...just 6 words. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

01-24-2005, 10:49 PM	#15
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	or doders __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0

01-24-2005, 11:21 PM	#18
tward13 All Star Starter Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 1,964	Or in my case this time, I find myself with some more OOTP time available. I want to maybe try something different than what I usually play in, so I post something here, specifically looking for a certain kind of league. The kind of league that maybe the GMs I know from my historical leagues, may not play in (so no suggestions or offers) Then what happens, a Commish from a solid longtime league sees I have free time and offers to let me have the next opening in his league. I then check and realize I know a lot of those guys, so sure, put me on the list. Wouldn't have happened if I hadn't posted on this forum.

01-24-2005, 11:24 PM	#19
rem Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: College Park, Md. Posts: 5,024	Well, actually...you were on my invite list but...... __________________ OTBA: Washington Filibusters CLBR: Minnesota Twins 2005 Winner of LL's Pick the Loser Contest! - 15-0