Jandergadt in trouble again?

Anachronism · 01-12-2005, 11:23 AM

http://www.indystar.com/articles/0/208754-9580-036.html

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Originally Posted by Vaderjagt

I think they're ripe for the picking. I think they're not as good as the beginning of the year -- not as good as last year -- and I think they're beatable. You know, we have to play well, there's no doubt about that.

This is the quote that has the media jumping all over Vanderjagt this morning.

My question is, why?

Why is it so terrible to show confidence in your team? I know that people talk about "bulletin board material" - but come on! This is a harmless statement from a guy confident in his team, and the media is making himout to be some kind of pariah!

Man... I wonder what the media would do if Muhammad Ali was still boxing today. Part of his draw were his little poems about taking guys down...

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Originally Posted by Ali

Frazier is so ugly he should donate his face to the US Bureau of Wild Life."

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Originally Posted by Ali

I am the astronaut of boxing. Joe Louis and Dempsey were just jet pilots. I'm in a world of my own

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Originally Posted by Ali

I'm not the greatest; I'm the double greatest. Not only do I knock 'em out, I pick the round.

The media should just put their pens down and keep their yaps shut for a change. let the players between the lines deal with the comments... they are capable of handling it themselves as Tedy Bruschi illustrates with his answer to Vanderjagt..

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Originally Posted by Tedy

You're asking me to comment on what a kicker said?

Good one Tedy....

Dagrims · 01-12-2005, 11:30 AM

Vanderjagt.

It's comical to think that the Patriots were not going to go all out and try their best to win the game, but now that the kicker for the Colts said something, they will give a complete effort.

Anachronism · 01-12-2005, 11:47 AM

In related news... Here's the latest PR shot of the Indy kicker...

KILLERBS24 · 01-12-2005, 02:21 PM

God forbid someone think their team is good enough to win! All he did was tell the truth and not be PC. The media is pathetic and cant create thoughtful and insightful stories, all they can do is make tabloid headlines out of nothing. 99% of the sports writers/broadcasters are a joke, and this is the best they can come up with.

Gastric ReFlux · 01-12-2005, 02:28 PM

He's a JUGGERNAUT that's for sure! I often dream of being a juggernaut.

Anachronism · 01-12-2005, 02:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagrims

Vanderjagt.

You know.. that's the first I noticed that I put "J"s through out that post instead of "V"s... what the hell happened there?

Man... that's the last time I stay up with WoW until almost 2, knowing I have to get up at 5:30 for work....

Gastric ReFlux · 01-12-2005, 02:31 PM

You though are not a spelling juggernaut.

rudel.dietrich · 01-12-2005, 02:53 PM

God I miss Ali. Those quotes are hilarious. Now it's all about good sportmanship

CMH · 01-12-2005, 03:34 PM

It's the NFL and it's the media.

When you mix the two together you get stories about nothing being drawn out into something incredible.

ChuckB · 01-12-2005, 04:12 PM

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Originally Posted by KILLERBS24

God forbid someone think their team is good enough to win! All he did was tell the truth and not be PC. The media is pathetic and cant create thoughtful and insightful stories, all they can do is make tabloid headlines out of nothing. 99% of the sports writers/broadcasters are a joke, and this is the best they can come up with.

His confidence isn't the point. He's a kicker, he's not out there on the front lines. He's basically relying on his teammates to prove out his statements; he's not doing it himself. Ali talking is one thing -- he's stepping into the ring and taking the beating or dishing it out. But Bruschi said it best: "You want me to comment on what a kicker said?"

As for the media, it's their job to sell papers, to make ratings, to get people to read/watch what they're saying. Don't blame them because people like to read that stuff. Blame the people that read that stuff.

Dagrims · 01-12-2005, 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Anachronism

You know.. that's the first I noticed that I put "J"s through out that post instead of "V"s... what the hell happened there?

Man... that's the last time I stay up with WoW until almost 2, knowing I have to get up at 5:30 for work....

I sympathize with you (I busted out Civ III Conquests and was up until 1:00), but I'm still going to mention that the way you have the last four letters of his name spelled is still crazy.

IatricSB · 01-12-2005, 04:22 PM

I heard a sound clip this morning of an opposing player who called him by the name "Vanderjerk". Anybody hear it and know who it was?

disposableheros · 01-12-2005, 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by IatricSB

I heard a sound clip this morning of an opposing player who called him by the name "Vanderjerk". Anybody hear it and know who it was?

Rodney Harrison

http://cbs.sportsline.com/nfl/story/8090057

The Funk · 01-12-2005, 09:32 PM

Vanderjerk, damn that's witty!

Le Grande Orange · 01-12-2005, 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by ChuckB

His confidence isn't the point. He's a kicker, he's not out there on the front lines. He's basically relying on his teammates to prove out his statements; he's not doing it himself.

He sure as heck is doing it himself if his team is relying on him to kick a 50 yard field goal into the wind to win a game.

No one likes to think much about the kickers, but rest assured if they muff an important punt or blow an easy chip shot field goal, they sure as heck will get the grief for it from their teammates and coaches.

Dargone · 01-12-2005, 11:03 PM

I think that's a good quote. He's not being an a$$hat at all...

01-12-2005, 11:30 AM	#2
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	Vanderjagt. It's comical to think that the Patriots were not going to go all out and try their best to win the game, but now that the kicker for the Colts said something, they will give a complete effort. __________________ "Read books, get brain."

01-12-2005, 11:47 AM	#3
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01-12-2005, 02:21 PM	#4
KILLERBS24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 938	God forbid someone think their team is good enough to win! All he did was tell the truth and not be PC. The media is pathetic and cant create thoughtful and insightful stories, all they can do is make tabloid headlines out of nothing. 99% of the sports writers/broadcasters are a joke, and this is the best they can come up with. __________________ Asterisked legacy: Barry Bonds, the greatest steroid user ever

01-12-2005, 04:22 PM	#12
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	I heard a sound clip this morning of an opposing player who called him by the name "Vanderjerk". Anybody hear it and know who it was? __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

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The Funk All Star Reserve Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: Watford Posts: 903	Vanderjerk, damn that's witty! __________________ Talkin' 'bout the issues but keepin' it funky!

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Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	He's a JUGGERNAUT that's for sure! I often dream of being a juggernaut.

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Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	You though are not a spelling juggernaut.

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rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	God I miss Ali. Those quotes are hilarious. Now it's all about good sportmanship

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CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	It's the NFL and it's the media. When you mix the two together you get stories about nothing being drawn out into something incredible.

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Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	I think that's a good quote. He's not being an a$$hat at all... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell