#7 for Bonds

IatricSB · 11-15-2004, 03:46 PM

http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3165710

Associated Press
Posted: 6 minutes ago

Barry Bonds won his record seventh NL MVP award in a walk.

Capping a season of suspicion and success, the San Francisco Giants left fielder became the oldest player to win the award. The 40-year-old received 24 first-place votes and 407 points Monday in balloting by the Baseball Writers' Association of America to earn the award for the fourth straight season.

Los Angeles third baseman Adrian Beltre was second, getting six first-place votes and 311 points, and St. Louis first baseman Albert Pujols was third with one first and 247 points. St. Louis third baseman Scott Rolen got the other first-place vote and finished fourth, followed by teammate Jim Edmonds.

Bonds is the only player with more than three MVP awards and the only one to win more than two in a row. Willie Stargell was previously the oldest to win it, sharing the 1979 NL award with Keith Hernandez at 39 1/2.

Among the four major North American professional sports, he trails only the NHL's Wayne Gretzky, who won nine MVPs. In the NBA, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar leads with six.

Barry Bonds won his seventh NL MVP Award Monday. He led the league in hitting and was among the leaders in several other categories. (Donald Miralle / GettyImages)

Bonds became only the third player to hit 700 career homers, and with 703 trails only Hank Aaron (755) and Babe Ruth (714). But following his grand jury testimony in a federal investigation, he repeatedly was questioned whether he used steroids.

His personal trainer has been indicted for illegal distribution of steroids, but Bonds has denied using illegal steroids.

Bonds' season was unparalleled statistically. He hit .362 to win his second NL batting title in three seasons and shattered the major league record with a .609 on-base percentage, topping the previous mark of .582 he set two years ago.

He walked 232 times, 34 more than the previous record he set in 2002 and more than 100 better than anyone else in baseball this season, and his 120 intentional walks obliterated the old mark of 68, also set by Bonds in 2002.

Bonds' .812 slugging percentage led the major leagues for the fourth straight season but fell short of the record he set at .863 in 2001. He hit 45 homers and matched Aaron's NL record of eight 40-homer seasons, trailing only Ruth's major league mark of 11. He also became the first player in major league history with 13 consecutive 30-homer seasons.

Bonds earned a $500,000 bonus for winning the award, and Beltre, Edmonds, Pujols and Rolen earned bonuses of $50,000 each.

rudel.dietrich · 11-15-2004, 03:54 PM

Wonder who didn't vote him for first?

I like how they still give it to him even though this is his 3th in a row.
A player deserves the award no matter how many he has won in a row.
Mickey Mantle could of almost swept the entire decade of the 50's but didn't because they did not want to give it to the same player over and over.
I don't think that is right.

bulldog55 · 11-15-2004, 04:26 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldog55

Should we give the award to Bonds or Balco? But seriously folks, I heard the Cream makes a great trophy polish.

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benchwarmer · 11-15-2004, 05:08 PM

Take ALL of Barry Bonds hits away this season and just count his walks as hits instead, and his OBP would be higher then the player who lead the NL in hits, Juan Pierre.

Barry Bonds had 250 fewer ABs then Beltre, Rolen and Pujols, but yet had better, or at very least comparable numbers.

Anyone in there right mind HAS to award Barry Bonds the NL MVP!

Green & Gold Heart · 11-15-2004, 05:14 PM

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Originally Posted by benchwarmer

Anyone in there right mind HAS to award Barry Bonds the NL MVP!

I agree. This guy has been intentionally walked with the bases loaded. He is by far the scariest player in baseball and should be given the award based on scariness alone. The Giants suck without him.

UngratefulDead · 11-15-2004, 05:51 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldog55

Should we give the award to Bonds or Balco? But seriously folks, I heard the Cream makes a great trophy polish.

lol bonds is teh suck lol he is on 'roids omg lol brb

DaveDingman · 11-15-2004, 06:44 PM

Bonds abolutely should have won. He is a MONSTER at the plate and not to mention one of the most clutch players I have ever seen.

LivnLegend · 11-15-2004, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by DaveDingman

Bonds abolutely should have won. He is a MONSTER at the plate and not to mention one of the most clutch players I have ever seen.

Does this alias ever add anything worthwhile?

So the writers who left Rollen and Edmonds off their ballot completely must have been watching another sport. Likewise the voters who gave Smoltz a 5th place vote and Burnitz a 7th place vote. Actually, maybe all of the above were from the same guy.

bulldog55 · 11-15-2004, 07:25 PM

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Originally Posted by UngratefulDead

lol bonds is teh suck lol he is on 'roids omg lol brb

Glad to see you can be objective about it.

benchwarmer · 11-15-2004, 07:30 PM

[QUOTE=LivnLegend]Does this alias ever add anything worthwhile?QUOTE]

I think you know the answer...

Frankly, theres about 10 alais that i've seen that are constantly posting useless nonsense. Pretty annoying i'd say. However, thank god theres a ignore option!

lukster · 11-15-2004, 07:43 PM

couldn't have happen to a nicer guy.

cheers
lukster

Knox · 11-15-2004, 08:04 PM

I was glad to see Berkman and Beltran get some love from the voters!
Bonds deserved it 100%

Skipaway · 11-15-2004, 08:14 PM

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Originally Posted by LivnLegend

Does this alias ever add anything worthwhile?

So the writers who left Rollen and Edmonds off their ballot completely must have been watching another sport. Likewise the voters who gave Smoltz a 5th place vote and Burnitz a 7th place vote. Actually, maybe all of the above were from the same guy.

I think some people just assume that since Bonds would win, they could have fun with the ballots.

I honestly believe some of the voters who didn't vote Bonds #1 actually believed Bonds to be #1 overall, but they just want to make sure Beltre/Pujols is going to get more points than Pujols/Beltre.

Same for those Smoltz #5 and Burnitz #7 ballots. These guys are probably just doing that on purpose so they can write some kind of funny article in the local papers.

Jason · 11-15-2004, 08:43 PM

Wonder which one of these guys will be the one leaving Bonds off the Hall of Fame ballot the first time he's eligible just to make sure he's not unanimous.

Lawley · 11-15-2004, 09:23 PM

HAHAHA I GET A REASON TO WEAR MY BONDS JERSEY...i havent been able to wear a lot of my baseball/football jerseys since they are all 49er...and Giants...Kent...Garcia for niners and barlow ect...BUT I GOTTA WEAR THE BONDS TOMORROW YAY.

Dargone · 11-15-2004, 09:35 PM

Like him or not, he's the best player of my generation...

attackemu · 11-15-2004, 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by LivnLegend

Does this alias ever add anything worthwhile?

So the writers who left Rollen and Edmonds off their ballot completely must have been watching another sport. Likewise the voters who gave Smoltz a 5th place vote and Burnitz a 7th place vote. Actually, maybe all of the above were from the same guy.

Ahem. Tracy Ringolsby. He's from Denver(thus explains the Burnitz vote) and he said a few weeks ago he'd vote Beltre-Bonds-Clemens on his ballot.

Skipaway · 11-15-2004, 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by attackemu

Ahem. Tracy Ringolsby. He's from Denver(thus explains the Burnitz vote) and he said a few weeks ago he'd vote Beltre-Bonds-Clemens on his ballot.

Well, just as I said, there are always writers who'd vote in a way that they can write "cool" stories.

Crapshoot · 11-15-2004, 11:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Dargone

Like him or not, he's the best player of the last 60 years at least...

Fixed..

markwookungfu · 11-15-2004, 11:43 PM

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Originally Posted by bulldog55

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How can you say this even though it has not been proven? Some people just willnot accept Bonds stats no matter what you tell them...

11-15-2004, 07:43 PM	#11
lukster Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: living large in the OC Posts: 284	couldn't have happen to a nicer guy. cheers lukster __________________ say hello to your new home run king- BARROID BONDS!! We save no souls We break no promises "I've got wood you could swing from." soxwin

11-15-2004, 08:04 PM	#12
Knox Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: Houston, Texas Posts: 65	I was glad to see Berkman and Beltran get some love from the voters! Bonds deserved it 100% __________________ NABL - Houston Astros

11-15-2004, 09:35 PM	#16
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	Like him or not, he's the best player of my generation... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

11-15-2004, 03:46 PM	#1
IatricSB Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: California Posts: 3,493	#7 for Bonds http://msn.foxsports.com/story/3165710 Associated Press Posted: 6 minutes ago Barry Bonds won his record seventh NL MVP award in a walk. Capping a season of suspicion and success, the San Francisco Giants left fielder became the oldest player to win the award. The 40-year-old received 24 first-place votes and 407 points Monday in balloting by the Baseball Writers' Association of America to earn the award for the fourth straight season. Los Angeles third baseman Adrian Beltre was second, getting six first-place votes and 311 points, and St. Louis first baseman Albert Pujols was third with one first and 247 points. St. Louis third baseman Scott Rolen got the other first-place vote and finished fourth, followed by teammate Jim Edmonds. Bonds is the only player with more than three MVP awards and the only one to win more than two in a row. Willie Stargell was previously the oldest to win it, sharing the 1979 NL award with Keith Hernandez at 39 1/2. Among the four major North American professional sports, he trails only the NHL's Wayne Gretzky, who won nine MVPs. In the NBA, Kareem Abdul-Jabbar leads with six. Barry Bonds won his seventh NL MVP Award Monday. He led the league in hitting and was among the leaders in several other categories. (Donald Miralle / GettyImages) Bonds became only the third player to hit 700 career homers, and with 703 trails only Hank Aaron (755) and Babe Ruth (714). But following his grand jury testimony in a federal investigation, he repeatedly was questioned whether he used steroids. His personal trainer has been indicted for illegal distribution of steroids, but Bonds has denied using illegal steroids. Bonds' season was unparalleled statistically. He hit .362 to win his second NL batting title in three seasons and shattered the major league record with a .609 on-base percentage, topping the previous mark of .582 he set two years ago. He walked 232 times, 34 more than the previous record he set in 2002 and more than 100 better than anyone else in baseball this season, and his 120 intentional walks obliterated the old mark of 68, also set by Bonds in 2002. Bonds' .812 slugging percentage led the major leagues for the fourth straight season but fell short of the record he set at .863 in 2001. He hit 45 homers and matched Aaron's NL record of eight 40-homer seasons, trailing only Ruth's major league mark of 11. He also became the first player in major league history with 13 consecutive 30-homer seasons. Bonds earned a $500,000 bonus for winning the award, and Beltre, Edmonds, Pujols and Rolen earned bonuses of $50,000 each. __________________ Life is not a journey to the grave with the intention of arriving safely in a pretty and well preserved body; but rather to skid in broadside, thoroughly used up, totally worn out, and loudly proclaiming, "Wow! What a Ride!" Chicago(N) - Boys of Summer Oakland - 20th Century League Bakersfield - Wild Things Brooklyn - QBA Dodge City - NBSL California - ABC Dodger's Senioriest fan on the OOTP Boards

11-15-2004, 03:54 PM	#2
rudel.dietrich Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Zürich, Switzerland Posts: 8,608	Wonder who didn't vote him for first? I like how they still give it to him even though this is his 3th in a row. A player deserves the award no matter how many he has won in a row. Mickey Mantle could of almost swept the entire decade of the 50's but didn't because they did not want to give it to the same player over and over. I don't think that is right.

11-15-2004, 05:08 PM	#4
benchwarmer Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 1,461	Take ALL of Barry Bonds hits away this season and just count his walks as hits instead, and his OBP would be higher then the player who lead the NL in hits, Juan Pierre. Barry Bonds had 250 fewer ABs then Beltre, Rolen and Pujols, but yet had better, or at very least comparable numbers. Anyone in there right mind HAS to award Barry Bonds the NL MVP!

11-15-2004, 06:44 PM	#7
DaveDingman Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Nov 2004 Posts: 26	Bonds abolutely should have won. He is a MONSTER at the plate and not to mention one of the most clutch players I have ever seen. __________________ Texans rule and so do their sports!

11-15-2004, 07:30 PM	#10
benchwarmer Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 1,461	[QUOTE=LivnLegend]Does this alias ever add anything worthwhile?QUOTE] I think you know the answer... Frankly, theres about 10 alais that i've seen that are constantly posting useless nonsense. Pretty annoying i'd say. However, thank god theres a ignore option!

11-15-2004, 08:43 PM	#14
Jason Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Posts: 3,847	Wonder which one of these guys will be the one leaving Bonds off the Hall of Fame ballot the first time he's eligible just to make sure he's not unanimous.

11-15-2004, 09:23 PM	#15
Lawley Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2003 Location: Cali/Montana Posts: 381	HAHAHA I GET A REASON TO WEAR MY BONDS JERSEY...i havent been able to wear a lot of my baseball/football jerseys since they are all 49er...and Giants...Kent...Garcia for niners and barlow ect...BUT I GOTTA WEAR THE BONDS TOMORROW YAY.