Injured player hits HR against my team

[Filthy Slider]

Well, I read through every title in this folder and, though I thought I'd seen something already posted about this bug, I couldn't find anything that seemed to possibly cover this one (sorry if I simply missed it somewhere..this seems like something that would be noticed by now)...

A player from another team (in a solo career manager mode league) made headline news on June 17 with a broken foot. He dove to catch a ball, the story said, broke his foot, and will miss 11 weeks.

I just played against his team on June 26 (of the same season as the injury). I usually pay pretty close attention to what is happening in the games I play, but it was the first batter of the game and to get things underway I pitched to him without bothering to check and see who it was (first game of the series with that team)...gave up a HR on that AB...looked at that player's photo..recognized him...did some checking during and then again after the game:
the computer team had never (according to their team transactions report) placed him on the DL.
That team does list him as out for 11 weeks in their team injury report
His 11 week injury IS listed on his player page in the history window
He has continued to play since the day he was "injured"...is even 2nd in the league in HR's.
..........................
a footnote?: Maybe it was because almost no one ever actually breaks their foot by diving for a ball and the computer thought about it after it reported it and said to itself: "aw, that's silly, no one breaks their foot that way...lets just pretend that didn't happen"

[Filthy Slider]

I just noticed that the same thing has happened to two other players with injuries that made the headlines in the news section.

In fact, there have been 3 total injuries that have made it to the news section headlines since June 1 of the season...each of those 3 continued to play after the day after the injury occurred and had the same features as those listed in the above example.

There were 2 players that had made injury headlines before June 1, the second of which was on May 30.
In both of those cases the injured player did not play (as shown in the 'game-by-game statistics of the player for the amount of time that the injury was supposed to be).

I haven't yet checked all other injuries on other teams [non-news-headline injuries] to see if they have been handled correctly throughout the season, but will do that when I can get to it later this evening.

There IS one thing that now stands out to me about May 30 and I'm beginning to wonder if its somehow related:
I did a little bit of schedule editing on May 30 of the season for upcoming games in June...it was not a lot of editing, about 3 games in all were moved to different dates...is there some way that this could have produced the results mentioned in these posts?

[Filthy Slider]

The reason I remember that it was May 30 of the season that I had edited the schedule is because I had wanted to make all modifications to the schedule for June before the computer AI scheduled its promos for that month.

In days before May 30 of the season I HAD ALSO done schedule editing, but had only edited games for the month that was currently active (i.e. that the computer had scheduled promos for already) and, as was noted above, the players that were injured in those months that made the headlines in the news section (which happened only in May) were, in fact, placed on the DL and did not play during the duration of their injury time.

[Filthy Slider]

went through every injury of the season in league injury news

checked to make sure that players did not play (as listed in the game-by-game stats section of their individual player page) during the time span of the listed injury...did this only for players hurt on active roster, but did a few random checks on minor league injuries too

only injuries that required time off and day-to-day injuries that should still be effective on June 30 of the season could be checked since players frequently do end up playing during the days in which they are on day-to-day status.

FINDINGS:
2 other injuries that did not 'register'...both were of the day-to-day type and should have been continuing on that status beyond June 30 but were listed in the game as "OK"...both of those injuries occurred on days in which there was a major headline in the news about a major injury which did not take effect in the game.

To be clearer, these were entries in the league injury report:

June 16:
F.Wooten (SL) out 6 weeks [was in the league news and was listed as
"OK" from June 17 on]
J.Franco (BOS) day-to-day with full recovery in 5 weeks
[as of June 30, listed as "OK" status]

June 17:
F.Cabilao (MIN) out 11 weeks [this is the player that hit that HR against
my team that got me to start this thread]
R.Janik (SL) out 7 weeks [has not played since June 17 and as of June 30
is still listed as injured...is on DL as expected]

June 29:
N.Tune (FLA) out 5 weeks [news headline for June 29, as of June 30 listed
as status "OK"]
F.Mariscal (CHI) day-to-day with full recovery in 2 weeks [as of June 30
listed as status "OK"]
M.Ortiz (KC) out 5 weeks [as of June 30 is listed as "out 5 weeks" and is
on DL as expected]

So, it appears that the day-to-day injuries occuring on the day of a newsworthy injury are not being registered while injuries that involve complete time off that happen on the day of a newsworthy injury (except that of the newsmaking injury itself) are being handled properly by the game.

All other injuries that were checked from the legue injury news report were handled properly by the game.

Also, it is of note that there were, in fact, other injuries (all of which were handled properly by the game and did not occur on days of newsmaking injuries) that occurred between the dates of June 17 and June 29.

Well, that's what I've come up with...
For now I just went and used the manager mode editing utility and made all those above players that should have been injured begin 'serving their injury time' starting June 30...and, I will just keep checking the league injury news each day.

[Filthy Slider]

....checked each individual team's injury news reports for the three dates of the season mentioned above: June 16, June 17, June 29...to see if any minor league injuries were handled correctly by the game on those days.

It turns out that there were two (non day-to-day) injuries in the minor leagues on those days and that those two injuries were handled correctly by the game...there were a couple of minor league day-to-day injuries but those have all expired by June 30 so there is no way to see if those were correctly handled.

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July 3, 2008:
NY: Pedro Villamil was injured while running the bases.
Diagnosis: Torn Abdominal Muscle.
He is out for about 6 weeks.
OAK: Thomas Salazar was injured while running the bases.
Diagnosis: Torn Thigh Muscle.
He is definitely out for the season!

[courtesy: League injury news file]

so, I checked both players and to my happy surprise they are still hurt
and are being correctly handled by the game.
So, either:
a) July is better than June for press agencies
b) Two injuries are better than one
c) I am a fish that is dreaming
d) none and/or all of the above

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Dateline: Florida, July 5, 2008
League news reports:
Florida's centerfielder Lyle Laplant will miss at least 5 weeks after he got hurt seriously while running hard toward second base. He began limping and then fell down, causing a scary moment for his teammates. He had to be carried off the field. After x-rays were taken the diagnosis did not surprise many: Pulled Calf Muscle. Surgery [must be outpatient surgery...see below] will be performed next week. [probably that new 'artificial calf muscle transplant' technique]
Laplant has hit... [continues to summarize his season then ends]

But, the league injury report says:
FLA: Lyle Laplant was injured while running the bases.
Diagnosis: Pulled Calf Muscle.
He is day-to-day, but full recovery will take 5 weeks.

And, his status (on his player page..and his effective playing status) is also, day-to-day (90% effectiveness) with full recovery in 5 weeks.

Clearly, this must be a case of the reactionary nature and hype of network news.

[Normally, since it is *just* a news story that is a little off base here, I would not bother to make this post about Lyle Laplant's incredibly fast healing lower leg...but, it seems to be a part of the whole package of news related injury mishaps in accuracy in this ootp 6 season which may be the signs of a bug in how the news reporting of injuries is currently dealt with in the game...as such, I wanted to give as much info as can be relevant so that the the bug might have a better chance of being found]

[If you think all these 'injury news bug' posts are bad, you should have to be my doctor sitting through my describing my symptoms for having come down with a bug in the wintertime]

[Filthy Slider]

Finally had an injury that has not registered (he is on OK status the day after the injury) correctly in the game that did not occur on the day of major news headline.
Bill Loman of Pittsburg is supposed to be day-to-day for the next 4 weeks, but he is listed as 'OK'.

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In latest injury news:
SF: Branden Zick Zick was injured in a collision at home plate.
Diagnosis: Bruised Cheekbone.
He is out for about 2 weeks.
PIT: Clemente Rivas was injured while running the bases.
Diagnosis: Broken Foot.
He will be OK in about 6 weeks.

And, Rivas, it turns out, has the status of 'out 6 weeks'....but,
Zick, has the status of OK...
and, neither story made league news headlines

I feel fortunate to have that manager mode editor where at least I can go in and change things...but, I do also hope that this issue (unless its just something with my league) can be addressed in the future...thanks

[as the initial pattern that seemed to be occurring: correspondence between league news headline about an injury and injuries on those days not being handled properly....as it now seems that those are not the only times when the injuries are incorrectly handled: this will, I think be my last post to this particular thread... The End

[remington]

Out of curiosity, you aren't escaping out of OOTP during days in which the injury(ies) occured without saving (ie. killing off the process) and then replaying the day?

I haven't seen any weirdness like this, although, I never pay much attention to injuries other than my own team.

[Filthy Slider]

nope.
good thought though, that would've helped explain things....but, that hasn't been it.......thanks for the feedback on the topic

[beldvd]

Is he named Kirk Gibson ?

[clutch]

It might be because of the editing. If you simmed ahead and then recovered from a back-up, the HTML would be updated but the Dat files would be back to before the Back-up. What was the date on the injury page? Was it a date you hadn't simmed yet. Check the game log. See if it shows up there. Is the player Red on the Transaction Screen?