NL Champion Getting Double-Screwed!

Erik W. · 10-20-2004, 09:50 PM

OK, we already know about the AL having home field in the Series because of that stupid All Star Game bull****...

But now, no matter who wins the pair of game 7's, the AL team has a distinct advantage because they get an extra day off that the NL team won't have. That's a pretty hefty advantage when you consider that all four teams have battered pitching staffs right now.

Who scheduled this ****?

mauboy · 10-20-2004, 09:53 PM

Not to mention if the cards do win, they'll have the best record in baseball and playing less games at home.

That's the way she goes. Thank Selig for that one.

Spielman · 10-20-2004, 11:20 PM

I honestly don't have a problem with the All-Star game thing.

Really, how is it worse to wind up giving your opponent home-field because your league lost the All-Star game than to have it happen because it was an even year?

Both are random and screwy.

-Spielman

Dargone · 10-20-2004, 11:24 PM

^^^^^^^Agreed, it should be best record...

andymac · 10-20-2004, 11:27 PM

Best record isn't a very good determinant either, the two teams play completely different schedules. I have no problem with the way it is now.

kingcharlesxii · 10-20-2004, 11:29 PM

The extra off-day would bother me far more than the home-field advantage thing. Maybe the team that doesn't get home-field gets the extra off day in the future? That would balance things out a bit I'd think.

andymac · 10-20-2004, 11:30 PM

What night is the World Series scheduled to begin?

Erik W. · 10-20-2004, 11:33 PM

I don't think they've officially said, but I'm betting Saturday.

So, Yankees/Sox get 2 full days of rest, Cards/Astros get 1.

Edit: Yup, Saturday. McCarver just make a mention of it.

Akrobat · 10-20-2004, 11:36 PM

Game 1: Saturday
Game 2: Sunday
Game 3: Tuesday
Game 4: Wednesday
Game 5: Thursday
Game 6: Saturday
Game 7: Sunday

andymac · 10-20-2004, 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Azamien

I don't think they've officially said, but I'm betting Saturday.

So, Yankees/Sox get 2 full days of rest, Cards/Astros get 1.

If this is the case, then the NL champion is definately getting screwed a little bit because they will be rushed to get to the American league city. If the series doesn't start until Sunday or later then I'm not sure there is much of a disadvantage for the NL team.

AngelinOF · 10-20-2004, 11:48 PM

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Originally Posted by Akrobat

Game 1: Saturday
Game 2: Sunday
Game 3: Tuesday
Game 4: Wednesday
Game 5: Thursday
Game 6: Saturday
Game 7: Sunday

Yep they have used this same schedule for a quite a few years, regardless of when the LCS's end the WS would begin a week later on Saturday. And the interesting thing is that if there is a game 7 this year it will be on October 31st.

UngratefulDead · 10-21-2004, 12:25 AM

What is this "National League" you speak of?

Le Grande Orange · 10-21-2004, 02:03 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azamien

But now, no matter who wins the pair of game 7's, the AL team has a distinct advantage because they get an extra day off that the NL team won't have.

Not really, because the AL and NL LCS series dates are locked in before the playoffs even begin, as are the WS dates, so short of several days of rain in a row postponing games, teams know well in advance what their schedule is.

You should note also that the LCS schedules are alternated each year, so while the NL gets less rest before the WS this year, next year it'll be the AL, and so on. The dates in the LCS are staggered for television purposes.

Xenimus0 · 10-21-2004, 02:06 AM

Don't forget that one of the ALCS games was postponed due to weather.

Le Grande Orange · 10-21-2004, 02:09 AM

That didn't matter, as it was replayed on what would have been an off day otherwise.

Erik W. · 10-21-2004, 02:20 AM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

Not really, because the AL and NL LCS series dates are locked in before the playoffs even begin, as are the WS dates, so short of several days of rain in a row postponing games, teams know well in advance what their schedule is.

You should note also that the LCS schedules are alternated each year, so while the NL gets less rest before the WS this year, next year it'll be the AL, and so on. The dates in the LCS are staggered for television purposes.

It shouldn't matter. Every other sport can figure out how to put multiple playoff games into one day without pissing off fans and/or giving one team an advantage over another for television purposes, why can't the MLB?

AngelinOF · 10-21-2004, 02:23 AM

Yeah it made the Red Sox/Yankees play 5 straight games with no days off since the scheduled travel day was used to play game 5.

Le Grande Orange · 10-21-2004, 02:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azamien

It shouldn't matter. Every other sport can figure out how to put multiple playoff games into one day without pissing off fans and/or giving one team an advantage over another for television purposes, why can't the MLB?

And those other sports have way more playoff games to televise.

MLB wants those few games it has broadcast in prime time as much as is possible, and thus will stagger the starts so that there'll be a couple of days where there's only one game getting the prime time slot all to itself, rather than having to start one of a day's two games in the late afternoon.

Besides, if Houston or St. Louis had simply gotten its act together it could have finished its series early and had plenty of time off.

disposableheros · 10-21-2004, 06:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AngelinOF

Yeah it made the Red Sox/Yankees play 5 straight games with no days off since the scheduled travel day was used to play game 5.

travel days are kinda meaningless since were talking boston/new york and not new york/anaheim

ptoo · 10-21-2004, 06:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Azamien

OK, we already know about the AL having home field in the Series because of that stupid All Star Game bull****...

But now, no matter who wins the pair of game 7's, the AL team has a distinct advantage because they get an extra day off that the NL team won't have. That's a pretty hefty advantage when you consider that all four teams have battered pitching staffs right now.

Who scheduled this ****?

It was probably scheduled this way so that both game sevens (if they were necessary, which they were, which is rare) could be shown starting at 8:19 EDT or whatever the strange start time is.

That would be my guess anyway.

I kinda agree with what you say about the ASG determining home field advantage though. It places too much importance on what's basically been an exhibition game in the past (more of a "real" game though than the other sports' all star games). Either they should go back to the old system (alternating which league has home field advantage from year to year), or do what other sports do and give the team with the better record the advantage.

10-20-2004, 09:50 PM	#1
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	NL Champion Getting Double-Screwed! OK, we already know about the AL having home field in the Series because of that stupid All Star Game bull**... But now, no matter who wins the pair of game 7's, the AL team has a distinct advantage because they get an extra day off that the NL team won't have. That's a pretty hefty advantage when you consider that all four teams have battered pitching staffs right now. Who scheduled this **?

10-20-2004, 11:24 PM	#4
Dargone Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Interwebs Posts: 2,862	^^^^^^^Agreed, it should be best record... __________________ I was never one to patiently pick up broken fragments and glue them together again and tell myself that the mended whole was as good as new. What is broken is broken -- and I'd rather remember it as it was at its best than mend it and see the broken places as long as I lived.-Margaret Mitchell

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kingcharlesxii Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Madison, WI Posts: 2,730	The extra off-day would bother me far more than the home-field advantage thing. Maybe the team that doesn't get home-field gets the extra off day in the future? That would balance things out a bit I'd think. __________________ OTBA - Stockholm Royal Squirrels of Sweden OOTP Grand League Champion 2015

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andymac Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Effingham, IL Posts: 5,725	What night is the World Series scheduled to begin? __________________ June Madness: Links FTB: andymac

10-20-2004, 09:53 PM	#2
mauboy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2003 Location: Nashville, TN Posts: 2,906	Not to mention if the cards do win, they'll have the best record in baseball and playing less games at home. That's the way she goes. Thank Selig for that one.

10-20-2004, 11:20 PM	#3
Spielman All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: South Carolina Posts: 1,668	I honestly don't have a problem with the All-Star game thing. Really, how is it worse to wind up giving your opponent home-field because your league lost the All-Star game than to have it happen because it was an even year? Both are random and screwy. -Spielman

10-20-2004, 11:33 PM	#8
Erik W. Global Moderator Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Rivière-du-Loup, Qc Posts: 4,615	I don't think they've officially said, but I'm betting Saturday. So, Yankees/Sox get 2 full days of rest, Cards/Astros get 1. Edit: Yup, Saturday. McCarver just make a mention of it. Last edited by Erik W.; 10-20-2004 at 11:35 PM.

10-20-2004, 11:36 PM	#9
Akrobat All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 922	Game 1: Saturday Game 2: Sunday Game 3: Tuesday Game 4: Wednesday Game 5: Thursday Game 6: Saturday Game 7: Sunday

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UngratefulDead Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Bay Area Posts: 3,415	What is this "National League" you speak of?

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Xenimus0 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 250	Don't forget that one of the ALCS games was postponed due to weather.

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Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,644	That didn't matter, as it was replayed on what would have been an off day otherwise.

10-21-2004, 02:23 AM	#17
AngelinOF All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Kentucky Posts: 1,353	Yeah it made the Red Sox/Yankees play 5 straight games with no days off since the scheduled travel day was used to play game 5.