Why does Sim stop for players needing assignment?

fastnee · 10-16-2004, 02:43 PM

When simming a season, it will stop frequently because players on various teams (all computer controlled) need to be assigned or released, and nothing can progress until the player is moved. Why doesnt the computer handle this? Can I turn this notice off? Thanks.

dumrox · 12-22-2004, 11:18 AM

bumping this as it's happening to me now. Started a historical simmed season and went to bed. Checked results in the morning and the game hadn't gotten two weeks into the season before stopping to prompt me regarding releasing or assigning a player.

jbmagic · 12-22-2004, 11:23 AM

it happen to me also using lathman database current version

did you guys use that too?

Comedian2004 · 12-22-2004, 08:01 PM

I posted this a LONG time ago and everyone just kinda ignored me, being the newbie and all. This is what is getting me a little hissed. They are working on 7, but there are bugs like this in 6 that are not fixed. Correct me if i am wrong. Wasn't the wavier wire one of the NEW features in 6?

gmo · 12-22-2004, 08:31 PM

I saw this issue raised a while back, and it was part of the reason I was slow to change over from 6.03 to 6.11. But in the time I have run 6.11 on two different fictional leagues, I have not had this happen yet simming one day at time, though I tend to roll through days quickly.

My thinking was that the problem would occur when a player would get designated for assignment and placed on waivers, but the CPU team would repeated pull back the player from waivers when he was claimed until the DFA period was over and the team was stuck. Those who have had this problem - is that what seems to be occuring? It seems that 2 of the 4 mentions above are using historical leagues. Is there anything systematic about this?

jbmagic · 12-23-2004, 12:39 AM

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Originally Posted by gmo

I saw this issue raised a while back, and it was part of the reason I was slow to change over from 6.03 to 6.11. But in the time I have run 6.11 on two different fictional leagues, I have not had this happen yet simming one day at time, though I tend to roll through days quickly.

My thinking was that the problem would occur when a player would get designated for assignment and placed on waivers, but the CPU team would repeated pull back the player from waivers when he was claimed until the DFA period was over and the team was stuck. Those who have had this problem - is that what seems to be occuring? It seems that 2 of the 4 mentions above are using historical leagues. Is there anything systematic about this?

gmo

try it with lathman database current version playing a historical league, be sure to have waivers, player options, etc enabled and try simming a year..

that where i saw the problem with simming stopping and the only way to continue was correcting the computer roster...

and yes it had to do with player being left in the dfa box by the computer team and the dfa expired

jmm8356 · 12-23-2004, 04:20 AM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

and yes it had to do with player being left in the dfa box by the computer team and the dfa expired

But the question is... is the DFA time expiring because the AI is putting someone on waivers, then pulling them back when he is claimed? Check the affected team's Transaction News and see if the 'stuck' player is put on waivers within the previous 10 days (or whatever your DFA period is)... possibly repeatedly.

jbmagic · 12-23-2004, 04:50 AM

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Originally Posted by jmm8356

But the question is... is the DFA time expiring because the AI is putting someone on waivers, then pulling them back when he is claimed? Check the affected team's Transaction News and see if the 'stuck' player is put on waivers within the previous 10 days (or whatever your DFA period is)... possibly repeatedly.

i dont remember..i try it when the new lathman database version came out, but was so frustrated with ootp stopping the sim for me to fix the computer roster.

i stop doing the historical league

if you have time try it and you will see..

Merry Christmas

jmm8356 · 12-23-2004, 05:52 AM

Well, I think I can confirm gmo's hypothesis:

Quote:

Thursday 4/1/1989 :
Randy Nosek was placed on waivers and designated for assignment.
Friday 4/2/1989 :
P Randy Nosek was removed from waivers.
Saturday 4/3/1989 :
Randy Nosek was placed on waivers and designated for assignment.
Sunday 4/4/1989 :
P Randy Nosek was removed from waivers.
Monday 4/5/1989 :
Randy Nosek was placed on waivers and designated for assignment.
Tuesday 4/6/1989 :
P Randy Nosek was removed from waivers.
Wednesday 4/7/1989 :
Randy Nosek was placed on waivers and designated for assignment.
Thursday 4/8/1989 :
P Randy Nosek was removed from waivers.
Friday 4/9/1989 :
Randy Nosek was placed on waivers and designated for assignment.
Saturday 4/10/1989 :
P Randy Nosek was removed from waivers.

I think I may have an answer to "Why can't the AI just release these players itself?"... In historical leagues, there's this new option for "Allow computer teams to sign and release players" and it defaults to No...

... so if you tell the AI that it has to get waivers but that it can't release anyone, I can understand how it might get stuck.

I'll have to run another test with that option set at Yes to be sure...

EDIT: With "Allow computer teams to sign and release players" set to No, this behavior is repeatable for this historical league (1989), but I simmed a whole season with the setting at Yes with no errors or alerts. [Incidentially, Kevin Mitchell hit 68 homers... Ruth to Maris to Mitchell? What's wrong with this picture? Wasn't Mitchell the model for the players in Nintendo's RBI Baseball?

]

Anachronism · 12-23-2004, 10:58 AM

I too have just hit this in my online league running 6.11.

Here's the funny thing - we do not use Waivers.

BUT - when Robin Ventura refused assignment to the minors, we were given the option to place his on waivers (do you want to place the player on waivers?") se we did. Now, the sims is being held up for everyone as Robin's days on waivers have passed.

I'm sure all that needs to be done is for people to remove him from waivers in order to continue - but at the same time, why is that even an option when waivers are disabled?

jbmagic · 12-23-2004, 01:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jmm8356

Well, I think I can confirm gmo's hypothesis:
I think I may have an answer to "Why can't the AI just release these players itself?"... In historical leagues, there's this new option for "Allow computer teams to sign and release players" and it defaults to No...

hey thanks

i never notice they added that...that strange it set to NO as the default...

thanks for the fix

jbmagic · 12-23-2004, 01:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Anachronism

I too have just hit this in my online league running 6.11.

Here's the funny thing - we do not use Waivers.

BUT - when Robin Ventura refused assignment to the minors, we were given the option to place his on waivers (do you want to place the player on waivers?") se we did. Now, the sims is being held up for everyone as Robin's days on waivers have passed.

I'm sure all that needs to be done is for people to remove him from waivers in order to continue - but at the same time, why is that even an option when waivers are disabled?

you have waivers off, but DFA will still be Enabled..there no way to disable DFA...and if player is in the DFA box and DFA days expired it wont sim until that player is remove.

one of my online leagu made a rule, does not allow us to put players on the DFA box, if we do we get fine...

10-16-2004, 02:43 PM	#1
fastnee Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2003 Location: Las Vegas Posts: 4	Why does Sim stop for players needing assignment? When simming a season, it will stop frequently because players on various teams (all computer controlled) need to be assigned or released, and nothing can progress until the player is moved. Why doesnt the computer handle this? Can I turn this notice off? Thanks.

12-22-2004, 08:01 PM	#4
Comedian2004 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2004 Location: In a house in Saint Cloud, Florida. Posts: 7,085	I posted this a LONG time ago and everyone just kinda ignored me, being the newbie and all. This is what is getting me a little hissed. They are working on 7, but there are bugs like this in 6 that are not fixed. Correct me if i am wrong. Wasn't the wavier wire one of the NEW features in 6? __________________ Like BLUES? Visit www.smokestacklightnin.com, you will LOVE it! New show every Monday!! New Blues HOF![/COLOR][/FONT]

12-23-2004, 10:58 AM	#10
Anachronism All Star Reserve Join Date: Jul 2004 Location: Great White North Posts: 945	I too have just hit this in my online league running 6.11. Here's the funny thing - we do not use Waivers. BUT - when Robin Ventura refused assignment to the minors, we were given the option to place his on waivers (do you want to place the player on waivers?") se we did. Now, the sims is being held up for everyone as Robin's days on waivers have passed. I'm sure all that needs to be done is for people to remove him from waivers in order to continue - but at the same time, why is that even an option when waivers are disabled? __________________ "Ruth did it on Beer and Hotdogs..."

12-22-2004, 11:18 AM	#2
dumrox Minors (Double A) Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Tampa, FL Posts: 144	bumping this as it's happening to me now. Started a historical simmed season and went to bed. Checked results in the morning and the game hadn't gotten two weeks into the season before stopping to prompt me regarding releasing or assigning a player.

12-22-2004, 11:23 AM	#3
jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	it happen to me also using lathman database current version did you guys use that too?

12-22-2004, 08:31 PM	#5
gmo Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Longmont, CO Posts: 3,399	I saw this issue raised a while back, and it was part of the reason I was slow to change over from 6.03 to 6.11. But in the time I have run 6.11 on two different fictional leagues, I have not had this happen yet simming one day at time, though I tend to roll through days quickly. My thinking was that the problem would occur when a player would get designated for assignment and placed on waivers, but the CPU team would repeated pull back the player from waivers when he was claimed until the DFA period was over and the team was stuck. Those who have had this problem - is that what seems to be occuring? It seems that 2 of the 4 mentions above are using historical leagues. Is there anything systematic about this?