Roethlisberger

sixto · 09-20-2004, 09:25 AM

I enjoyed watching him play yesterday. He looks like a charismatic QB a la Favre to me. Not saying he's even 1/10 the QB Favre is, just that he showed the same sort of presence. And Favre, if you remember, basically brought back the pump fake when he started his career, and it seemed like Roethlisberger pump faked every pass.

Unfortunately for Steelers fans it looks like Cowher doesn't quite know what he has - or isn't interested - in Duce Staley. Staley should be catching more than one pass out of the backfield.

phenom · 09-20-2004, 09:26 AM

did he finally throw a pass yesterday? Weren't like the first seven plays runs after he came in?

Operation Shutdown · 09-20-2004, 09:39 AM

I think that was the point when the Steelers coaches realized that they hadn't been giving the ball to Duce the whole game. So they decide to do it in the fourth quarter when they're down by 16. Why they didn't give him more carries in the first half, I'll never know.

Though, back on topic, I think Roethlisberger looked pretty good, though I think the two interceptions pretty much prove that he hasn't quite learned the offensive system well enough quite yet. He probably has two or three weeks to learn it while on the job in order to keep Maddox on the bench when he's healthy again.

dougaiton · 09-20-2004, 09:51 AM

Pal of mine is a Miami of Ohio grad so I ended up watching some of the games last year and he looked pretty much the real deal. I would have liked to see him again at Miami this year, mind.

jjd · 09-20-2004, 10:05 AM

The kid has a cannon for an arm but knows when some touch is requirred. After he settled down a little bit, I think he looked pretty good. Of course he was throwing againsta pretty soft zone most of the 4th quarter.

I also don't think the 2nd INT was his fault. I think the reciever zigged when he was supposed to zag.

We will see today how long Big Ben gets to audition for next year. Maddox's arm was flopping like a rag doll when they showed that replay in slo-mo. Looked pretty bad to me...

dsvitak · 09-21-2004, 08:23 PM

I would like this kid to do well. The few interviews I have heard with him, he sounded pretty squared away...not the least bit arrogant.

jjd · 10-18-2004, 04:41 PM

I hate all of the Marino comparisons, but after 4 starts this kid looks pretty darn good.

A 125 QB rating in your 4th professional game ain't too shabby.

matskralc · 10-18-2004, 04:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sixto

Unfortunately for Steelers fans it looks like Cowher doesn't quite know what he has - or isn't interested - in Duce Staley. Staley should be catching more than one pass out of the backfield.

But...but...but...THAT'S NOT SMASHMOUTH BLUE-COLLAR FOOTBALL!!! Where's The Bus????????//

benchwarmer · 10-18-2004, 05:08 PM

I bet SD is kicking themselves in the a$$ right now!

Third and Long · 10-18-2004, 05:26 PM

Roethisberger is pretty good, but he's not proven he could wind up in the pro bowl this year and never throw for more than 100 yards next year.Rookies are so unpredictable.

Third and Long · 10-18-2004, 05:27 PM

and how the hell do you put a name like Roethlisberger on a jersey?

canadiancreed · 10-18-2004, 05:28 PM

Geeze I though this was a german thread. I miss out on football

Operation Shutdown · 10-18-2004, 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Third and Long

and how the hell do you put a name like Roethlisberger on a jersey?

I think the real question you should be asking is, how do you put a name like Boller on a jersey?

JDOldSchool · 10-19-2004, 04:10 AM

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Originally Posted by jjd

I hate all of the Marino comparisons, but after 4 starts this kid looks pretty darn good.

A 125 QB rating in your 4th professional game ain't too shabby.

I've seen Roethlisberger move around more in 4 games than Marino did in nearly 20 years. I'm hardly saying he's better than Marino (or could be or whatever), but I'm not sure the're very similar in style.

Erik W. · 10-19-2004, 05:15 AM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

I've seen Roethlisberger move around more in 4 games than Marino did in nearly 20 years. I'm hardly saying he's better than Marino (or could be or whatever), but I'm not sure the're very similar in style.

I've gotta agree, but then, I think Marino was a little overrated, as was Montana. Marino put up flashy numbers but couldn't win when it mattered, and Montana was a product of the system whose ultimate good trait was his clutchness, thus leading people to think he was much "greater" than he really was.

Of those in my lifetime:

1) Elway
2) Favre
3) Montana
4) Marino
5) Brady

Peyton would already be on that list if he could just learn how to win the big game. Warner if he had been good for longer than three seasons (although he does look pretty good this year, if not what he was in the StL glory days). Brady is on there because the guy just knows how to win, period, even if his numbers aren't HOF material yet.

Sorry to derail the thread. I just like to mention Elway as being #1 anytime the opportunity shows itself.

EagleEye_0 · 10-19-2004, 05:26 AM

I said it back in April. Big Ben would be the best of the 2004 draft quaterbacks. I also said Leftwich would be the best from last year.

cooper_gd · 10-19-2004, 07:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Azamien

I've gotta agree, but then, I think Marino was a little overrated, as was Montana. Marino put up flashy numbers but couldn't win when it mattered, and Montana was a product of the system whose ultimate good trait was his clutchness, thus leading people to think he was much "greater" than he really was.

Of those in my lifetime:

1) Elway
2) Favre
3) Montana
4) Marino
5) Brady

Peyton would already be on that list if he could just learn how to win the big game. Warner if he had been good for longer than three seasons (although he does look pretty good this year, if not what he was in the StL glory days). Brady is on there because the guy just knows how to win, period, even if his numbers aren't HOF material yet.

Sorry to derail the thread. I just like to mention Elway as being #1 anytime the opportunity shows itself.

OMFG TS should be shut down.

cooper_gd · 10-19-2004, 07:09 AM

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Originally Posted by sixto

I enjoyed watching him play yesterday. He looks like a charismatic QB a la Favre to me. Not saying he's even 1/10 the QB Favre is, just that he showed the same sort of presence. And Favre, if you remember, basically brought back the pump fake when he started his career, and it seemed like Roethlisberger pump faked every pass.

Unfortunately for Steelers fans it looks like Cowher doesn't quite know what he has - or isn't interested - in Duce Staley. Staley should be catching more than one pass out of the backfield.

6, hate to jump your thread, but Cowher, love or hate? There was a time when I loved the guy, but I'm starting to wonder if he's just sorta an average coach who has gotten some post Chuck Knoll/Steel Curtain fan handshake?

KurtBevacqua · 10-19-2004, 08:58 AM

I think Rothy is the real deal, however playing for Cowher could stunt his growth and potential. What QB's has Cowher developed? Kordell Stewart, Neal O'What'shisname? Cowher has a much less than stellar rep when it comes to grooming QB's with his grind it out, ultra conservative system. I'd like to see Rothy play on a team that will use that golden arm to its fullest.

EagleEye_0 · 10-19-2004, 09:43 AM

Actually I think Cowher did a solid job considering how little talent to play QB Stewart and O'Donnell had.

09-20-2004, 09:26 AM	#2
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Operation Shutdown All Star Reserve Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Pittsburgh PA Posts: 912	I think that was the point when the Steelers coaches realized that they hadn't been giving the ball to Duce the whole game. So they decide to do it in the fourth quarter when they're down by 16. Why they didn't give him more carries in the first half, I'll never know. Though, back on topic, I think Roethlisberger looked pretty good, though I think the two interceptions pretty much prove that he hasn't quite learned the offensive system well enough quite yet. He probably has two or three weeks to learn it while on the job in order to keep Maddox on the bench when he's healthy again. __________________ "And Shepherds we shall be, For thee, my Lord, for thee. Power hath descended forth from Thy hand, Our feet may swiftly carry out Thy commands. So we shall flow a river forth to Thee, And teeming with souls shall it ever be. In Nomeni Patri Et Fili Spiritus Sancti."

09-20-2004, 09:51 AM	#4
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	Pal of mine is a Miami of Ohio grad so I ended up watching some of the games last year and he looked pretty much the real deal. I would have liked to see him again at Miami this year, mind. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

10-18-2004, 04:41 PM	#7
jjd Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 255	I hate all of the Marino comparisons, but after 4 starts this kid looks pretty darn good. A 125 QB rating in your 4th professional game ain't too shabby. __________________ ABA - Pittsburgh Pioneers - Co-Commish

10-18-2004, 05:26 PM	#10
Third and Long Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 99	Roethisberger is pretty good, but he's not proven he could wind up in the pro bowl this year and never throw for more than 100 yards next year.Rookies are so unpredictable. __________________ No copy written hotlinks were invovled in the making of this sig.

09-20-2004, 09:25 AM	#1
sixto Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jul 2002 Posts: 2,273	Roethlisberger I enjoyed watching him play yesterday. He looks like a charismatic QB a la Favre to me. Not saying he's even 1/10 the QB Favre is, just that he showed the same sort of presence. And Favre, if you remember, basically brought back the pump fake when he started his career, and it seemed like Roethlisberger pump faked every pass. Unfortunately for Steelers fans it looks like Cowher doesn't quite know what he has - or isn't interested - in Duce Staley. Staley should be catching more than one pass out of the backfield.

09-20-2004, 10:05 AM	#5
jjd Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Pittsburgh, PA Posts: 255	The kid has a cannon for an arm but knows when some touch is requirred. After he settled down a little bit, I think he looked pretty good. Of course he was throwing againsta pretty soft zone most of the 4th quarter. I also don't think the 2nd INT was his fault. I think the reciever zigged when he was supposed to zag. We will see today how long Big Ben gets to audition for next year. Maddox's arm was flopping like a rag doll when they showed that replay in slo-mo. Looked pretty bad to me...

09-21-2004, 08:23 PM	#6
dsvitak Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Posts: 5,420	I would like this kid to do well. The few interviews I have heard with him, he sounded pretty squared away...not the least bit arrogant.

10-18-2004, 05:08 PM	#9
benchwarmer Banned Join Date: May 2004 Location: Red Sox Nation Posts: 1,461	I bet SD is kicking themselves in the a$$ right now!

10-18-2004, 05:27 PM	#11
Third and Long Minors (Single A) Join Date: Oct 2004 Posts: 99	and how the hell do you put a name like Roethlisberger on a jersey? __________________ No copy written hotlinks were invovled in the making of this sig.

10-18-2004, 05:28 PM	#12
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10-19-2004, 05:26 AM	#16
EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,426	I said it back in April. Big Ben would be the best of the 2004 draft quaterbacks. I also said Leftwich would be the best from last year.

10-19-2004, 08:58 AM	#19
KurtBevacqua Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 2,968	I think Rothy is the real deal, however playing for Cowher could stunt his growth and potential. What QB's has Cowher developed? Kordell Stewart, Neal O'What'shisname? Cowher has a much less than stellar rep when it comes to grooming QB's with his grind it out, ultra conservative system. I'd like to see Rothy play on a team that will use that golden arm to its fullest. __________________ "The type and formula of most schemes of philanthropy or humanitarianism is this: A and B put their heads together to decide what C shall be made to do for D. The radical vice of all these schemes, from a sociological point of view, is that C is not allowed a voice in the matter, and his position, character, and interests, as well as the ultimate effects on society through C's interests, are entirely overlooked. I call C the Forgotten Man" - William Graham Sumner

10-19-2004, 09:43 AM	#20
EagleEye_0 All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Los Angeles, CA Posts: 1,426	Actually I think Cowher did a solid job considering how little talent to play QB Stewart and O'Donnell had.