Won't take asking price bug

[Another Mike D]

Yup, that's right...still there. Appears to be some in season FAs, asking for 300k, wouldn't take it, but they take 301k. Happens with other asking prices besides 300k. Usually just takes a little more, but I thought this bug was quashed...

[Steve Kuffrey]

known.

[Vezna31]

Don't bother with an additional 1,000. Offer $300,001. The $1 makes the difference and he will accept.

[ChuckB]

Well I had a doozy last night. Pitcher wanted $8.25m for 7 years. In order to try to lock him up quickly and painlessly (I really need this guy) I offer $12.5 million -- or 50% more -- for the same seven years. He won't even accept the offer and sends me a message FYI - your offer isn't even close to what I'm looking for.

Turns out that, with a little testing, the lowest amt he'll take is $20m a year for seven years. Then why is he asking for $8.25m a year?? Does that make any sense? We could go the entire FA period and no one will probably be able to afford that, and if I hadn't simmed ahead, we'd never know...

That's gotta be part-and-parcel of the $301k bug...

[sporr]

Originally Posted by ChuckB

Well I had a doozy last night. Pitcher wanted $8.25m for 7 years. In order to try to lock him up quickly and painlessly (I really need this guy) I offer $12.5 million -- or 50% more -- for the same seven years. He won't even accept the offer and sends me a message FYI - your offer isn't even close to what I'm looking for.

Turns out that, with a little testing, the lowest amt he'll take is $20m a year for seven years. Then why is he asking for $8.25m a year?? Does that make any sense? We could go the entire FA period and no one will probably be able to afford that, and if I hadn't simmed ahead, we'd never know...

That's gotta be part-and-parcel of the $301k bug...

Actually, the bug in this thread occurs only with during-season Free Agent bids.

[ChuckB]

So then my issue would be a totally unrelated instance? I searched the forums and found nothing on it....but I have to say that it's certainly a bug, because it a) affected the entire league, and b) is wrong, on its face. A player's agent, for example, wouldn't ask for x and then refuse to negotiate because x isn't enough...and then continue the pattern because even x times 2 isn't enough...

So, though the issue that started this thread might be an in-season only bug, this apparently is another problem, and actually of a greater magnitude because it affects Free Agency, and it's not a "just add a dollar" kind of thing.

[sporr]

Originally Posted by ChuckB

So then my issue would be a totally unrelated instance? I searched the forums and found nothing on it....but I have to say that it's certainly a bug, because it a) affected the entire league, and b) is wrong, on its face. A player's agent, for example, wouldn't ask for x and then refuse to negotiate because x isn't enough...and then continue the pattern because even x times 2 isn't enough...

So, though the issue that started this thread might be an in-season only bug, this apparently is another problem, and actually of a greater magnitude because it affects Free Agency, and it's not a "just add a dollar" kind of thing.

If he had this same reaction to all teams, I would agree that it would be a bug. However, if he only had this response to one team, then other variables come into play. My guess is that the player in question could have been signed for his asking price by other teams during this time.

[Vezna31]

Originally Posted by ChuckB

Well I had a doozy last night. Pitcher wanted $8.25m for 7 years. In order to try to lock him up quickly and painlessly (I really need this guy) I offer $12.5 million -- or 50% more -- for the same seven years. He won't even accept the offer and sends me a message FYI - your offer isn't even close to what I'm looking for.

Turns out that, with a little testing, the lowest amt he'll take is $20m a year for seven years. Then why is he asking for $8.25m a year?? Does that make any sense? We could go the entire FA period and no one will probably be able to afford that, and if I hadn't simmed ahead, we'd never know...

That's gotta be part-and-parcel of the $301k bug...

Was this guy already a FA or was he playing on your team?? You made reference to the free agent period at the end and I'm not sure where you are. If it's in the free agent signing period, then he might be receiving other offers that are higher than yours and that is why he turned down your larger offer even though it was more than his asking price. I've seen guys asking for $12M, but were signed for $32M as a free agent because everyone was after him.

[ChuckB]

Originally Posted by sporr

If he had this same reaction to all teams, I would agree that it would be a bug. However, if he only had this response to one team, then other variables come into play. My guess is that the player in question could have been signed for his asking price by other teams during this time.

Same reaction to all teams. Asks for $8m in free agency, and then refuses up through $20m per season, which no one can really afford (salary cap restraints). So, yes, I would consider it a bug, because no player would say "I want $8m" and then turn down everything up through 20m. I'm not the only bidder, as these two pitchers are two of the best in the league. They just flat out "FYI - Your offer is far from what I'm looking for!" to everyone.