what the best pro football sim to get?

jbmagic · 09-07-2004, 11:55 AM

kingcharlesxii · 09-07-2004, 12:08 PM

If price isn't an issue, probably Madden. I own ESPN and it has great presentation, audio and a low price but it's not quite as deep as Madden is and it has one of worst menu systems I've ever seen.

Deitrus · 09-07-2004, 01:58 PM

Assuming you are talking about PC related games/sims........

Well, that all depends on what you are looking for. If you are indeed looking for a football "sim" then Madden nor ESPN is what you want IMO (nor is ESPN on the PC). The best PC football sim out there (with the most immersion) is TPF (Total Pro Football). Front Office Football is also great but its interface is ugly and very unimmersive that I cant get into it.

jbmagic · 09-07-2004, 02:04 PM

i tought total pro football has alot of bugs still?

and that front office football was better?

Steve Kuffrey · 09-07-2004, 02:32 PM

Fof 2004

Deitrus · 09-07-2004, 06:29 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

i tought total pro football has alot of bugs still?

and that front office football was better?

TPF patched to 1.41 is the best bet IMO> FoF 2004 is great as far as a sim engine is concerned but it lacks immersivness.

jbmagic · 09-07-2004, 06:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Deitrus

TPF patched to 1.41 is the best bet IMO> FoF 2004 is great as far as a sim engine is concerned but it lacks immersivness.

is the AI on TPF smart late in games? does it make right decisions when to run when ahead and goes for it on 4th if there behind, etc?

how is the gameplanning? it is easy to use? or confusing?

thanks

Delgadodawg · 09-07-2004, 07:37 PM

FOF is much better IMO. (Besides the interface)

GeoWar · 09-07-2004, 08:04 PM

FOF 2004 is a 3rd or 4th generation game (correct me on length) it has been out for a while and EA Sports offered it for a while. **link**

http://easports.ea.com/games/frontofficefootball2001/

TPF started with great expectations ... and is very good (I like it best). The changes at 400SS has left many concerned about the future of the game ......... It plays well on my system and problems have been few.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-07-2004, 08:32 PM

I've been playing FOF since the game came out(v1) and the current one is the best yet, is solid and immersive(though not as "attractive" as TPF, which is also good but not my personal game of choice).

Deitrus · 09-07-2004, 10:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jbmagic

what the best pro football sim to get?

Besides, have you posted your vote on this thread yet?

I know that OOTP will most likely NOT do it but hey its OK to dream.

streetballer67 · 09-07-2004, 11:09 PM

FOF 2004>TPF, just barely.

IrishHand · 09-08-2004, 10:54 AM

Fof 2004

metsgeek · 09-08-2004, 11:26 AM

I'm considering purchasing FOF, too. Does it have a detailed career mode? Is there anything resembling the Lahman database for football (I doubt there is....but hope springs eternal.)

What about Player Creation? Personally, I hate when games only give you the option to use an allotted amount of "points" to create a player. If I want to make a monster with the maximum amount of allowable points at each attribute, I should be able to do so. You should be able to toggle that option on or off.

Le Grande Orange · 09-08-2004, 01:53 PM

The reason neither FOF or TPF caught my fancy was because neither allows any sort of league size/alignment flexibility. You're stuck with the current day NFL setup. Even old Sierra's FB Pro at least gave you a few other league sizes to use if one wanted.

I just really hate been locked into one size of league and alignment. I prefer to at least have some sort of options in this area.

Steve Kuffrey · 09-08-2004, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

The reason neither FOF or TPF caught my fancy was because neither allows any sort of league size/alignment flexibility. You're stuck with the current day NFL setup. Even old Sierra's FB Pro at least gave you a few other league sizes to use if one wanted.

I just really hate been locked into one size of league and alignment. I prefer to at least have some sort of options in this area.

This would be a nice option.

statfreak · 09-08-2004, 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Le Grande Orange

The reason neither FOF or TPF caught my fancy was because neither allows any sort of league size/alignment flexibility. You're stuck with the current day NFL setup. Even old Sierra's FB Pro at least gave you a few other league sizes to use if one wanted.

I just really hate been locked into one size of league and alignment. I prefer to at least have some sort of options in this area.

http://www.maximum-football.com is purported to have virtually unlimited customizability (and ships with CFL, NFL, US College, and Indoor Football rules -- allowing you to use one or mix and match).

The downside is no computer GM AI or career-mode in the first release, though you will be able to play from season to season and have the game keep career stats.

The game (in development for 4 years) looks to finally be ready to be released yet this year (the game was previewed at the Hamilton - Toronto Labour Day CFL game).

I can live without the career-mode and computer AI (actually, I prefer it that way). If the game provides half as much customizability has advertised, it will be my ultimate football sim.

rafini · 09-08-2004, 05:49 PM

Which game is better in terms of keeping a historical record book with career, single-season and game records? Actually, this is one area I wish OOTP would improve on with a more extensive list of season and game records (at least a top-25 for all-time single-season records instead of just the top person).

GeoWar · 09-08-2004, 07:41 PM

try the demo -- downloads

Steve Kuffrey · 09-08-2004, 08:32 PM

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Originally Posted by rafini

Which game is better in terms of keeping a historical record book with career, single-season and game records? Actually, this is one area I wish OOTP would improve on with a more extensive list of season and game records (at least a top-25 for all-time single-season records instead of just the top person).

FOF's is about as detailed as I've seen in this area. VERY deep.

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GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	FOF 2004 is a 3rd or 4th generation game (correct me on length) it has been out for a while and EA Sports offered it for a while. link http://easports.ea.com/games/frontofficefootball2001/ TPF started with great expectations ... and is very good (I like it best). The changes at 400SS has left many concerned about the future of the game ......... It plays well on my system and problems have been few. __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !

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Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I've been playing FOF since the game came out(v1) and the current one is the best yet, is solid and immersive(though not as "attractive" as TPF, which is also good but not my personal game of choice). __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

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Deitrus All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2004 Location: United States Posts: 535	Assuming you are talking about PC related games/sims........ Well, that all depends on what you are looking for. If you are indeed looking for a football "sim" then Madden nor ESPN is what you want IMO (nor is ESPN on the PC). The best PC football sim out there (with the most immersion) is TPF (Total Pro Football). Front Office Football is also great but its interface is ugly and very unimmersive that I cant get into it.

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jbmagic Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 3,417	i tought total pro football has alot of bugs still? and that front office football was better?

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metsgeek Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: Norwood, MA Posts: 5,450	I'm considering purchasing FOF, too. Does it have a detailed career mode? Is there anything resembling the Lahman database for football (I doubt there is....but hope springs eternal.) What about Player Creation? Personally, I hate when games only give you the option to use an allotted amount of "points" to create a player. If I want to make a monster with the maximum amount of allowable points at each attribute, I should be able to do so. You should be able to toggle that option on or off. __________________ Commissioner - PBRL - Just finished 2009 109 seasons and still running strong!!!

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Le Grande Orange Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Up There Posts: 15,642	The reason neither FOF or TPF caught my fancy was because neither allows any sort of league size/alignment flexibility. You're stuck with the current day NFL setup. Even old Sierra's FB Pro at least gave you a few other league sizes to use if one wanted. I just really hate been locked into one size of league and alignment. I prefer to at least have some sort of options in this area.

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rafini Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Feb 2004 Posts: 20	Which game is better in terms of keeping a historical record book with career, single-season and game records? Actually, this is one area I wish OOTP would improve on with a more extensive list of season and game records (at least a top-25 for all-time single-season records instead of just the top person).

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GeoWar All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2003 Posts: 850	try the demo -- downloads __________________ Cal. State Fullerton -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2004 Texas Longhorns -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2005 Oregon State Beavers -- NCAA Champion - Baseball 2006 and 2007 With unity comes VICTORY !