Marlins and Dodgers Trade. Is Arizona next to deal?

jaxmagicman · 07-30-2004, 06:23 PM

According to sources close to the negotiations, the Marlins would obtain catcher Paul Lo Duca, reliever Guillermo Mota, and outfielder Juan Encarnacion from the Dodgers in the proposed deal in exchange for starting pitcher Brad Penny, first baseman Hee Seop Choi and a minor-league prospect, presumably Bill Murphy.

The Dodgers would then use the prospect to trade for Finely. And maybe even package a couple to get Johnson as well.

The Dodgers are also rumored to get Charles Johnson from the Rockies for like the 17th time.

randomlefty10 · 07-30-2004, 06:32 PM

Trade Confirmed:

NY Mets get Benson and Two minor leaguers for Ty Wigginton and a minor league pitcher.

Chappy · 07-30-2004, 06:32 PM

I hate to see Penny go, but I like this deal for the fish. They NEED a guy like Mota in the pen, and they NEED an everyday catcher.

I wonder if the Fish will try to get another starter in case Beckett can't stay healthy. I also wonder if they plan on bringing Conine in to play 1B and go after another outfielder (Walker?) or if they just bring somebody up.

jaxmagicman · 07-30-2004, 06:34 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chappy

I hate to see Penny go, but I like this deal for the fish. They NEED a guy like Mota in the pen, and they NEED an everyday catcher.

I wonder if the Fish will try to get another starter in case Beckett can't stay healthy. I also wonder if they plan on bringing Conine in to play 1B and go after another outfielder (Walker?) or if they just bring somebody up.

If you believe reports if Johnson doesn't allow a trade to anyone but the Yankees the Marlins are thinking of doing a three-way trade that will send Contrares to the Malrins and Johnson to the Yankees for Prospects to the Diamondbacks.

lukster · 07-30-2004, 06:34 PM

nope i do not like the penny deal..what are you thinking or smoking paul depod??

you give a your catcher-who you got to play it now ross? hill?
you give up your set up guy after losing quantrill last year and shuey this year?

not good at all. if case have not noticed, you are in first place, and club finally has some cohesion...

cheers
lukster

jaxmagicman · 07-30-2004, 06:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chappy

I also wonder if they plan on bringing Conine in to play 1B and go after another outfielder (Walker?) or if they just bring somebody up.

http://www.miami.com/mld/miamiherald...9284134.htm?1c

There is the link. It says, Encarcion goes to Right, Cabrera back to left, Conine to first.

jaxmagicman · 07-30-2004, 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by lukster

nope i do not like the penny deal..what are you thinking or smoking paul depod??

you give a your catcher-who you got to play it now ross? hill?
you give up your set up guy after losing quantrill last year and shuey this year?

not good at all. if case have not noticed, you are in first place, and club finally has some cohesion...

cheers
lukster

Sorry, the Dodgers traded for Charles Johnson as well.

Chappy · 07-30-2004, 06:35 PM

Never mind; word is the fish get Encarnacion back too. So I guess Jeff will play 1B.

jaxmagicman · 07-30-2004, 06:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Chappy

Never mind; word is the fish get Encarnacion back too. So I guess Jeff will play 1B.

That is in my original post.

Chappy · 07-30-2004, 06:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaxmagicman

That is in my original post.

Heh, I read too fast. I'm happy with this deal. seeing as they said they wouldn't have it in the budget to keep Pavano AND Penny around.

LivnLegend · 07-30-2004, 06:47 PM

ESPN is reporting the FLA/LA trade as a done deal and the LA/COL deal for Johnson as practically done.

I can't stand Charles Johnson and I hope that strikeout machine is not coming back to LA.

There are going to be some irate Dodger fans over the trading of Lo Duca.
He's one of the top 3 popular players in LA, maybe #2 over Green.

I'm glad to see Encarnacion gone and I never expected him to last more than the season with LA. He was Dan Evans last acquisition before being canned.

disposableheros · 07-30-2004, 07:31 PM

gammons just said that LA is looking to package penny and spects for johnson/finley, but that the angels dont want to see randy in LA so they might try to steal him away

LivnLegend · 07-30-2004, 07:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by disposableheros

gammons just said that LA is looking to package penny and spects for johnson/finley, but that the angels dont want to see randy in LA so they might try to steal him away

Who is Spects? I hope the Dodgers trade him because I never heard of him.

Legend's Lock: The Angels won't be trading for Randy Johnson

SanDiegoPadres19 · 07-30-2004, 07:45 PM

Dear Dodgers GM,
Thanks for trading away the heart and soul of your team, I hope David Ross/Charles Johnson platoon looks good starting the rest of your games. Enjoy the wild card.

Signed,
San Diego Padres GM

disposableheros · 07-30-2004, 07:47 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by LivnLegend

Who is Spects? I hope the Dodgers trade him because I never heard of him.

Legend's Lock: The Angels won't be trading for Randy Johnson

he didnt name them, but said that the AA pitcher they just got from FLA (cant think of his name...Murphy? maybe?)

disposableheros · 07-30-2004, 07:47 PM

dola

nevermind i get it....doh!

cinredsfan2000 · 07-30-2004, 07:48 PM

spects =prospects L.L.

jaxmagicman · 07-30-2004, 07:57 PM

Just reported on Marlins network, the Marlins might send Encarion and some prospects to Colorado for Walker.

billycola · 07-30-2004, 08:03 PM

Trading LoDuca just killed our team. Damn that front office!

cinredsfan2000 · 07-30-2004, 08:08 PM

Damn id send griffey to anybody for a bag of balls or a case of sunflower seads

07-30-2004, 06:23 PM	#1
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Marlins and Dodgers Trade. Is Arizona next to deal? According to sources close to the negotiations, the Marlins would obtain catcher Paul Lo Duca, reliever Guillermo Mota, and outfielder Juan Encarnacion from the Dodgers in the proposed deal in exchange for starting pitcher Brad Penny, first baseman Hee Seop Choi and a minor-league prospect, presumably Bill Murphy. The Dodgers would then use the prospect to trade for Finely. And maybe even package a couple to get Johnson as well. The Dodgers are also rumored to get Charles Johnson from the Rockies for like the 17th time. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved. Last edited by jaxmagicman; 07-30-2004 at 06:29 PM.

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Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	I hate to see Penny go, but I like this deal for the fish. They NEED a guy like Mota in the pen, and they NEED an everyday catcher. I wonder if the Fish will try to get another starter in case Beckett can't stay healthy. I also wonder if they plan on bringing Conine in to play 1B and go after another outfielder (Walker?) or if they just bring somebody up. __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals

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lukster Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: living large in the OC Posts: 284	nope i do not like the penny deal..what are you thinking or smoking paul depod?? you give a your catcher-who you got to play it now ross? hill? you give up your set up guy after losing quantrill last year and shuey this year? not good at all. if case have not noticed, you are in first place, and club finally has some cohesion... cheers lukster __________________ say hello to your new home run king- BARROID BONDS!! We save no souls We break no promises "I've got wood you could swing from." soxwin

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Chappy Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Raleigh, NC Posts: 2,721	Never mind; word is the fish get Encarnacion back too. So I guess Jeff will play 1B. __________________ NPBL - Pennsylvania Freedom AFBL - North Carolina Aviators MLB-Pro - Kansas City Royals

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LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	ESPN is reporting the FLA/LA trade as a done deal and the LA/COL deal for Johnson as practically done. I can't stand Charles Johnson and I hope that strikeout machine is not coming back to LA. There are going to be some irate Dodger fans over the trading of Lo Duca. He's one of the top 3 popular players in LA, maybe #2 over Green. I'm glad to see Encarnacion gone and I never expected him to last more than the season with LA. He was Dan Evans last acquisition before being canned. __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

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