LivnLegend's 2004 MLB All Stars

LivnLegend · 07-20-2004, 05:08 PM

I've put together an All-Star team that could whip the pants off of the competition. This All-Star roster is not necessarily made up of the best player at each position. It is a 25 man roster with a specific special requirement taken into consideration. See if you can come up with a team that might compete with this one using the same secret special requirement I used.

STARTERS
1b – Jim Thome
2b – Alphonso Soriano
SS – Michael Young
3b – Scott Rolen
LF – Barry Bonds
CF – Jim Edmonds
RF – Bobby Abreu
C – Jorge Posada

BENCH
DH – David Ortiz
OF – Matt Lawton
INF – Rafael Furcal
INF – Aubrey Huff
C – Jason Kendall

ROTATION
SP – Roger Clemens
SP – Pedro Martinez
SP – Randy Johnson
SP - Carlos Zambrano
SP – Javier Vazquez

BULLPEN
Closer – Eric Gagne
RP – Paul Quantrill
RP – Ugeth Urbina
RP – Brendan Donnelly
RP – Jason Isringhausen
RP – Billy Wagner
RP – Joe Nathan

PS: I posted this in the OTBL and only 1 of those elitists even figured out the criteria used

Hammer755 · 07-20-2004, 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by LivnLegend

PS: I posted this in the OTBL and only 1 of those elitists even figured out the criteria used

It's hard to find the answer to a trivia question when you spend all your time looking at spreadsheets.

TotalEnd98 · 07-20-2004, 05:52 PM

Figuring out the criteria was simple. Putting together a better team would be tough.

Let's face it, Zambrano and Vazquez in the rotation are total gifts. Tough holes to fill.

I would switch Rolen for Rodriguez (which has the bonus of requiring no other changes), but either one is suitable. Based on this year alone, I might switch Mulder for Pedro (again, no tangential changes).

Unfortunately, I can't find an acceptable way to get Pudge behind the plate.

Donnelly hasn't pitched since the ball-to-face incident, has he? Does he still qualify?

STLFAN2003 · 07-20-2004, 06:00 PM

there is only one person whose last name begins with A, one begins with B and so on

BadluckinOOTP · 07-20-2004, 06:22 PM

STLFAN2003 has my answer

LivnLegend · 07-20-2004, 06:31 PM

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Originally Posted by STLFAN2003

there is only one person whose last name begins with A, one begins with B and so on

Well, the true challenge was puting together a rival team.

Props to TotalEnd for his suggestions. Brendan Donnelly has pitched in 12 games and has looked pretty sharp with 14 K's in 12 innings a .200 average against. Still, I'm sure his spot could be improved on the team.

We could add Pudge, drop Rolen (tough drop, possible NL MVP), put Lowell at 3b and add a new "P"
Rolen, A-Rod, Aramis Ramirez...easy to put an "R" at 3b!

CMH · 07-20-2004, 06:33 PM

Until now, I never realized that it is impossible to build a 26-man roster using your criteria. That's interesting.

jaxmagicman · 07-20-2004, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by LivnLegend

Well, the true challenge was puting together a rival team.

Props to TotalEnd for his suggestions. Brendan Donnelly has pitched in 12 games and has looked pretty sharp with 14 K's in 12 innings a .200 average against. Still, I'm sure his spot could be improved on the team.

We could add Pudge, drop Rolen (tough drop, possible NL MVP), put Lowell at 3b and add a new "P"
Rolen, A-Rod, Aramis Ramirez...easy to put an "R" at 3b!

Drop Lawton and Add Juan Pierre to the Outfield? Just a thought. Adds speed and Productive outs off the bench. Of course that is with Replacing Posoda with Rodriquez. But wouldn't you rather replace Kendall.

Ok. Here's what you do.

Drop Rolen, add Rodriquez at Catcher
Remove Kendall and Place Posada on the bench.
Remove Lawton and Replace him with Kotsay.

cknox0723 · 07-20-2004, 07:18 PM

I don't know if it's competition- but my team certainly wins in a battle of marginal dollars per win! And I believe it's 24 different guys, by the way.

STARTERS
1b – Todd Helton
2b – Jose Vidro
SS – Juan Uribe
3b – Adrian Beltre
LF – Adam Dunn
CF – Carl Crawford
RF – Vladimir Guerrero
C – Johnny Estrada

BENCH
C/INF/OF – Brandon Inge
'Roids – David Newhan
Masher – Bucky Jacobsen
INF – Kevin Youkilis
C – Humberto Quintero (fine, you find another 'Q' then)

ROTATION
SP – Jason Schmidt
SP – Carl Pavano
SP – Al Leiter
SP - Victor Zambrano
SP – Jake Westbrook

BULLPEN
Closer – Mariano Rivera
RP – Ryan Madson
RP – Shingo Takatsu
RP – Danny Kolb
RP – Akinori Otsuka
RP – Jason Frasor
RP – Michael Adams

And the letter 'U' is where I come up short.

EDIT: I'm no longer short...nice job, attackemu!

Craig

LivnLegend · 07-20-2004, 07:27 PM

Nice job!!!

U is a toughie, it's the only way I'd want Urbina on my team!

I backed Vlad out on mine to include my homer pick of Gagne

jaxmagicman · 07-20-2004, 08:38 PM

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Originally Posted by cknox0723

I don't know if it's competition- but my team certainly wins in a battle of marginal dollars per win! And I believe it's 24 different guys, by the way.

STARTERS
1b – Todd Helton
2b – Jose Vidro
SS – Jack Wilson
3b – Adrian Beltre
LF – Adam Dunn
CF – Carl Crawford
RF – Vladimir Guerrero
C – Johnny Estrada

BENCH
C/INF/OF – Brandon Inge
'Roids – David Newhan
Masher – Bucky Jacobsen
INF – Kevin Youkilis
C – Humberto Quintero (<i>fine, you find another 'Q' then</i>)

ROTATION
SP – Jason Schmidt
SP – Carl Pavano
SP – Al Leiter
SP - Victor Zambrano
SP –

BULLPEN
Closer – Mariano Rivera
RP – Ryan Madson
RP – Shingo Takatsu
RP – Danny Kolb
RP – Akinori Otsuka
RP – Jason Frasor
RP – Michael Adams

And the letter 'U' is where I come up short.

Craig

Yeah add Urbina as your Closer. Then Throw Brad Radke into your SP.

Goody · 07-20-2004, 09:19 PM

You guys are crazy!

You just broke my brain.

attackemu · 07-20-2004, 09:32 PM

Here's a team that could compete. And I don't think I re-used any players except Quantrill.

STARTERS
1b – Sean Casey
2b – Marcus Giles
SS – Juan Uribe
3b – Alex Rodriguez
LF – Craig Wilson
CF – Lew Ford
RF – Sammy Sosa
C – Mike Piazza

BENCH
DH - Frank Thomas
C – Javy Lopez
INF – Hank Blalock
INF – John Olerud
OF - JD Drew

ROTATION
SP – Barry Zito
SP – Tim Hudson
SP – Randy Johnson
SP - Joe Kennedy
SP – Kaz Ishii

BULLPEN
Closer – Jose Mesa
RP – Paul Quantrill
RP – Brandon Villafuerte
RP – Esteban Yan
RP – Antonio Alfonseca
RP – Joey Eischen
RP – Jeff Nelson

LivnLegend · 07-20-2004, 10:51 PM

Very nice job, AE!

TexasLonghorns · 07-21-2004, 12:45 AM

C-Ivan Rodriguez
1B-Jim Thome
2B-Jeff Kent
SS-Derek Jeter
3B-Troy Glaus
LF-Albert Pujols
CF-Carlos Beltran
RF-Magglio Ordonez

Bench
OF-Ichiro Sukuzi
OF-Jim Edmonds
IF-Carlos Delgado
IF-Jason Varitek
IF-Micheal Young

Starting Pitchers
SP-Roy Halladay
SP-Pedro Martinez
SP-Roger Clemens
SP-Kerry Wood
SP-Carlos Zambrano

Relievers
CL-Keith Foulke
RP-Jason Isringhausen
RP-Brad Lidge
RP-Joe Nathan
RP-Ugetha Urbina
RP-Terry Adams
RP-Paul Quantrill

attackemu · 07-21-2004, 01:03 AM

Nice work, Longhorns! Especially being the first to use Pujols.

Kezzek · 07-21-2004, 10:58 AM

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Originally Posted by LivnLegend

PS: I posted this in the OTBL and only 1 of those elitists even figured out the criteria used

C'mon, be honest. Only a couple people bothered to respond after you had Ortiz listed as "OF". You changed it to DH/OF here.

I only made it to Ortiz - OF and my grip on sanity snapped and I stopped reading to go pound my head against the wall.

LivnLegend · 07-21-2004, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Kezzek

C'mon, be honest. Only a couple people bothered to respond after you had Ortiz listed as "OF". You changed it to DH/OF here.

I had a total of 7 OTBL elitists guess incorrectly through PM before JG spilled the beans and posted the answer.

The Rotund 1B · 07-21-2004, 12:27 PM

So, someone mentioned this to me and suggested that I try to make a team with one person per last name, but only 1 player could be used per team. So I got cracking last night.....

1. Young, Michael (SS) - Texas Rangers
2. Beltran, Carlos (CF) - Houston Astros
3. Abreu, Bobby (RF) - Philadelphia Phillies
4. Lowell, Mike (3B) - Florida Marlins
5. Dunn, Adam (LF) - Cincinnati Reds
6. Overbay, Lyle (1B) - Milwaukee Brewers
7. Estrada, Johnny (C) - Atlanta Braves
8. Reyes, Jose (2B) - New York Mets

Bench

Ibanez, Raul (1B / OF) - Seattle Mariners
Crisp, Coco / Rice Krispies / Generic Cereal (OF) - Cleveland Indians
Nady, Xavier (IF / OF) - San Diego Padres
Varitek, Jason (C) - Boston Red Sox
Wilson, Jack (SS) - Pittsburgh Pirates

Rotation

1. Johnson, Randy (SP) - Arizona D'Backs
2. Mulder, Mark (SP) - Oakland A's
3. Santana, Johan (SP) - Minnesota Twins
4. Hernandez, Livan (SP) - Montreal Expos
5. Zambrano, Victor (SP) - Tampa Bay D'Rays

Bullpen

Gagne, Eric (PROVEN CLOSER!) - LA Dodgers
Percival, Troy (OTHER PROVEN CLOSER) - Anaheim Angels
Urbina, Ugueth (OTHER OTHER PROVEN CLOSER) - Detroit Tigers
Farnsworth, Kyle (RP) - Chicago Cubs
Kline, Steve (RP / Loogy) - St. Louis Cards
Takatsu, Shingo (RP) - Chicago "Pale Hose"
Quantrill, Paul (RP) - New York Yankees

I didn't use the Giants, Rockies, Royals, Blue Jays, or Orioles......

I guess this time, it doesn't count all that much.......

LivnLegend · 07-21-2004, 12:48 PM

Another winner!

Someone load these teams up in OOTP and have a tournament!

07-20-2004, 05:08 PM	#1
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	LivnLegend's 2004 MLB All Stars I've put together an All-Star team that could whip the pants off of the competition. This All-Star roster is not necessarily made up of the best player at each position. It is a 25 man roster with a specific special requirement taken into consideration. See if you can come up with a team that might compete with this one using the same secret special requirement I used. STARTERS 1b – Jim Thome 2b – Alphonso Soriano SS – Michael Young 3b – Scott Rolen LF – Barry Bonds CF – Jim Edmonds RF – Bobby Abreu C – Jorge Posada BENCH DH – David Ortiz OF – Matt Lawton INF – Rafael Furcal INF – Aubrey Huff C – Jason Kendall ROTATION SP – Roger Clemens SP – Pedro Martinez SP – Randy Johnson SP - Carlos Zambrano SP – Javier Vazquez BULLPEN Closer – Eric Gagne RP – Paul Quantrill RP – Ugeth Urbina RP – Brendan Donnelly RP – Jason Isringhausen RP – Billy Wagner RP – Joe Nathan PS: I posted this in the OTBL and only 1 of those elitists even figured out the criteria used __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling. Last edited by LivnLegend; 07-21-2004 at 01:26 PM.

07-20-2004, 05:52 PM	#3
TotalEnd98 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,687	Figuring out the criteria was simple. Putting together a better team would be tough. Let's face it, Zambrano and Vazquez in the rotation are total gifts. Tough holes to fill. I would switch Rolen for Rodriguez (which has the bonus of requiring no other changes), but either one is suitable. Based on this year alone, I might switch Mulder for Pedro (again, no tangential changes). Unfortunately, I can't find an acceptable way to get Pudge behind the plate. Donnelly hasn't pitched since the ball-to-face incident, has he? Does he still qualify? __________________ OTBL - Scandinavia Cartoon Heroes This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper.

07-20-2004, 06:22 PM	#5
BadluckinOOTP All Star Starter Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: OKC Posts: 1,534	STLFAN2003 has my answer __________________

07-20-2004, 07:18 PM	#9
cknox0723 All Star Starter Join Date: May 2003 Location: NJ Posts: 1,957	competition? I don't know if it's competition- but my team certainly wins in a battle of marginal dollars per win! And I believe it's 24 different guys, by the way. STARTERS 1b – Todd Helton 2b – Jose Vidro SS – Juan Uribe 3b – Adrian Beltre LF – Adam Dunn CF – Carl Crawford RF – Vladimir Guerrero C – Johnny Estrada BENCH C/INF/OF – Brandon Inge 'Roids – David Newhan Masher – Bucky Jacobsen INF – Kevin Youkilis C – Humberto Quintero (fine, you find another 'Q' then) ROTATION SP – Jason Schmidt SP – Carl Pavano SP – Al Leiter SP - Victor Zambrano SP – Jake Westbrook BULLPEN Closer – Mariano Rivera RP – Ryan Madson RP – Shingo Takatsu RP – Danny Kolb RP – Akinori Otsuka RP – Jason Frasor RP – Michael Adams And the letter 'U' is where I come up short. EDIT: I'm no longer short...nice job, attackemu! Craig Last edited by cknox0723; 07-20-2004 at 10:22 PM.

07-20-2004, 07:27 PM	#10
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Nice job!!! U is a toughie, it's the only way I'd want Urbina on my team! I backed Vlad out on mine to include my homer pick of Gagne __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

07-20-2004, 06:00 PM	#4
STLFAN2003 Minors (Double A) Join Date: May 2004 Posts: 141	there is only one person whose last name begins with A, one begins with B and so on

07-20-2004, 06:33 PM	#7
CMH Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Posts: 5,057	Until now, I never realized that it is impossible to build a 26-man roster using your criteria. That's interesting.

07-20-2004, 09:19 PM	#12
Goody Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: South Korea Posts: 3,530	You guys are crazy! You just broke my brain. __________________ In the past: Laseron Baseball Association creator. Present: I am Rezulm on PT and OOTP Discord. Future: I wish it was the past.

07-20-2004, 09:32 PM	#13
attackemu All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 972	Here's a team that could compete. And I don't think I re-used any players except Quantrill. STARTERS 1b – Sean Casey 2b – Marcus Giles SS – Juan Uribe 3b – Alex Rodriguez LF – Craig Wilson CF – Lew Ford RF – Sammy Sosa C – Mike Piazza BENCH DH - Frank Thomas C – Javy Lopez INF – Hank Blalock INF – John Olerud OF - JD Drew ROTATION SP – Barry Zito SP – Tim Hudson SP – Randy Johnson SP - Joe Kennedy SP – Kaz Ishii BULLPEN Closer – Jose Mesa RP – Paul Quantrill RP – Brandon Villafuerte RP – Esteban Yan RP – Antonio Alfonseca RP – Joey Eischen RP – Jeff Nelson __________________ "Disguised in EMU's Blunt and sometimes hostile post is actually very sound advice. I think you would be wise to consider what he said." -ihatenames

07-20-2004, 10:51 PM	#14
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Very nice job, AE! __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.

07-21-2004, 12:45 AM	#15
TexasLonghorns Major Leagues Join Date: Nov 2003 Posts: 302	C-Ivan Rodriguez 1B-Jim Thome 2B-Jeff Kent SS-Derek Jeter 3B-Troy Glaus LF-Albert Pujols CF-Carlos Beltran RF-Magglio Ordonez Bench OF-Ichiro Sukuzi OF-Jim Edmonds IF-Carlos Delgado IF-Jason Varitek IF-Micheal Young Starting Pitchers SP-Roy Halladay SP-Pedro Martinez SP-Roger Clemens SP-Kerry Wood SP-Carlos Zambrano Relievers CL-Keith Foulke RP-Jason Isringhausen RP-Brad Lidge RP-Joe Nathan RP-Ugetha Urbina RP-Terry Adams RP-Paul Quantrill

07-21-2004, 01:03 AM	#16
attackemu All Star Reserve Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Brooklyn Posts: 972	Nice work, Longhorns! Especially being the first to use Pujols. __________________ "Disguised in EMU's Blunt and sometimes hostile post is actually very sound advice. I think you would be wise to consider what he said." -ihatenames

07-21-2004, 12:27 PM	#19
The Rotund 1B Bat Boy Join Date: Jul 2004 Posts: 4	So, someone mentioned this to me and suggested that I try to make a team with one person per last name, but only 1 player could be used per team. So I got cracking last night..... 1. Young, Michael (SS) - Texas Rangers 2. Beltran, Carlos (CF) - Houston Astros 3. Abreu, Bobby (RF) - Philadelphia Phillies 4. Lowell, Mike (3B) - Florida Marlins 5. Dunn, Adam (LF) - Cincinnati Reds 6. Overbay, Lyle (1B) - Milwaukee Brewers 7. Estrada, Johnny (C) - Atlanta Braves 8. Reyes, Jose (2B) - New York Mets Bench Ibanez, Raul (1B / OF) - Seattle Mariners Crisp, Coco / Rice Krispies / Generic Cereal (OF) - Cleveland Indians Nady, Xavier (IF / OF) - San Diego Padres Varitek, Jason (C) - Boston Red Sox Wilson, Jack (SS) - Pittsburgh Pirates Rotation 1. Johnson, Randy (SP) - Arizona D'Backs 2. Mulder, Mark (SP) - Oakland A's 3. Santana, Johan (SP) - Minnesota Twins 4. Hernandez, Livan (SP) - Montreal Expos 5. Zambrano, Victor (SP) - Tampa Bay D'Rays Bullpen Gagne, Eric (PROVEN CLOSER!) - LA Dodgers Percival, Troy (OTHER PROVEN CLOSER) - Anaheim Angels Urbina, Ugueth (OTHER OTHER PROVEN CLOSER) - Detroit Tigers Farnsworth, Kyle (RP) - Chicago Cubs Kline, Steve (RP / Loogy) - St. Louis Cards Takatsu, Shingo (RP) - Chicago "Pale Hose" Quantrill, Paul (RP) - New York Yankees I didn't use the Giants, Rockies, Royals, Blue Jays, or Orioles...... I guess this time, it doesn't count all that much.......

07-21-2004, 12:48 PM	#20
LivnLegend Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: 100% pure adrenaline! Posts: 5,624	Another winner! Someone load these teams up in OOTP and have a tournament! __________________ Excess ain't rebellion. You're drinking what they're selling.