...seems to have taken a bump...

Kezzek · 06-23-2004, 08:30 AM

Does the phrase "Joe Bloe's control seems to have taken a bump..." imply a gain or loss?

In my way of speaking, a bump is a rise. (e.g. a bump in salary) But it occurs so often in V6 that I wonder if it's actually supposed to be communicating a drop in skill.

Does anyone know if it's just a language issue like we see once in a while in OOTP?

Ben Music · 06-23-2004, 08:31 AM

I believe in OOTP6, a bump is a decrease.

hayesb26 · 06-23-2004, 08:54 AM

Im actually pretty sure it's an increase. A bump implies going up and the talent would increase then.

Ben E Lou · 06-23-2004, 09:07 AM

A "bump" was a decrease in OOTP5, and it still is in OOTP6.

Henry · 06-23-2004, 09:08 AM

It's a language variation between American and German. The terms used are "increase" (obvious) and "bump" = decrease. Think of "bump" as follows....

Synonyms DEGRADE 1, break, bust, declass, demerit, demote, disgrade, disrate, downgrade, reduce

hayesb26 · 06-23-2004, 09:26 AM

Well that sucks. All this time I thought my guys were improving, they've been getting worse! heh

Kezzek · 06-23-2004, 09:30 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Henry

It's a language variation between American and German. The terms used are "increase" (obvious) and "bump" = decrease. Think of "bump" as follows....

Synonyms DEGRADE 1, break, bust, declass, demerit, demote, disgrade, disrate, downgrade, reduce

Argh!

Ben E Lou · 06-23-2004, 09:33 AM

OK. I must confess that I'm a little surprised that it wasn't blatantly obvious to everyone that when they "take a bump", the numbers go *down*, rather than *up*.

Gastric ReFlux · 06-23-2004, 09:39 AM

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Originally Posted by SkyDog

OK. I must confess that I'm a little surprised that it wasn't blatantly obvious to everyone that when they "take a bump", the numbers go *down*, rather than *up*.

If this is true, shouldn't we make the board like the game and message bumps send the thread to the bottom of the board?

Henry · 06-23-2004, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastric ReFlux

If this is true, shouldn't we make the board like the game and message bumps send the thread to the bottom of the board?

Well, in the strictest sense of the word, it means "to move from it's present position". That's why it can be used to mean either.

Ben E Lou · 06-23-2004, 09:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Gastric ReFlux

If this is true, shouldn't we make the board like the game and message bumps send the thread to the bottom of the board?

Sure it is counter-intuitive, but it has been counter-intuitive for long enough that I assumed it was common knowledge. I *know* it worked this way in OOTP5, and, if I recall, I think it was this way even back in OOTP4.

obaslg · 06-23-2004, 10:53 AM

Wow. I always assumed it was an increase, since that's actually a phrase I use anyway, e.g. telling a friend happily, "Jones just got a fielding bump."

Dagrims · 06-23-2004, 11:02 AM

If you bump someone off, all their ratings decrease (to zero). That's the way I remember it.

Kezzek · 06-24-2004, 02:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Dagrims

If you bump someone off, all their ratings decrease (to zero). That's the way I remember it.

True.

Except what about bumping uglies? That's good! Things go up!

statfreak · 06-24-2004, 03:21 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kezzek

True.

Except what about bumping uglies? That's good! Things go up!

depends who you are bumping them with...

Mike D · 06-24-2004, 03:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Kezzek

True.

Except what about bumping uglies? That's good! Things go up!

Well, at some point things do go down. Unless your a porn star

sporr · 06-24-2004, 04:14 PM

Boy this thread seems to have hit a few bumps in the road.

fhomess · 06-24-2004, 04:41 PM

bump

Rizon · 06-24-2004, 04:54 PM

Depends on the wording:

"taken a bump" would be a decrease, as it was bumped downwards.

"given a bump" would be an increase.

I'm not sure if OOTP uses this terminology though.

Artermis · 06-24-2004, 06:59 PM

This is one of my biggest problems with 6.

The numbers make the talent bumps seem so inpersonal. Before it was a joy to see when you went from a bad rating to a good one or a good to a bad but now with the numbers for talent, it just does not feel the same. I am probably going to have to live with it but there should be an option for whether you want numbers or maybe the 1-5 scale could be replaced with poor, fair, avg, good, brillant.

Thanks

Art

06-23-2004, 08:30 AM	#1
Kezzek All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Keyboard - frantically typing in subtle insults to raise my self-esteem Posts: 973	...seems to have taken a bump... Does the phrase "Joe Bloe's control seems to have taken a bump..." imply a gain or loss? In my way of speaking, a bump is a rise. (e.g. a bump in salary) But it occurs so often in V6 that I wonder if it's actually supposed to be communicating a drop in skill. Does anyone know if it's just a language issue like we see once in a while in OOTP? __________________ - Kez, P.E.

06-23-2004, 08:31 AM	#2
Ben Music Major Leagues Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 432	I believe in OOTP6, a bump is a decrease. __________________

06-24-2004, 04:41 PM	#18
fhomess Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Posts: 3,693	bump __________________ StatsLab- PHP/MySQL based utilities for Online Leagues Baseball Cards - Full list of known templates and documentation on card development.

06-24-2004, 04:54 PM	#19
Rizon Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: SF Area, California Total Posts: 531,691 Posts: 2,370	Depends on the wording: "taken a bump" would be a decrease, as it was bumped downwards. "given a bump" would be an increase. I'm not sure if OOTP uses this terminology though. __________________ JML MILKSHAKES

06-23-2004, 08:54 AM	#3
hayesb26 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 267	Im actually pretty sure it's an increase. A bump implies going up and the talent would increase then.

06-23-2004, 09:07 AM	#4
Ben E Lou Front Office Football Central Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Souf Cackilacky Posts: 1,762	A "bump" was a decrease in OOTP5, and it still is in OOTP6.

06-23-2004, 09:08 AM	#5
Henry Hall of Fame Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 6,498	It's a language variation between American and German. The terms used are "increase" (obvious) and "bump" = decrease. Think of "bump" as follows.... Synonyms DEGRADE 1, break, bust, declass, demerit, demote, disgrade, disrate, downgrade, reduce

06-23-2004, 09:26 AM	#6
hayesb26 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 267	Well that sucks. All this time I thought my guys were improving, they've been getting worse! heh

06-23-2004, 09:33 AM	#8
Ben E Lou Front Office Football Central Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Souf Cackilacky Posts: 1,762	OK. I must confess that I'm a little surprised that it wasn't blatantly obvious to everyone that when they "take a bump", the numbers go down, rather than up.

06-23-2004, 10:53 AM	#12
obaslg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 887	Wow. I always assumed it was an increase, since that's actually a phrase I use anyway, e.g. telling a friend happily, "Jones just got a fielding bump."

06-23-2004, 11:02 AM	#13
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	If you bump someone off, all their ratings decrease (to zero). That's the way I remember it.

06-24-2004, 04:14 PM	#17
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Boy this thread seems to have hit a few bumps in the road.

06-24-2004, 06:59 PM	#20
Artermis Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 57	This is one of my biggest problems with 6. The numbers make the talent bumps seem so inpersonal. Before it was a joy to see when you went from a bad rating to a good one or a good to a bad but now with the numbers for talent, it just does not feel the same. I am probably going to have to live with it but there should be an option for whether you want numbers or maybe the 1-5 scale could be replaced with poor, fair, avg, good, brillant. Thanks Art