Starting a pitcher with 0 for Hits

TasmanianDevil · 06-21-2004, 10:10 PM

Is it wise to put a 5 star pitching minor with a zero for runs in the rotation if the remainder of his ratings say he is capable? His talent ratings G/A/A/B/B.

The pitcher I'm contemplating has 0/1/4/1/7/7/6 for numbers and I know he needs to wait until the 1's go up a bit. But I'm curious as to what the prevailing theory is on starting pitchers with a zero for runs.

hayesb26 · 06-21-2004, 10:23 PM

You definately can't bring him up yet. You should have at least a 3, and preferably a 5, in avoid runs before bringing someone into the rotation.

As for the hits, they also need to go up to at least a 4-5 before he is ML ready.

cameronbelldina · 06-21-2004, 10:46 PM

Dont Bring Him Up

player196 · 06-21-2004, 10:49 PM

If you bring him up now, he has a chance of taking major talent hits.

chrisj · 06-21-2004, 10:56 PM

This is OOTP5? I never had a problem with a guy who had a 1 in avoid hits in the majors. Just make sure his avoid HR/avoid walks are high.

cameronbelldina · 06-21-2004, 11:19 PM

no this is OOTP6

chrisj · 06-21-2004, 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by cameronbelldina

no this is OOTP6

Are you sure he's talking about OOTP6? Considering he referred to talents as G/A/A/etc (and there were more than 3 pitcher ratings mentioned).

Actually, I'm sure he's talking about version 5.

TotalEnd98 · 06-21-2004, 11:28 PM

I wouldn't bring him up. He's not going to be terribly effective with such a low rating, and, like others mentioned, it could hurt his development. If you let him develop, with those talents, he could become your ace. Call him up too early, and you may be stuck with a spot starter at best.

Ragin Cajun · 06-22-2004, 10:48 AM

He could be using OOTP6, with the old OOTP5 engine.

I've seen a few pitchers with low run ratings, but very high hits, HR and BB ratings do fine. The theory there is if he doesn't give up any baserunners and HR's, he won't give up many runs anyway.

ctorg · 06-22-2004, 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by Ragin Cajun

He could be using OOTP6, with the old OOTP5 engine.

I've seen a few pitchers with low run ratings, but very high hits, HR and BB ratings do fine. The theory there is if he doesn't give up any baserunners and HR's, he won't give up many runs anyway.

Last I heard, even if you switch engines, the ratings don't change. This really sounds like OOTP5. I mean, OOTP6 doesn't have those ratings.

Artermis · 06-22-2004, 02:12 PM

I believe if this is the Tas from HTFC that he is using OOTP5 still.

Since he is in the NL and away from me...It doesnt matter to me.

Take some time and run a couple sims with trying that out.

Art

06-21-2004, 10:10 PM	#1
TasmanianDevil Minors (Single A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Location: California Posts: 59	Starting a pitcher with 0 for Hits Is it wise to put a 5 star pitching minor with a zero for runs in the rotation if the remainder of his ratings say he is capable? His talent ratings G/A/A/B/B. The pitcher I'm contemplating has 0/1/4/1/7/7/6 for numbers and I know he needs to wait until the 1's go up a bit. But I'm curious as to what the prevailing theory is on starting pitchers with a zero for runs.

06-21-2004, 10:46 PM	#3
cameronbelldina Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 231	Dont Bring Him Up __________________ Say what you want, not what's implied.

06-21-2004, 10:56 PM	#5
chrisj All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Edmonton, Alberta (but still wishing I was in Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada) Posts: 834	This is OOTP5? I never had a problem with a guy who had a 1 in avoid hits in the majors. Just make sure his avoid HR/avoid walks are high. __________________ Canadian Baseball League -- Commissioner -- Calgary GM

06-21-2004, 11:19 PM	#6
cameronbelldina Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 231	no this is OOTP6 __________________ Say what you want, not what's implied.

06-21-2004, 11:28 PM	#8
TotalEnd98 All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: New York Posts: 1,687	I wouldn't bring him up. He's not going to be terribly effective with such a low rating, and, like others mentioned, it could hurt his development. If you let him develop, with those talents, he could become your ace. Call him up too early, and you may be stuck with a spot starter at best. __________________ OTBL - Scandinavia Cartoon Heroes This is the way the world ends Not with a bang but a whimper.

06-21-2004, 10:23 PM	#2
hayesb26 Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 267	You definately can't bring him up yet. You should have at least a 3, and preferably a 5, in avoid runs before bringing someone into the rotation. As for the hits, they also need to go up to at least a 4-5 before he is ML ready.

06-21-2004, 10:49 PM	#4
player196 Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Medford, OR Posts: 59	If you bring him up now, he has a chance of taking major talent hits.

06-22-2004, 10:48 AM	#9
Ragin Cajun All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atascosita, TX Posts: 1,173	He could be using OOTP6, with the old OOTP5 engine. I've seen a few pitchers with low run ratings, but very high hits, HR and BB ratings do fine. The theory there is if he doesn't give up any baserunners and HR's, he won't give up many runs anyway. __________________ Former NBSL Commissioner: 16 years Former Online League Owner; six time champion

06-22-2004, 02:12 PM	#11
Artermis Minors (Single A) Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 57	I believe if this is the Tas from HTFC that he is using OOTP5 still. Since he is in the NL and away from me...It doesnt matter to me. Take some time and run a couple sims with trying that out. Art