Scoring bugs

JDOldSchool · 06-06-2004, 02:02 AM

Some bugs with how the game is scored...

First - On the sac fly overthrow. If there is a guy on third, less than two outs, sometimes in OOTP the outfielder has a wild throw that goes to the backstop. In real life, the player who hits the ball is credited with a sac fly and RBI. The throw is only an error if there is another runner on base that advances because of the wild throw.

This error affects offensive stats, defensive, and pitching (as the should-be earned run is then counted as unearned).

Another similar issue with errors. I can't recall the exact situation, but sometimes a pitcher is credited with an unearned run when it should be earned. The only thing I can think of as an example may not be the actual situation where the problem arises, but it's the same type of thing: If the catcher throws the ball into center field on a steal attempt and the runner goes to third, the catcher obviously gets an error on the throw. I THINK the game would then give the pitcher an unearned run if that player scores. That is not necessarily the case. It depends on what else happens.

Say there's 2 outs when this happens. If the next hitter drives a double to the gap, well, that run is earned. He would have scored from second on the double (if no error was committed).

On the other hand, if there's just one out when this happens and the hitter hits a deep sac fly, scoring the runner. That would be unearned if the following hitter made an out (but would be earned if that player had a hit).

It's somewhat of a scorer's judgment issue, but it wouldn't be hard to come up with a set rule for certain situations to mostly fix this relatively minor bug.

But first, fix the fact I can't sub for my DH.

thisisme · 06-08-2004, 05:18 PM

Another minor scoring error:

When an infielder commits a throwing error and the batter winds up on second base, the batter is sometimes not credited with an at bat.

Thanks

thisisme · 06-27-2004, 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by thisisme

Another minor scoring error:

When an infielder commits a throwing error and the batter winds up on second base, the batter is sometimes not credited with an at bat.

Thanks

This bug still exists in version 6.03.

JDOldSchool · 07-08-2004, 11:59 PM

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Originally Posted by thisisme

This bug still exists in version 6.03.

Just to confirm - I just saw this bug happen again. It was a ground ball to the third baseman, if that helps. I don't have the actual PBP for it though.

phenom · 07-09-2004, 10:53 AM

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Originally Posted by JDOldSchool

Another similar issue with errors. I can't recall the exact situation, but sometimes a pitcher is credited with an unearned run when it should be earned. The only thing I can think of as an example may not be the actual situation where the problem arises, but it's the same type of thing: If the catcher throws the ball into center field on a steal attempt and the runner goes to third, the catcher obviously gets an error on the throw. I THINK the game would then give the pitcher an unearned run if that player scores. That is not necessarily the case. It depends on what else happens.

This exact situation occured in the Detroit-Minnesota game last night. Pudge threw the ball into center(for an error) when a Twins player was stealing, who then went to third. Eventually the guy scored (on a basehit or something non-error) and it was scored as an earned run.

06-06-2004, 02:02 AM	#1
JDOldSchool Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2003 Posts: 4,023	Scoring bugs Some bugs with how the game is scored... First - On the sac fly overthrow. If there is a guy on third, less than two outs, sometimes in OOTP the outfielder has a wild throw that goes to the backstop. In real life, the player who hits the ball is credited with a sac fly and RBI. The throw is only an error if there is another runner on base that advances because of the wild throw. This error affects offensive stats, defensive, and pitching (as the should-be earned run is then counted as unearned). Another similar issue with errors. I can't recall the exact situation, but sometimes a pitcher is credited with an unearned run when it should be earned. The only thing I can think of as an example may not be the actual situation where the problem arises, but it's the same type of thing: If the catcher throws the ball into center field on a steal attempt and the runner goes to third, the catcher obviously gets an error on the throw. I THINK the game would then give the pitcher an unearned run if that player scores. That is not necessarily the case. It depends on what else happens. Say there's 2 outs when this happens. If the next hitter drives a double to the gap, well, that run is earned. He would have scored from second on the double (if no error was committed). On the other hand, if there's just one out when this happens and the hitter hits a deep sac fly, scoring the runner. That would be unearned if the following hitter made an out (but would be earned if that player had a hit). It's somewhat of a scorer's judgment issue, but it wouldn't be hard to come up with a set rule for certain situations to mostly fix this relatively minor bug. But first, fix the fact I can't sub for my DH.

06-08-2004, 05:18 PM	#2
thisisme Minors (Single A) Join Date: Jun 2004 Posts: 59	Another minor scoring error: When an infielder commits a throwing error and the batter winds up on second base, the batter is sometimes not credited with an at bat. Thanks