Korean Name Files

dougaiton · 05-26-2004, 03:23 PM

I bet I know what you guys have been thinking. 'I'd love to run a Korean league, but the Asian names file is mostly Japanese! What can I do?'

Well, now I can make available the 'korean name file set'!. It is, of course, not without its problems. First off, Korean surnames do not vary - in fact, around 20 cover 60% of the population. There's only 68 surnames in surname file. This is a problem.

Of course, that's only if you Europeanise the name (as has been done with Byung-Hyung Kim and Chan-Ho Park) by putting the surname last. If you want to avoid the problem, or you've got the 'when in Rome' syndrome, swap the names around

I know nothing about Korea or Korean society, so if I have done something ludicrously stupid, please tell me.

I tried to collect some logos from the Korean Baseball League website and ran into 2 problems: one, they're all in Korean, and two, they're such wonderful websites that they are so full of flash animations you can't find an image that just sits still.

Hopefully, these will be of use to someone. Don't forget my Scottish name file either - you could run a Highland/Korean league!

Shorty · 05-26-2004, 08:59 PM

thanks doug, i am always creating name files, cool to see you've been doing them too

dougaiton · 05-26-2004, 09:39 PM

Well, I was of course inspired by your gorgeous work for the JBL. My impetus to make the Korean files was so I could use your wonderful facepacks in a new setting!

Malleus Dei · 05-27-2004, 12:35 AM

LOL.

Malleus Dei · 05-27-2004, 12:38 AM

Where's the link to the Highland name file?

dougaiton · 05-27-2004, 04:48 AM

I can't believe I didn't post it. Anyway, here they are again, slightly updated. They'e still far from perfect (too many Mac/Mcs) and past the first 100 surnames they aren't weighted. Moreover, I need to get more first names (mental note to self).

Anyway, here we go:

Antonin · 05-27-2004, 10:11 AM

Where did you get your names? I have a Korean name file also. If you don't think yours is complete, I could email you mine and you could combine the two, if you want.

BTW I haven't DLd yours yet...

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Ethnically accurate name files matter! (with apologies to LGO)

dougaiton · 05-27-2004, 10:25 AM

Excellent! I make my name files by getting a graded list of popular names - so the surnames are to top 68 ranked with numerical values. For first names, I couldn't find any such lists, so I go scouring, and I collect all the first names I can find from football squads, baseball squads, staff lists etc. then give them all a default value of 1. There's 450+ first names, but only 68 surnames (for the reasons listed)

Feel free to just download them, add mine to yours and post them back up with a new snazzy name in a new thread!

Great to hear others are doing the same thing!

JoeRockEHF · 05-27-2004, 10:35 AM

Anyone have a names file for like the 1700's, 1800's, and 1900's? I've been thinking about starting a league in 1790 in early USA and running it all the way to the present and beyond.

I just thought it'd be a bit weird seeing Japanese and Latino players on early American teams.

dougaiton · 05-27-2004, 10:44 AM

Mal himself has an excellent historical names file at BBSimCentral. It's down, so you might want to email him.

scpride just compiled a historical nicknames list from Lahman's database. It's in the forum, somewhere!

Antonin · 05-27-2004, 11:04 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by dougaiton
Mal himself has an excellent historical names file at BBSimCentral. It's down, so you might want to email him.

Nah. He's on my "ignore" list.

WSCubs · 06-12-2004, 04:48 PM

how can i incorporate these into a league file so that the name are genrated and added to real rosters?

dougaiton · 06-12-2004, 06:23 PM

If you unzip them and copy them into the DATA folder, changing them to 'names' and fnames, or 'anames' and 'afnames', or 'lanames' or 'lafnames' depending on the frequency you want them, and all newly created players (rookies etc) will come out in Korean.

WSCubs · 06-13-2004, 01:08 PM

just change the name of the files then???????? how do I know which ones will be use often?

davwms · 06-14-2004, 08:03 AM

I am working on a program that will generate new names and origins for all players. It will only modify players that are created as fictional players by OOTP. So, you could run it every season and it will only change new players. You will also be able to set how often each nationality is generated, and I plan on including a number of different nationalities.

dougaiton · 06-14-2004, 08:45 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by davwms
I am working on a program that will generate new names and origins for all players. It will only modify players that are created as fictional players by OOTP. So, you could run it every season and it will only change new players. You will also be able to set how often each nationality is generated, and I plan on including a number of different nationalities.

davwms,

If it will help you at all, feel free to use my Scottish and Korean name files with that. It sounds like a great project!

dougaiton · 06-14-2004, 08:46 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by WSCubs
just change the name of the files then???????? how do I know which ones will be use often?

names and fnames represent the American names in your normal OOTP. They will make up around 60% of players.

lanames and lafnames represent Hispanic names. They make up about 35%.

anames and afnames represent Asian names. THey make up about 5%.

Hope that is some help!

05-26-2004, 08:59 PM	#2
Shorty All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Cincinnati, Ohio Posts: 992	thanks doug, i am always creating name files, cool to see you've been doing them too __________________ Here we go Redlegs here we go!

05-26-2004, 09:39 PM	#3
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	Well, I was of course inspired by your gorgeous work for the JBL. My impetus to make the Korean files was so I could use your wonderful facepacks in a new setting! __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

05-27-2004, 10:11 AM	#7
Antonin Hall Of Famer Join Date: Nov 2002 Location: Ohio Posts: 2,553	Where did you get your names? I have a Korean name file also. If you don't think yours is complete, I could email you mine and you could combine the two, if you want. BTW I haven't DLd yours yet... -------------------- Ethnically accurate name files matter! (with apologies to LGO) __________________ "Ever get the feeling you've been cheated?" - Johnny Rotten (Sex Pistols), San Francisco, 14 January 1978

05-27-2004, 10:25 AM	#8
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	Excellent! I make my name files by getting a graded list of popular names - so the surnames are to top 68 ranked with numerical values. For first names, I couldn't find any such lists, so I go scouring, and I collect all the first names I can find from football squads, baseball squads, staff lists etc. then give them all a default value of 1. There's 450+ first names, but only 68 surnames (for the reasons listed) Feel free to just download them, add mine to yours and post them back up with a new snazzy name in a new thread! Great to hear others are doing the same thing! __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

05-27-2004, 10:35 AM	#9
JoeRockEHF All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Niles, MI Posts: 933	Anyone have a names file for like the 1700's, 1800's, and 1900's? I've been thinking about starting a league in 1790 in early USA and running it all the way to the present and beyond. I just thought it'd be a bit weird seeing Japanese and Latino players on early American teams. __________________ PSN: JoeRockEHF

05-27-2004, 10:44 AM	#10
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	Mal himself has an excellent historical names file at BBSimCentral. It's down, so you might want to email him. scpride just compiled a historical nicknames list from Lahman's database. It's in the forum, somewhere! __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

06-12-2004, 04:48 PM	#12
WSCubs Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: OHIO Posts: 68	how can i incorporate these into a league file so that the name are genrated and added to real rosters?

06-12-2004, 06:23 PM	#13
dougaiton Hall Of Famer Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Location: Posts: 3,414	If you unzip them and copy them into the DATA folder, changing them to 'names' and fnames, or 'anames' and 'afnames', or 'lanames' or 'lafnames' depending on the frequency you want them, and all newly created players (rookies etc) will come out in Korean. __________________ tThis shower of clowns My park-adjusted, historically split Born in '69 league file! (also at Joe's wonderful site +BBSC)

06-13-2004, 01:08 PM	#14
WSCubs Minors (Single A) Join Date: Feb 2004 Location: OHIO Posts: 68	just change the name of the files then???????? how do I know which ones will be use often?

06-14-2004, 08:03 AM	#15
davwms All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Clyde, NY Posts: 1,506	I am working on a program that will generate new names and origins for all players. It will only modify players that are created as fictional players by OOTP. So, you could run it every season and it will only change new players. You will also be able to set how often each nationality is generated, and I plan on including a number of different nationalities. __________________ Lemme tell you the first rule of politics; Always know if the juice is worth the squeeze. ~Kelly (AKA Timoty Oyphant), The Girl Next Door (2004)