Career Ending Injury Freqency

PhillyFan2578 · 05-11-2004, 02:53 PM

The frequency of players suffering a career ending injury in OOTP6 is RIDICULOUS!! Last week in one league, I lost two AAA players (one of which was a top 15 prospect and I had groomed for 5 years) to career enders. The week before another owner lost a player for his career and in the box scores/injury log it doesn't specify when the injury occured. A fellow owner has also lost 2 ML players this season to career ending injuries and we aren't even in June yet!!

I refuse to play this game until this problem is addressed and corrected!!

Gastric ReFlux · 05-11-2004, 02:58 PM

I wish there were an easy to increase them. How did you get so lucky?

Sweed · 05-11-2004, 03:12 PM

Sounds like a string of bad luck, if it were a huge problem there would be a lot more posts I would think. I've only had one career ending injury on my team playing solo in about 7 seasons. A first round pitcher blew out the arm in his first season in A ball. To bad too because he was going to be a good one.

mh2365 · 05-11-2004, 03:13 PM

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Originally posted by PhillyFan2578

I refuse to play this game until this problem is addressed and corrected!!

2nd post and already refusing to play until they fix something to your liking ..... Does your mom still give in and buy you "My Little Pony" when you throw yourself on Wal-Mart's floor and pitch a tantrum. Scrap this ID get yourself yet another alias and start over because you're officially a putz with this alias.

For the record I am almost positive that the CEI's in the game are no where near the number of actual one's in real-life or at least the "2-3 season injuries where they don't come back 1/2 as good as they once were" injuries.

octones · 05-11-2004, 06:05 PM

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Originally posted by mh2365
2nd post and already refusing to play until they fix something to your liking ..... Does your mom still give in and buy you "My Little Pony" when you throw yourself on Wal-Mart's floor and pitch a tantrum. Scrap this ID get yourself yet another alias and start over because you're officially a putz with this alias.

You, sir, are an idiot. I happen to have known Philly here for the past 3 or 4 years. So, why don't you scrap your ID and start yourself over because you just made yourself a putz.

Big Train · 05-11-2004, 06:13 PM

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Originally posted by PhillyFan2578
The frequency of players suffering a career ending injury in OOTP6 is RIDICULOUS!! Last week in one league, I lost two AAA players (one of which was a top 15 prospect and I had groomed for 5 years) to career enders. The week before another owner lost a player for his career and in the box scores/injury log it doesn't specify when the injury occured. A fellow owner has also lost 2 ML players this season to career ending injuries and we aren't even in June yet!!

I refuse to play this game until this problem is addressed and corrected!!

Why don't you try following real baseball for a while. Career ending injuries happen quite frequently. I'm glad if they increased the frquency in OOTP6 I always found it a little low.

And I'm sure your refusal to play the game until they fix the "problem" for you will be a great concern to Markus and everyone else here. After all this whole game just exists to make *you* happy.

Tavarin · 05-11-2004, 06:14 PM

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Originally posted by PhillyFan2578
The frequency of players suffering a career ending injury in OOTP6 is RIDICULOUS!! Last week in one league, I lost two AAA players (one of which was a top 15 prospect and I had groomed for 5 years) to career enders. The week before another owner lost a player for his career and in the box scores/injury log it doesn't specify when the injury occured. A fellow owner has also lost 2 ML players this season to career ending injuries and we aren't even in June yet!!

I refuse to play this game until this problem is addressed and corrected!!

Actually, Brian, we've only have 9 career or season ending injuries, and only 2 of those were career ending

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2nd post and already refusing to play until they fix something to your liking ..... Does your mom still give in and buy you "My Little Pony" when you throw yourself on Wal-Mart's floor and pitch a tantrum. Scrap this ID get yourself yet another alias and start over because you're officially a putz with this alias.

For the record I am almost positive that the CEI's in the game are no where near the number of actual one's in real-life or at least the "2-3 season injuries where they don't come back 1/2 as good as they once were" injuries.

Grow up, post counts don't signify anything

JoeyVLDZ · 05-11-2004, 06:46 PM

I've noticed in one of my solo leagues CEI happen quite frequently. I also see very few in another one of my solo leagues so my guess is that it is completely random.

TheBishop · 05-11-2004, 08:26 PM

I'd like to defend Philly here. He's been in the BBSC leagues for a long time and is a very active owner. It's not like he's a noob with this game, just hasn't posted here much.

That said, I don't think the game has a huge problem with injuries. I think this was just bad luck on his team's behalf. While I have seen an increase in CEI's in my personal leagues, I don't think I've had way too many. 5-6 per year, which isn't bad compared to real baseball. and that's on all the team's, not one.

Regardless, it sucks to lose an active member anytime it happens.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 05-11-2004, 09:12 PM

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Originally posted by Big Train
Why don't you try following real baseball for a while. Career ending injuries happen quite frequently. I'm glad if they increased the frquency in OOTP6 I always found it a little low.

Agreed 100%. I always play with injuries set to "high," to make the game a bit more realistic. I think even "high" gives too few.

By the way, Philly, if you're not happy with the frequency, set it lower. It's called "customization." It works.

kingpin1976 · 05-11-2004, 10:59 PM

Mines set at normal frequency and my first year there were 5 CEI's but I'm in my 8th season and the average CEI/season is down to about 2.8 not to bas in my opinion.

mh2365 · 05-11-2004, 11:28 PM

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Originally posted by octones
You, sir, are an idiot. I happen to have known Philly here for the past 3 or 4 years. So, why don't you scrap your ID and start yourself over because you just made yourself a putz.

Nice comeback ... The guy has 2 posts .... Anyone who throws out the game is unplayable because of injuries when it is completely adjustable is hilarious ....

Anyone who throws out the "I won't play your game anymore until you fix something that I want" is an idiot ...

This board has way too many aliases and people continue to make new ones just to say something that they don't have the nuts to say under their normal id ..... If phillyfan2578 has been around forever yet only has two posts then my apologies ...

But no apology for cracking him on his "it's my ball and I'm going home" crybaby post ..... If he had just posted a constructive post stating that he felt the injuries were too high great he'd of gotten alot of response but with the attitude and only 2 posts he deserves to get cracked ... I wish him the best

jte87 · 05-12-2004, 12:11 AM

No question, if you come on here and use the "I'm not playing anymore" strategy, you are a loser, even if you have 2500 posts. I don't have many and haven't played the game before this version, but I have the sense to know that.

Guess what? You bought the game! How often you play doesn't matter to anybody after that. Oh, boo hoo, you won't buy it next year. Everyone else's lives will go on.

Tavarin · 05-12-2004, 01:09 AM

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Originally posted by mh2365
Nice comeback ... The guy has 2 posts .... Anyone who throws out the game is unplayable because of injuries when it is completely adjustable is hilarious ....

Anyone who throws out the "I won't play your game anymore until you fix something that I want" is an idiot ...

This board has way too many aliases and people continue to make new ones just to say something that they don't have the nuts to say under their normal id ..... If phillyfan2578 has been around forever yet only has two posts then my apologies ...

But no apology for cracking him on his "it's my ball and I'm going home" crybaby post ..... If he had just posted a constructive post stating that he felt the injuries were too high great he'd of gotten alot of response but with the attitude and only 2 posts he deserves to get cracked ... I wish him the best

The amount of posts someone has is meaningless to whether or not they know what they are talking about. And even if they weren't, come to BBSC, which has covered all kinds of sports games, including back to at least OOTP4. Phillyfan has 18,000 posts, and that's not counting a 3-4 month stretch which was lost where he had at least 2000 more. Philly knows his stuff, and while he may be overreacting, you don't have to jump down his throat

Also, if you want constructive posts, how about you start out the cycle by making constructive replies? Give some useful advice instead of saying "You're a crybaby"

mh2365 · 05-12-2004, 01:30 AM

The two worst posts on this board IMO are "the game is unplayable" and "I won't play it anymore until you fix this" 99/100 these two quotes are posted over relatively minor issues or (like this) non-issues..... Phillyfan offered no other evidence than 1 season in one league and states the game is unplayable .... The way he posts makes it sound like spoiled milk because it happened to his players.

He offers no evidence that this is an ongoing problem ... no evidence that he tested it through various sims .... no evidence that he tested it with the in-game custom slider .... This is an customizable option for christ sake ...

Instead he had a rough start to the season so he comes and claims that the injuries in the game are RIDICULOUS and he won't play anymore until Markus fixes something that there has been little or no complaints about.

So while he may be the greatest thing since sliced bread on every other site known to mankind, Phillyfan came on this board (the actual game site board) and acted like a baby. Now all his homies from other boards are coming to his defense. I understand that, if he doesn't act like this on the other boards. So I guess I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he posted like a ****** in a moment of anger.

There is your constructive reply.

Eckstein 4 Prez · 05-12-2004, 01:35 AM

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Originally posted by PhillyFan2578
The week before another owner lost a player for his career and in the box scores/injury log it doesn't specify when the injury occured.

In the interest of salvaging something useful from this thread, this has been a concern of mine for some time (this problem also occurred in V5). If a minor league player goes down with a serious injury, it should show up in the news/injury log.

mh2365 · 05-12-2004, 01:53 AM

I agree 100% Eck

octones · 05-12-2004, 08:53 AM

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Originally posted by Eckstein 4 Prez
In the interest of salvaging something useful from this thread, this has been a concern of mine for some time (this problem also occurred in V5). If a minor league player goes down with a serious injury, it should show up in the news/injury log.

Well that player was actually Brian Giles who was in the ML at the time. That's the 2nd time (that I know of) that it has happened in about 10 years of sim time between our leagues (in v5 and v6).

Sorry for my reaction earlier, but I have a pet peeve with people bashing people with little post counts. Didn't help that I know him either

PhillyFan2578 · 05-12-2004, 10:54 AM

Speaking of the maturity level, I see it's pretty high over here.

I've been playing OOTP since 2002 and have been an active member in other leagues and forums before that time. I never posted over here before because I never had any gripes about the game.

In our league the injury rating is set to "normal". Obviously not being commish, I have no power as to what level it is set at. In one league since our conversion to OOTP6 we are on May 20th roughly. We're seeing an average of 3 injuries per sim day in our league. I'm sorry, but I've been watching baseball for 26 years and I don't ever recall a time where the injury frequency was that high. In that month and a half of simming we have had 3 CEI's and 2 SEI's (Note that the league file isn't updated so I don't know what happened this past sim). Two of those CEI's were from my team last week, both players in AAA, both on the same sim week (same day possibly). Randomization, I tend to disagree.

I'm at work so I don't have the ability to check the latest file on the accuracy of those days. I could probably deal with two CEI's in one season, but not the same week.

And as for the "I'm not playing this game anymore" sentiment; sometimes we say things in the heat of the moment that we don't necessarily mean. I don't know if this is a problem with conversions from OOTP5, but at least in my mind it's still a problem.

mh2365 · 05-12-2004, 11:42 AM

Thanks for clarifying Phillyfan ... I apologize for overreacting also we just get way too may aliases that post just to say stupid stuff, which was the only thing the low post count meant to me.....

Like I said in my previous post I would back off and give you the benefit of the doubt ....

It's a pet peeve of mine when people use the two quotes I posted earlier over preference issues instead of real things like bugs that cause the game to crash so I tend to get on my high horse when I see those words ....

05-11-2004, 02:53 PM	#1
PhillyFan2578 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 8	Career Ending Injury Freqency The frequency of players suffering a career ending injury in OOTP6 is RIDICULOUS!! Last week in one league, I lost two AAA players (one of which was a top 15 prospect and I had groomed for 5 years) to career enders. The week before another owner lost a player for his career and in the box scores/injury log it doesn't specify when the injury occured. A fellow owner has also lost 2 ML players this season to career ending injuries and we aren't even in June yet!! I refuse to play this game until this problem is addressed and corrected!!

05-11-2004, 02:58 PM	#2
Gastric ReFlux Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Member #3409 Posts: 8,350	I wish there were an easy to increase them. How did you get so lucky?

05-11-2004, 06:46 PM	#8
JoeyVLDZ Bat Boy Join Date: Aug 2003 Posts: 1	I've noticed in one of my solo leagues CEI happen quite frequently. I also see very few in another one of my solo leagues so my guess is that it is completely random.

05-11-2004, 08:26 PM	#9
TheBishop Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 165	I'd like to defend Philly here. He's been in the BBSC leagues for a long time and is a very active owner. It's not like he's a noob with this game, just hasn't posted here much. That said, I don't think the game has a huge problem with injuries. I think this was just bad luck on his team's behalf. While I have seen an increase in CEI's in my personal leagues, I don't think I've had way too many. 5-6 per year, which isn't bad compared to real baseball. and that's on all the team's, not one. Regardless, it sucks to lose an active member anytime it happens.

05-11-2004, 10:59 PM	#11
kingpin1976 Major Leagues Join Date: Oct 2003 Posts: 402	Mines set at normal frequency and my first year there were 5 CEI's but I'm in my 8th season and the average CEI/season is down to about 2.8 not to bas in my opinion.

05-12-2004, 12:11 AM	#13
jte87 Major Leagues Join Date: Mar 2004 Posts: 305	No question, if you come on here and use the "I'm not playing anymore" strategy, you are a loser, even if you have 2500 posts. I don't have many and haven't played the game before this version, but I have the sense to know that. Guess what? You bought the game! How often you play doesn't matter to anybody after that. Oh, boo hoo, you won't buy it next year. Everyone else's lives will go on.

05-12-2004, 01:30 AM	#15
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	The two worst posts on this board IMO are "the game is unplayable" and "I won't play it anymore until you fix this" 99/100 these two quotes are posted over relatively minor issues or (like this) non-issues..... Phillyfan offered no other evidence than 1 season in one league and states the game is unplayable .... The way he posts makes it sound like spoiled milk because it happened to his players. He offers no evidence that this is an ongoing problem ... no evidence that he tested it through various sims .... no evidence that he tested it with the in-game custom slider .... This is an customizable option for christ sake ... Instead he had a rough start to the season so he comes and claims that the injuries in the game are RIDICULOUS and he won't play anymore until Markus fixes something that there has been little or no complaints about. So while he may be the greatest thing since sliced bread on every other site known to mankind, Phillyfan came on this board (the actual game site board) and acted like a baby. Now all his homies from other boards are coming to his defense. I understand that, if he doesn't act like this on the other boards. So I guess I'll give him the benefit of the doubt and say he posted like a ****** in a moment of anger. There is your constructive reply.

05-12-2004, 01:53 AM	#17
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	I agree 100% Eck

05-12-2004, 10:54 AM	#19
PhillyFan2578 Bat Boy Join Date: May 2004 Location: Yardley, PA Posts: 8	Speaking of the maturity level, I see it's pretty high over here. I've been playing OOTP since 2002 and have been an active member in other leagues and forums before that time. I never posted over here before because I never had any gripes about the game. In our league the injury rating is set to "normal". Obviously not being commish, I have no power as to what level it is set at. In one league since our conversion to OOTP6 we are on May 20th roughly. We're seeing an average of 3 injuries per sim day in our league. I'm sorry, but I've been watching baseball for 26 years and I don't ever recall a time where the injury frequency was that high. In that month and a half of simming we have had 3 CEI's and 2 SEI's (Note that the league file isn't updated so I don't know what happened this past sim). Two of those CEI's were from my team last week, both players in AAA, both on the same sim week (same day possibly). Randomization, I tend to disagree. I'm at work so I don't have the ability to check the latest file on the accuracy of those days. I could probably deal with two CEI's in one season, but not the same week. And as for the "I'm not playing this game anymore" sentiment; sometimes we say things in the heat of the moment that we don't necessarily mean. I don't know if this is a problem with conversions from OOTP5, but at least in my mind it's still a problem.

05-12-2004, 11:42 AM	#20
mh2365 Banned Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: louisville Posts: 14,941 Infractions: 0/2 (101)	Thanks for clarifying Phillyfan ... I apologize for overreacting also we just get way too may aliases that post just to say stupid stuff, which was the only thing the low post count meant to me..... Like I said in my previous post I would back off and give you the benefit of the doubt .... It's a pet peeve of mine when people use the two quotes I posted earlier over preference issues instead of real things like bugs that cause the game to crash so I tend to get on my high horse when I see those words ....