Career Stats Limitations BUG

[metsgeek]

I'm not sure if you'd consider this a bug....but I do.

I decided to run a Historical Replay with the Aging Rate set at -100 to see how it would affect the game and see the totals that developed.

I've simmed through 1927 and have only one problem. Players seem to max out at 25 seasons. After they hit their 25th season, they continue to play, but their Career Totals don't continue to pile up.

As an example, here is Sam Crawford, who is still playing in the majors at age 47. I'm using Ankit's Career Database, and I started in 1911. As a result the stats for 1901-10 are identical.

#43 Sam "Wahoo sam" Crawford, Rightfield, 47 yrs, Detroit Tigers
Tuesday, 3/2/1928

Contract & Roster Status 
 
Contract :	Big League Contract
Salary :	$ 10,190,000
Signed Through : 1929
Years of MLB Service : 27 Year(s), 131 Days (4775 total Days)
MLB Service Days this Year : 0 Day(s)
Years on 40-Man Roster : 29 Year(s), 42 Days (5030 total Days)
Years of Pro Service : 30 Year(s)
 
Career Batting Stats  
 
Year     G    AB    H  2B  3B  HR  RBI    R   BB   K  SB  CS  AVG  OBP  SLG  OPS Teams 
1900   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 CIN 
1901   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 CIN 
1902   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 CIN 
1903   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 DET 
1904   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 DET 
1905   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 DET 
1906   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 DET 
1907   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 DET 
1908   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 DET 
1909   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 DET 
1910   138   525  162  25  17   5   84   76   42   6  20   2 .309 .360 .450 .809 DET 
1911   138   549  181  33  14   2  103   85   44  18  47  16 .330 .379 .452 .831 DET,AL 
1912   144   562  167  32  17   2  115   79   48  26  37  11 .297 .352 .425 .778 DET,AL 
1913   145   568  195  33  12  16  135  112   56  15  44  15 .343 .402 .528 .930 DET,AL 
1914   119   447  136  29   2   3   78   61   44  19  35  15 .304 .367 .398 .765 DET 
1915   145   547  150  19  11   9   71   71   50  15  43  11 .274 .335 .399 .734 DET 
1916   146   538  160  27  10   4   73   71   48  21  43  22 .297 .355 .407 .762 DET,AL 
1917   142   538  155  31   5   3   67   67   56  12  38  14 .288 .355 .381 .736 DET,AL 
1918   142   557  141  29   5   3   82   71   43  17  32  13 .253 .307 .339 .646 DET 
1919   144   566  168  29   8   4   81   72   38   6  42  12 .297 .341 .398 .739 DET 
1920   131   518  169  44  19   1  103   80   47   6  34  19 .326 .382 .490 .873 DET 
1921   144   560  180  32  13   7  107  101   45   9  40  21 .321 .372 .463 .834 DET 
1922   143   566  191  38  14   2   94   92   52  13  40  10 .337 .393 .465 .858 DET,AL 
1923   149   569  171  23  18   5   89   79   38   9   3   6 .301 .344 .431 .775 DET,AL 
1924   144   523  155  32   9   8   99   68   44  11   3   6 .296 .351 .438 .789 DET 

Total 3494 13383 4101 706 344 124 2221 1945 1115 263 701 213 .306 .360 .438 .798

As you can see by the lines I have marked in RED he has been in the majors for over 27 years, but his stats stop at 1924 (i.e. his 25th season). He had nearly 400 AB in 1927, so it's obvious they're not adding to his totals.

Of course, you would almost never see a player reach 25 seasons in a normal league, but since the option is available to slow down (or speed up) the aging process, I would expect the game to support any potential results. Maybe it should allow for 40 seasons.

By the way, does -100 Aging mean that there is no aging whatsoever? Could we get a more specific explanation of how it affects the "aging process"?

[Le Grande Orange]

I think this is a database limit in the game. If I remember right, when the career player stats were added in OOTP5, there was a built-in limit of 25 years of tracking due to database size requirements. Markus felt that in nearly all cases 25 years would exceed the actual career length a player would be likely to have.

It sounds like this same 25 year limit is still in place in OOTP6.

[Steve Kuffrey]

This is correct, 25 season limit in storage.

[metsgeek]

Originally posted by Steve Kuffrey
This is correct, 25 season limit in storage.

That's understandable, but it does reduce the impact of changing the aging process. So, am I to assume that it won't get changed to 30 years or so?

And can someone answer my question about how the aging process is actually affected by quantifying it? Is the aging process changed in terms of percentage?

[treedom]

this is not good...it kinda makes the aging adjustment feature pointless

[Dagrims]

Nolan Ryan, Tommy John and Deacon McGuire were cited for protesting out in front of OOTP Headquarters.

[Steve Kuffrey]

Originally posted by treedom
this is not good...it kinda makes the aging adjustment feature pointless

I wouldn't say "pointless" but does minimize it's use and effectiveness.