Fictional facepack (opinions needed) and 2004 stadium project

edm · 03-30-2004, 11:47 PM

Hey all, I just wanted to get some thoughts on a fictional facepack I am going to start working on, once ootp6 is released. It will be a fictional facepack using faces and minor league uniforms from MVP2004. I just want to get some opinions on how much they should be cropped/zoomed, since this is my first attempt at a facepack.

I took 4 shots of each player, each one zoomed at a different level. Here's the screen shot. Does it really make a difference to anyone which one to use? Should I mix them up? I'm kind of torn between the second and third myself.

Also, once I get all the stadium mods for MVP installed (real ads, logos, modded grass, etc.) I am going to release a stadium update using stadiums from MVP.

Here are a couple examples

Citz Bank
Fenway

Jordan · 03-31-2004, 12:02 AM

I LOVE The facepack idea

However, I believe someone else is doing a ballpark pack using MVP Baseball. I don't know if this changes anything, but I absolutely LOVE the facepack idea.

Cuss16 · 03-31-2004, 12:06 AM

I like the first picture for the face pack. I personally dont like the idea of mixing them up since it would look as uniformed that way. Awsome work!

Vris · 03-31-2004, 01:15 AM

If it is going to be a fictional league, then I think the logos should be off the uniforms. I know it's just the minor leagues, but still.

Jonzard · 03-31-2004, 02:00 AM

I say 2nd or 4th

Wilt · 03-31-2004, 03:23 AM

The players look kind of creepy!

alinkens · 03-31-2004, 05:22 AM

I would go with the most zoomed in

tim_uwrf · 03-31-2004, 09:39 AM

2 or 3, leave logos

koohead · 03-31-2004, 10:14 AM

My vote is for number 2 first, then 3...but that's for selfish reasons of course! But what happended to the poll?????

Looking forward to both of your projects!

Eugene Church · 04-01-2004, 05:17 PM

All the faces are very well done...prefer 4 because only the logo on the hat shows. This would fit better with fictional leagues.

I currently use Killebrew's collection of real players and it has added a lot to my league enjoyment, putting a face with a name.

How many photos do you intend to do?

Peanut 11 · 04-01-2004, 11:37 PM

Hey EDM, great job.

How do you get screenshots in MVP? just print screen, or another button?

Thanks.

edm · 04-03-2004, 02:21 AM

Thanks all help all. I think I'll go with the 3rd photo layout for the face pack.

Eugene Church, I took a quick look through EA's faces and there are around 500 custom faces. So at least that many. More can be created using the face maker if needed though. What's a good number to have for most leagues?

I will do the first set using minor league uniforms. but, if I'm not burnt out by the end of those, I may do another set using logo-less Major league unis (no logo's on the shirt or hat).

I did see Ankit's 2004 stadiums set after I posted. I will still be doing a set (night and day) if not for anyone else, for my own use. They will be a little different than Ankit however, so hopefully that will be ok. They will have real ads, modded grass, etc. I am also going to include the 8 classic parks and the 6 minor league parks (minor league parks are fictional).

Peanut 11, I use fraps

JoeRockEHF · 04-03-2004, 08:46 AM

Fraps is what I used for High Heat 2004 as well. Very good program.

Eugene Church · 04-03-2004, 01:27 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by edm

Eugene Church, I took a quick look through EA's faces and there are around 500 custom faces. So at least that many. More can be created using the face maker if needed though. What's a good number to have for most leagues?

This is the first league I have ever used player photos. I have 20 teams with about 1400 players, majors and minors.

Killebrew's will take care of me for about 4 more seasons, then I will need add some.

Is it possible to intermix photos from different sources?...that is, could I add your 500 to the game's photo folder and use them?

If so, would I have to renumber each new photo, beginning with the last number of the current photos?

Or will the game automatically renumber them...picking up where the first collection ended?

Sorry, not very computer literate...so these might be ignorant questions.

Rowleyball · 04-08-2004, 05:21 PM

Eugene,

I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to use photos from different sources (I've never tried it), but you would probably have to re-number each one. It won't automatically re-number them, at least as far as I know.

In my leagues I don't give photos to every player, only those who make an all-star team, win an award, or do something special. I assign a player a photo and name the photo with the player's name instead of number because his number changes after he retires. If you're leaving the photos as player numbers instead of names, that's something you'll run into when they start retiring.

twins15 · 04-08-2004, 07:59 PM

My vote would be for #3 or #4, but any of them would work. If you do make the photo set, I would definitely use them, that is just what I was looking for!

Eugene Church · 04-08-2004, 11:33 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Rowleyball
I assign a player a photo and name the photo with the player's name instead of number because his number changes after he retires. If you're leaving the photos as player numbers instead of names, that's something you'll run into when they start retiring.

If player number 1500 retires, are you saying that the game will reuse that number for a new player?

Does that mean player 1500 who might go into the Hall of Fame will not have a photo, it will be assigned to the new number 1500?

Is there any consequence for retirees that are just journeyman players and not superstars? Will they not have a photo any longer?

Rowleyball · 04-09-2004, 04:19 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Eugene Church
If player number 1500 retires, are you saying that the game will reuse that number for a new player?

Does that mean player 1500 who might go into the Hall of Fame will not have a photo, it will be assigned to the new number 1500?

Is there any consequence for retirees that are just journeyman players and not superstars? Will they not have a photo any longer?

Hmm, I think I'm remembering this correctly. Maybe someone can confirm this for me.

I thought that after retiring a player's number changed, but looking back at an old long-time solo league it l'm not sure if that's true. What I do know is that there was some problem with players' IDs getting re-used, so maybe it was that the photo was being used twice, once for the retired player and once for the rookie who was just drafted.

So if that's right, player 1500 will keep his photo but a young player who just got drafted will also be using that picture. Can someone else confirm this? I'm not completely sure.

koohead · 04-18-2004, 06:29 AM

Hey edm...any update on this? Are you still working on this minor league fictional facepack?

03-30-2004, 11:47 PM	#1
edm All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,999	Fictional facepack (opinions needed) and 2004 stadium project Hey all, I just wanted to get some thoughts on a fictional facepack I am going to start working on, once ootp6 is released. It will be a fictional facepack using faces and minor league uniforms from MVP2004. I just want to get some opinions on how much they should be cropped/zoomed, since this is my first attempt at a facepack. I took 4 shots of each player, each one zoomed at a different level. Here's the screen shot. Does it really make a difference to anyone which one to use? Should I mix them up? I'm kind of torn between the second and third myself. Also, once I get all the stadium mods for MVP installed (real ads, logos, modded grass, etc.) I am going to release a stadium update using stadiums from MVP. Here are a couple examples Citz Bank Fenway Last edited by edm; 03-31-2004 at 12:11 AM.

03-31-2004, 02:00 AM	#5
Jonzard Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minnesota Posts: 3,647	I say 2nd or 4th __________________ For a scientist must indeed be freely imaginative and yet skeptical, creative and yet a critic. There is a sense in which he must be free, but another in which his thought must be very precisely regimented; there is poetry in science, but also a lot of bookkeeping. — Sir Peter B. Medawar FTB

03-31-2004, 03:23 AM	#6
Wilt Minors (Double A) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: in the paint Posts: 179	The players look kind of creepy! __________________ Blank until I can find my tripping penguin again!

03-31-2004, 05:22 AM	#7
alinkens All Star Starter Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: CT Posts: 1,072	I would go with the most zoomed in __________________ Owner of the Coast to Coast League's Regina Pride

03-31-2004, 10:14 AM	#9
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,211	My vote is for number 2 first, then 3...but that's for selfish reasons of course! But what happended to the poll????? Looking forward to both of your projects! __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;

03-31-2004, 12:02 AM	#2
Jordan All Star Starter Join Date: Jul 2003 Location: Chi Suburbs now... Posts: 1,992	I LOVE The facepack idea However, I believe someone else is doing a ballpark pack using MVP Baseball. I don't know if this changes anything, but I absolutely LOVE the facepack idea.

03-31-2004, 12:06 AM	#3
Cuss16 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2002 Location: BC, CANADA Posts: 2,994	I like the first picture for the face pack. I personally dont like the idea of mixing them up since it would look as uniformed that way. Awsome work! __________________

03-31-2004, 01:15 AM	#4
Vris Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: somewhere where I don't know where I am Posts: 3,251	If it is going to be a fictional league, then I think the logos should be off the uniforms. I know it's just the minor leagues, but still. __________________ None Blog it.

03-31-2004, 09:39 AM	#8
tim_uwrf Hall Of Famer Join Date: Sep 2003 Location: Field of Dreams Posts: 1,998	2 or 3, leave logos

04-01-2004, 05:17 PM	#10
Eugene Church Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Posts: 36,047	All the faces are very well done...prefer 4 because only the logo on the hat shows. This would fit better with fictional leagues. I currently use Killebrew's collection of real players and it has added a lot to my league enjoyment, putting a face with a name. How many photos do you intend to do?

04-01-2004, 11:37 PM	#11
Peanut 11 Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: May 2003 Posts: 20	Hey EDM, great job. How do you get screenshots in MVP? just print screen, or another button? Thanks.

04-03-2004, 02:21 AM	#12
edm All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Philadelphia, PA Posts: 1,999	Thanks all help all. I think I'll go with the 3rd photo layout for the face pack. Eugene Church, I took a quick look through EA's faces and there are around 500 custom faces. So at least that many. More can be created using the face maker if needed though. What's a good number to have for most leagues? I will do the first set using minor league uniforms. but, if I'm not burnt out by the end of those, I may do another set using logo-less Major league unis (no logo's on the shirt or hat). I did see Ankit's 2004 stadiums set after I posted. I will still be doing a set (night and day) if not for anyone else, for my own use. They will be a little different than Ankit however, so hopefully that will be ok. They will have real ads, modded grass, etc. I am also going to include the 8 classic parks and the 6 minor league parks (minor league parks are fictional). Peanut 11, I use fraps

04-03-2004, 08:46 AM	#13
JoeRockEHF All Star Reserve Join Date: Sep 2002 Location: Niles, MI Posts: 933	Fraps is what I used for High Heat 2004 as well. Very good program. __________________ PSN: JoeRockEHF

04-08-2004, 05:21 PM	#15
Rowleyball Minors (Triple A) Join Date: Oct 2002 Location: Winter Park, FL Posts: 265	Eugene, I don't see why it wouldn't be possible to use photos from different sources (I've never tried it), but you would probably have to re-number each one. It won't automatically re-number them, at least as far as I know. In my leagues I don't give photos to every player, only those who make an all-star team, win an award, or do something special. I assign a player a photo and name the photo with the player's name instead of number because his number changes after he retires. If you're leaving the photos as player numbers instead of names, that's something you'll run into when they start retiring.

04-08-2004, 07:59 PM	#16
twins15 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Aug 2002 Location: Area 51 Posts: 4,792	My vote would be for #3 or #4, but any of them would work. If you do make the photo set, I would definitely use them, that is just what I was looking for! __________________ "Ah man we're just hungry man" - Dovonte Edwards Bismarck Boy Scouts of the OTBL - league yes-man Ross Gload at baseball-reference.com Book Quotes and Book Lists

04-18-2004, 06:29 AM	#19
koohead Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Phoenix, AZ Posts: 3,211	Hey edm...any update on this? Are you still working on this minor league fictional facepack? __________________ GM - New Jersey Bears of the NPBL;