OOTP6 brings realism badly needed...however...

PFXCarty · 03-09-2004, 03:56 PM

...in terms of waivers, etc. But it still misses one vital ingrediant that without, I still find myself pushed away from the game...

...sense of time....

At the moment, for example, you can try out dozens of trades and find one that fits between games.

Wheras in real life, GMs will spend time trying to hammer our a trade over days or weeks. They will make an offer, the other team might reject out right, or mull over it for a few days.

They will then get back to you, maybe with a counter offer or accept.

This adds MUCH more importance to the deals you offer. If you continue to offer outrageous or lob-sides trades, your GM rating will decrease and other GMs will be less willing to negotiate with you.

Please OOTP ppl, do something about this. It really wouldn't be too hard to implement a time delay with a little AI...and would add some much more realism to the already great looking OOTP6.

P.S My only other wish would be more realistic deadlines for re-sigings, tendering contracts, arbitration. So the off-season becomes the off-season where you concentrate on dealing and wheeling...instead of a simple 30 day signing period

Mr.Opinion · 03-09-2004, 04:15 PM

I have yet to see a game such as this...it's either proposed or not proposed...

PFXCarty · 03-09-2004, 04:19 PM

A game which I think had it to a T was the soccer management game Championship Manager.

You really have to think about your offers to both players and teams. Sometimes the AI will try to get a good deal for itself if it feels you will take the bait.

The AI also waited on other possible moves which taking a decision on your offer. This way is was much more realistic in its decisions. And if you made an offer for a top notch player, other teams hearing this news might then also make offers over the coming days.

It's much more important to the game to do well with your transactions, whereas with OOTP it kind of been ignored.

But then again, I'm still very happy OOTP6 has waivers etc.

Beach23BoyP · 03-10-2004, 01:37 AM

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Originally posted by PFXCarty
A game which I think had it to a T was the soccer management game Championship Manager.

You really have to think about your offers to both players and teams. Sometimes the AI will try to get a good deal for itself if it feels you will take the bait.

The AI also waited on other possible moves which taking a decision on your offer. This way is was much more realistic in its decisions. And if you made an offer for a top notch player, other teams hearing this news might then also make offers over the coming days.

It's much more important to the game to do well with your transactions, whereas with OOTP it kind of been ignored.

But then again, I'm still very happy OOTP6 has waivers etc.

I agree, CM03/04 made you wait after you made your offer. Also, I liked the part where the players mulled over their contract offers for a few days or even weeks.

CM03/04 is fabulous program.

Bill

UD411Flyer · 03-10-2004, 01:53 AM

I've heard rumblings about fan support when you aquire a certain player, or lose a player. I don't know if this has any pertainment to this topic, but think it does relate kinda well.

I would like to see something, but how? is my question.

Crapshoot · 03-10-2004, 03:22 AM

It should be noted however, that CM is the best selling game in the world (and its future counterpart, Football Manager, probably will be as well) and has a a team of 10-11 people. I'd love to see this, but OOTP is now a Markus + Craig coding operation, and it will take a while to incorporate everything...

PFXCarty · 03-10-2004, 09:15 AM

I agree, we can't ask for everything immediately.

Maybe Markus and Craig handcuff themselves by searching for a new release every spring training. I know it's tradition, the fans like it and it brings in much needed revenue - but think of what they could acheive in two years solid development.

No need to get distracted by patches etc etc, just concentrate on the game. I'm sure true fans of baseball sims would appreciate this.

But still, here's hoping OOTP7 can bring this much needed edge to the whole trade/contract process.

William4192 · 03-15-2004, 07:47 PM

I really that idea. You put a trade offer in and in 3 days or a week they get back to you. But don't keep us from making another offer

03-09-2004, 03:56 PM	#1
PFXCarty Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 25	OOTP6 brings realism badly needed...however... ...in terms of waivers, etc. But it still misses one vital ingrediant that without, I still find myself pushed away from the game... ...sense of time.... At the moment, for example, you can try out dozens of trades and find one that fits between games. Wheras in real life, GMs will spend time trying to hammer our a trade over days or weeks. They will make an offer, the other team might reject out right, or mull over it for a few days. They will then get back to you, maybe with a counter offer or accept. This adds MUCH more importance to the deals you offer. If you continue to offer outrageous or lob-sides trades, your GM rating will decrease and other GMs will be less willing to negotiate with you. Please OOTP ppl, do something about this. It really wouldn't be too hard to implement a time delay with a little AI...and would add some much more realism to the already great looking OOTP6. P.S My only other wish would be more realistic deadlines for re-sigings, tendering contracts, arbitration. So the off-season becomes the off-season where you concentrate on dealing and wheeling...instead of a simple 30 day signing period

03-09-2004, 04:15 PM	#2
Mr.Opinion All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: SkiFree Lodge Posts: 883	I have yet to see a game such as this...it's either proposed or not proposed... __________________

03-09-2004, 04:19 PM	#3
PFXCarty Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 25	A game which I think had it to a T was the soccer management game Championship Manager. You really have to think about your offers to both players and teams. Sometimes the AI will try to get a good deal for itself if it feels you will take the bait. The AI also waited on other possible moves which taking a decision on your offer. This way is was much more realistic in its decisions. And if you made an offer for a top notch player, other teams hearing this news might then also make offers over the coming days. It's much more important to the game to do well with your transactions, whereas with OOTP it kind of been ignored. But then again, I'm still very happy OOTP6 has waivers etc. Last edited by PFXCarty; 03-09-2004 at 04:22 PM.

03-10-2004, 01:53 AM	#5
UD411Flyer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 583	I've heard rumblings about fan support when you aquire a certain player, or lose a player. I don't know if this has any pertainment to this topic, but think it does relate kinda well. I would like to see something, but how? is my question. __________________ Behind The Pl8-Chicago Cubs/Commissioner EIBL-Atlanta Braves/Commissioner NOBSL-Tampa Bay Devil Rays AAA-Sacranton-WB Red Barons ATGC-Orrville Red Riders

03-10-2004, 03:22 AM	#6
Crapshoot Hall Of Famer Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: watching: DArwin's missing link in action Posts: 3,112	It should be noted however, that CM is the best selling game in the world (and its future counterpart, Football Manager, probably will be as well) and has a a team of 10-11 people. I'd love to see this, but OOTP is now a Markus + Craig coding operation, and it will take a while to incorporate everything... __________________ Senior Senor Member of the OOTP Boards Pittsburgh Playmates- OTBL

03-10-2004, 09:15 AM	#7
PFXCarty Minors (Rookie Ball) Join Date: Apr 2003 Posts: 25	I agree, we can't ask for everything immediately. Maybe Markus and Craig handcuff themselves by searching for a new release every spring training. I know it's tradition, the fans like it and it brings in much needed revenue - but think of what they could acheive in two years solid development. No need to get distracted by patches etc etc, just concentrate on the game. I'm sure true fans of baseball sims would appreciate this. But still, here's hoping OOTP7 can bring this much needed edge to the whole trade/contract process.

03-15-2004, 07:47 PM	#8
William4192 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,625	I really that idea. You put a trade offer in and in 3 days or a week they get back to you. But don't keep us from making another offer __________________ What is this about Rhode Island? It is neither Road or Island. Come check out the PBA. http://www.pioneerbaseballassociation.com Or email at pbacommish@pioneerbaseballassociation.com