Should I allow this trade to go through?

jaxmagicman · 02-16-2004, 05:02 PM

In one of my leagues, someone just made this trade:

Texas Sends:

Alex Rodriquez

and

67 Million Dollars (spread out of 7 years)

to the Yankees for:

Alfonso Soriano
and A player to be named later.

I don't know. I think the Rangers GM is getting worked. Should I allow the trade to go through. It is obvious it isn't a fair trade.

treedom · 02-16-2004, 05:06 PM

LMAO!

He's tanking! Bust him!

Mike D · 02-16-2004, 05:58 PM

Is texas having payroll problems? Maybe they need to shed some payroll? Maybe he's an idiot? Maybe I want to up my post count?

UD411Flyer · 02-16-2004, 06:12 PM

gotta love Seligs explination, "i will not allow cash to be transfered like this in the future an become a norm..."

well you dip****, make an example out of theme. Don't make a "rule" after you let a team break a future "rule"...

Dagrims · 02-16-2004, 09:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by jaxmagicman
In one of my leagues, someone just made this trade:

Texas Sends:

Alex Rodriquez

and

67 Million Dollars (spread out of 7 years)

to the Yankees for:

Alfonso Soriano
and A player to be named later.

I don't know. I think the Rangers GM is getting worked. Should I allow the trade to go through. It is obvious it isn't a fair trade.

Soriano's a stud, and there's a great chance his ratings will improve with the Lahman database. If the player to be named later is Jose Contreras, the Rangers will be getting a solid pitcher for their rotation as well. Rangers will finally be able to get out from under that stupid contract they never should have made.

Thumbs up to this deal!

PotatoPeeler · 02-16-2004, 09:42 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by Dagrims
If the player to be named later is Jose Contreras...

Quote:

Originally posted by Dagrims
Rangers will finally be able to get out from under that stupid contract they never should have made.

By taking on another stupid contract?

CommishJoe · 02-16-2004, 10:01 PM

The PTBNL will not be Contreras. Reportedly, it was a list of 5 minor leaguers Texas could pick from.

What is the cap in this league?

blmeanie · 02-17-2004, 12:10 AM

about 60-80 Million for most teams.. However, there are a few teams that are allowed over the cap because God looks down on them (well, at least one of them). For that team, the cap is set at $100M higher than their current payroll at any time.

KILLERBS24 · 02-17-2004, 12:54 AM

Good deal for the Rangers, The Yankees will fall apart, they cant make 200 million dollars in OOTP

Dean Gordon · 02-17-2004, 01:58 AM

I would never allow 67m to be spread out over 7 seasons, thats insane....

$20m up front, Alfonso Soriano, 1 1st round draft pick, 2 2nd round draft picks and a 4+ star prospect for Arod would be a good deal

Dean Gordon · 02-17-2004, 02:04 AM

A similiar deal in EBL:

Orlando sends Jack "All Go" Cofield

Vancouver sends 2011 1st round, 2012 1st round, 2013 1st and 2nd round and pitchers Pennington, Harill, Robledo, Miller

Cofield is all world, but the price paid was steep....

treedom · 02-17-2004, 08:02 AM

too steep...vancouver got ripped off large, imho

JAttractive · 02-17-2004, 08:54 AM

Woah that Cofield deal seems pretty lobsided in Vancouver's favour if you asked me...

All that for a prone, undeveloped shortstop?

Jeremy Weimer · 02-17-2004, 09:27 AM

I agree with the guy above me, that seems like a pretty lopsided deal in Vancouver's favor.

treedom · 02-17-2004, 10:09 AM

wait...in vancouver's favour? no way!

vancouver got a good OBA prone hitter with no power and gave away a couple good pitchers and 3 1st round picks! i'd say nothing about this deal is in vancouver's favour...

Delgadodawg · 02-17-2004, 10:38 AM

Yeah no kidding, this deal looks very bad for Vancouver.

Dean Gordon · 02-17-2004, 11:21 AM

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Originally posted by Jeremy Weimer
I agree with the guy above me, that seems like a pretty lopsided deal in Vancouver's favor.

Uh, Cofield is going TO Vancouver.....

I think Cofield, given his abilty to play everything under the sun, the leadership intangibles, and the B/B/B/B speed/steal/bunt/sac, GGGFGG ratings will be a MVP type player..... that prone injury is a pain in the ass though..... the pitchers traded would have never pitched in Vancover....

Its one of the largest "1 player for a ton" trades I have seen.....

Dean Gordon · 02-17-2004, 11:33 AM

Actually, I remember in GMC that a 23-year old Barry Bonds went from Wilmington to Unionville for 6 players (Al Leiter, Les Lancaster, Glenn Braggs, Norm Charlton, Randy Gerrity and Angel Broaddus) and 6 2nd round draft picks (which brought in Wilson Alvarez, Mark Guthrie, Kevin Tapani, Jose Cano, Todd Zeile and Steve Finley) during the 1988 season... he never lived up to his potential in the Canadians lineup, forced to bat 6th or 7th at times and spending huge chunks of the 1992 and 1993 seasons on the DL.... was finally traded to New Cincinnati in 1995 for an aging Eddie Murrary and a young stud named Gary Sheffield .....

I think the initial Bonds deal is the biggest I have ever seen... initial responses were that Wilmington was being robbed....

LivnLegend · 02-17-2004, 11:34 AM

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Originally posted by Delgadodawg
Yeah no kidding, this deal looks very bad for Vancouver.

No, you must be kidding. Think of the poor sap that is getting traded TO Vancouver! I guess there are worse places one could be traded to...Detroit, Montreal, anywhere in New Jersey...but not many!

Dean Gordon · 02-17-2004, 11:38 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by LivnLegend
No, you must be kidding. Think of the poor sap that is getting traded TO Vancouver!

Yeah, the mountains, the ocean, the warm winters, the temperate summers, that whole "most liveable city in the world thing".... horrible place to be traded to....

02-16-2004, 05:02 PM	#1
jaxmagicman Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Retired defloration-maker living in Myrtle Beach, SC Posts: 7,801	Should I allow this trade to go through? In one of my leagues, someone just made this trade: Texas Sends: Alex Rodriquez and 67 Million Dollars (spread out of 7 years) to the Yankees for: Alfonso Soriano and A player to be named later. I don't know. I think the Rangers GM is getting worked. Should I allow the trade to go through. It is obvious it isn't a fair trade. __________________ See ID Major League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with permission of MLB Advanced Media, L.P. Minor League Baseball trademarks and copyrights are used with the permission of Minor League Baseball. All rights reserved.

02-16-2004, 05:06 PM	#2
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	LMAO! He's tanking! Bust him! __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

02-16-2004, 05:58 PM	#3
Mike D Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: In a van, down by the river Posts: 2,802	Is texas having payroll problems? Maybe they need to shed some payroll? Maybe he's an idiot? Maybe I want to up my post count? __________________ Sometimes the best laid plans will never get you laid the way you plan.

02-16-2004, 06:12 PM	#4
UD411Flyer All Star Reserve Join Date: Jan 2004 Posts: 583	gotta love Seligs explination, "i will not allow cash to be transfered like this in the future an become a norm..." well you dip****, make an example out of theme. Don't make a "rule" after you let a team break a future "rule"... __________________ Behind The Pl8-Chicago Cubs/Commissioner EIBL-Atlanta Braves/Commissioner NOBSL-Tampa Bay Devil Rays AAA-Sacranton-WB Red Barons ATGC-Orrville Red Riders

02-16-2004, 10:01 PM	#7
CommishJoe Global Moderator Join Date: Feb 2002 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 5,238	The PTBNL will not be Contreras. Reportedly, it was a list of 5 minor leaguers Texas could pick from. What is the cap in this league? __________________ Joe Success isn’t owned. It’s leased. And rent is due every day.

02-17-2004, 12:10 AM	#8
blmeanie All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Atlanta Posts: 1,044	about 60-80 Million for most teams.. However, there are a few teams that are allowed over the cap because God looks down on them (well, at least one of them). For that team, the cap is set at $100M higher than their current payroll at any time. __________________ blmeanie email me at blmeanie Above link works for some email client programs but not all, email me at blmeanie33@earthlink.net

02-17-2004, 12:54 AM	#9
KILLERBS24 All Star Reserve Join Date: Feb 2003 Posts: 938	Good deal for the Rangers, The Yankees will fall apart, they cant make 200 million dollars in OOTP

02-17-2004, 01:58 AM	#10
Dean Gordon Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 354	I would never allow 67m to be spread out over 7 seasons, thats insane.... $20m up front, Alfonso Soriano, 1 1st round draft pick, 2 2nd round draft picks and a 4+ star prospect for Arod would be a good deal

02-17-2004, 02:04 AM	#11
Dean Gordon Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 354	A similiar deal in EBL: Orlando sends Jack "All Go" Cofield Vancouver sends 2011 1st round, 2012 1st round, 2013 1st and 2nd round and pitchers Pennington, Harill, Robledo, Miller Cofield is all world, but the price paid was steep....

02-17-2004, 08:02 AM	#12
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	too steep...vancouver got ripped off large, imho __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

02-17-2004, 08:54 AM	#13
JAttractive All Star Starter Join Date: May 2002 Location: St. Catharines, Ontario Posts: 1,138	Woah that Cofield deal seems pretty lobsided in Vancouver's favour if you asked me... All that for a prone, undeveloped shortstop?

02-17-2004, 09:27 AM	#14
Jeremy Weimer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,411	I agree with the guy above me, that seems like a pretty lopsided deal in Vancouver's favor.

02-17-2004, 10:09 AM	#15
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	wait...in vancouver's favour? no way! vancouver got a good OBA prone hitter with no power and gave away a couple good pitchers and 3 1st round picks! i'd say nothing about this deal is in vancouver's favour... __________________ A rake and a roustabout.

02-17-2004, 10:38 AM	#16
Delgadodawg All Star Reserve Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Vancouver Posts: 800	Yeah no kidding, this deal looks very bad for Vancouver.

02-17-2004, 11:33 AM	#18
Dean Gordon Major Leagues Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: vancouver, canada Posts: 354	Actually, I remember in GMC that a 23-year old Barry Bonds went from Wilmington to Unionville for 6 players (Al Leiter, Les Lancaster, Glenn Braggs, Norm Charlton, Randy Gerrity and Angel Broaddus) and 6 2nd round draft picks (which brought in Wilson Alvarez, Mark Guthrie, Kevin Tapani, Jose Cano, Todd Zeile and Steve Finley) during the 1988 season... he never lived up to his potential in the Canadians lineup, forced to bat 6th or 7th at times and spending huge chunks of the 1992 and 1993 seasons on the DL.... was finally traded to New Cincinnati in 1995 for an aging Eddie Murrary and a young stud named Gary Sheffield ..... I think the initial Bonds deal is the biggest I have ever seen... initial responses were that Wilmington was being robbed.... Last edited by Dean Gordon; 02-17-2004 at 11:36 AM.