The America's Pastime Baseball League

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-06-2004, 02:30 AM

Well just recently I was left the APBL. It was a very solid league, with amazing owners. The owners cared for the league greatly. The one problem was the commish. He had a dictator's mentality. I had the Boston Red Sox in the league. I went for a different approach in the league. I ran up my salary pretty big, not usual for me. Anyways one day late in the season he springs on me and starts making fun of me because I was going to be put on probation because if you lose money he puts you on probation. I had lots of salary leaving in FA this year, so i thought I would be fine. The out comes the probation thing, in which case could have done in a much more professional manner. I had to cut salary and trade Manny, Pedro and Nomar to save my ass. I still wasnt close to being able to get off probation. So I decided to cut my losses and go on probation.

Well everything was fine, 3 games out of East and .5 game behing Anaheim in the Wild Card. Last Sunday a sim goes by. Some teams in the league left their team password as nothing, so anyone could get into this and exort and make changed to their team. There were 4 teams I believe; Toronto, Seattle, Arizona, Anaheim.

I get blamed by the commish and get kicked out of the league. He had a past of hating me but some of the other owners in the league wanted him to give me a chance in the league. So he let me in. He hated me from day one. Blocked me on aim. Wouldnt explain the rules when i had a question. Publicly made fun of me, never said one kind thing once. He decides to refuse my information in which the same thing happened to my league a couple weeks ago. I know who the individual was that did this, and he knew I was in the APBL. Now what I find funny is why was I kicked out of the league without my info being seen too and without an investigation being put forth.

Anyways, here is the link to the forum-http://apbl.stinie3.com/forum/index.php
And the link to my team-http://apbl.stinie3.com/standings/team2.html

Please gimme your feelings on this. Thanks, guys.

Modern Relic · 02-06-2004, 02:40 AM

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-06-2004, 02:50 AM

Oh and also my broadcasting revenue mysteriously went down from 39 mil to 35. And my cash went from 5 mil to 25k in the span of one sim. The guy obviously hated me, but hate or not, I should atleast be treated fairly by him.

Modern Relic · 02-06-2004, 02:54 AM

Main Entry: iro·ny
Pronunciation: 'I-r&-nE also 'I(-&)r-nE
Function: noun
Inflected Form(s): plural -nies
Etymology: Latin ironia, from Greek eirOnia, from eirOn dissembler

1 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning -- called also Socratic irony

2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c : an ironic expression or utterance

3 a (1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play -- called also dramatic irony, tragic irony

sixfour210 · 02-06-2004, 03:23 AM

Better get it in before Karen gets to this thread. . .

Fit, you're asking for trouble if you post in here so I advise you to just lay off for a while. Do something constructive FOR the community and people may welcome you back in. Until then, even I think you're a compulsive cheater and can't be trusted.

You created this mess and this isn't the way to clean it up. Like I said, doing something for the community would help. Oh yeah and admitting to everything would help too.

No one will take you seriously especially if you post something about how someone else cheated agaist you. Seems to me, like GR said, it's very fitting (pun intended

).

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-06-2004, 03:32 AM

Didnt say he cheated, Im just saying he is a bad commish and to look out for him. If I just said that with nothing to back it, then I would get yelled at, so I decided to tell everything now and then let people who want to know, know that this guy is a horrible commish who is a dictator.

sixfour210 · 02-06-2004, 03:52 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSpiceOfLife
Didnt say he cheated, Im just saying he is a bad commish and to look out for him. If I just said that with nothing to back it, then I would get yelled at, so I decided to tell everything now and then let people who want to know, know that this guy is a horrible commish who is a dictator.

You know what, just ignore what I wrote before. I could care less what you do around here. It's just a message board. I hate it when people snap at me for stuff that isn't serious so why should I do it to you.

I have no personal problem with you and I'd even give you a shot in my league if you wanted but of course you'd be watched over comstantly and you would not have access to any files. That's standard for everyone though.

At any rate, try to enjoy the game as best you can. If one league doesn't like you, move to another. Do whatever you want to enjoy this game, just not at other people's expenses. If you get enjoyment out of cheating then that's a problem. Cheat on your own time, not mine or anyone elses. Only you know whether you did it or not so admitting to it would be nice step if you did.

You're like the Pete Rose of the OOTP boards without all the hits.

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-06-2004, 03:57 AM

Well if you need a guy to manage a team in your league I am the one. I need to add another league and have been looking for a good league with a good fair commish to join.

Send me an email at michaelfitterer6@hotmail.com or aim at MFitterer022886 if you ever have a team open.

fantom1979 · 02-06-2004, 07:27 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSpiceOfLife
Didnt say he cheated, Im just saying he is a bad commish and to look out for him. If I just said that with nothing to back it, then I would get yelled at, so I decided to tell everything now and then let people who want to know, know that this guy is a horrible commish who is a dictator.

You have to remember that this entire board has convicted you as a cheater. You WILL have a hard time joining a league that will treat you with respect and fairness. You have to earn that back. Posting messages that show you have problems in other leagues is not helping your case. For the most part it does not matter if you actually cheated (or did the other things that you are accused), you are guilty on this board, and until you gain that trust back, I really dont think anyone is going to care too much if are having problems in your leagues.

clarnzz · 02-06-2004, 08:16 AM

I love your assclown of a thread in that forum going on and on about the sim schedule should be 3 times a week even after the commish said his schedule was only going to permit two. Can't imagine why he would want to shove you out the door the first chance he got.

You as an owner would probably be a little fun for a while flaming you for being a complete douche, but the fact you just won't shut up about things would get old real quick.

treedom · 02-06-2004, 08:25 AM

Cowboys3356 · 02-06-2004, 10:15 AM

TheSpiceOfLife aka Fit Dog aka Car Wash Kid aka Mfitterer is the biggest cheater in the history of online leagues and I have no doubt he is cheating again in this new league.

Why do people keep letting him into leagues?!?!?! This guy is like some kind of disease that has no cure!!!

Dagrims · 02-06-2004, 03:21 PM

Everyone makes mistakes. Just give him one more chance.

Signed,

Steve Howe

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-06-2004, 05:25 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by clarnzz
I love your assclown of a thread in that forum going on and on about the sim schedule should be 3 times a week even after the commish said his schedule was only going to permit two. Can't imagine why he would want to shove you out the door the first chance he got.

You as an owner would probably be a little fun for a while flaming you for being a complete douche, but the fact you just won't shut up about things would get old real quick.

Other owners wanted it to change as well. The problem wasn't just that he had decided to sim 2 times a week, but also that he only wanted to sim 5 days per sim.

The season has been going on since September and we just passed the trading deadline.

sporr · 02-06-2004, 05:40 PM

Karen? Where are you?

Jeremy Weimer · 02-06-2004, 05:48 PM

She's watching soap operas and eating bon bons. She'll be around later.

clarnzz · 02-06-2004, 06:52 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSpiceOfLife
Other owners wanted it to change as well. The problem wasn't just that he had decided to sim 2 times a week, but also that he only wanted to sim 5 days per sim.

The season has been going on since September and we just passed the trading deadline.

Comment by you after the commish said only 2 sims a week would be permitted by his schedule:

Quote:

I really wish we could move to 3 sims per week, wouldnt really matter when the sims ovvurred in my mind, just that there is way too much tension in the league for 2 sims a week. Activity could be much higher in the league if we had 3 sims per week, mainly because teams have less time between each sim to make a change on their roster.
At this current pace it will take us 6 months to get through a season. In my league with 3 sims a week it takes about 2.5 to 3.
What y'all think?

Quite annoying, not only are you continuing to go on about something that was already deemed impossible by the commish. You tossed in the old "What y'all think" as if you were hoping the rest of the league would jump in with you and demand it. That thread was pretty much all I needed to read to see why the commish would want to get rid of you.

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-06-2004, 06:53 PM

Over half the league feels this way, but doesnt want to say anything in public because they know the Commish is a hothead. You can ask the owners in the league, a lot of them want to speed up the season.

clarnzz · 02-06-2004, 07:04 PM

Quote:

Originally posted by TheSpiceOfLife
Over half the league feels this way, but doesnt want to say anything in public because they know the Commish is a hothead. You can ask the owners in the league, a lot of them want to speed up the season.

Well then they need to find a league that better suits their desires, I am sure you all knew the sim schedule when you signed up. The commish saying it is not possible for him to do so should of been case closed imo. His replies in that thread are like bubblegum compared to what I would of said to you.

TheSpiceOfLife · 02-06-2004, 07:07 PM

We then later on asked if we could sim ten days instead of 5, in which he really exploded.

02-06-2004, 02:30 AM	#1
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	The America's Pastime Baseball League Well just recently I was left the APBL. It was a very solid league, with amazing owners. The owners cared for the league greatly. The one problem was the commish. He had a dictator's mentality. I had the Boston Red Sox in the league. I went for a different approach in the league. I ran up my salary pretty big, not usual for me. Anyways one day late in the season he springs on me and starts making fun of me because I was going to be put on probation because if you lose money he puts you on probation. I had lots of salary leaving in FA this year, so i thought I would be fine. The out comes the probation thing, in which case could have done in a much more professional manner. I had to cut salary and trade Manny, Pedro and Nomar to save my ass. I still wasnt close to being able to get off probation. So I decided to cut my losses and go on probation. Well everything was fine, 3 games out of East and .5 game behing Anaheim in the Wild Card. Last Sunday a sim goes by. Some teams in the league left their team password as nothing, so anyone could get into this and exort and make changed to their team. There were 4 teams I believe; Toronto, Seattle, Arizona, Anaheim. I get blamed by the commish and get kicked out of the league. He had a past of hating me but some of the other owners in the league wanted him to give me a chance in the league. So he let me in. He hated me from day one. Blocked me on aim. Wouldnt explain the rules when i had a question. Publicly made fun of me, never said one kind thing once. He decides to refuse my information in which the same thing happened to my league a couple weeks ago. I know who the individual was that did this, and he knew I was in the APBL. Now what I find funny is why was I kicked out of the league without my info being seen too and without an investigation being put forth. Anyways, here is the link to the forum-http://apbl.stinie3.com/forum/index.php And the link to my team-http://apbl.stinie3.com/standings/team2.html Please gimme your feelings on this. Thanks, guys.

02-06-2004, 02:40 AM	#2
Modern Relic All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,266	__________________ American Folklore Baseball League (closed): Commissioner/GM - Mudville Nine (ruled!) Former member of Boys of Summer: GM - St. Louis Browns (doormats!) Former member of the OTBL: GM - Gashouse Gorillas (also ruled!) "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

02-06-2004, 02:54 AM	#4
Modern Relic All Star Starter Join Date: Dec 2001 Posts: 1,266	Main Entry: iro·ny Pronunciation: 'I-r&-nE also 'I(-&)r-nE Function: noun Inflected Form(s): plural -nies Etymology: Latin ironia, from Greek eirOnia, from eirOn dissembler 1 : a pretense of ignorance and of willingness to learn from another assumed in order to make the other's false conceptions conspicuous by adroit questioning -- called also Socratic irony 2 a : the use of words to express something other than and especially the opposite of the literal meaning b : a usually humorous or sardonic literary style or form characterized by irony c : an ironic expression or utterance 3 a (1) : incongruity between the actual result of a sequence of events and the normal or expected result (2) : an event or result marked by such incongruity b : incongruity between a situation developed in a drama and the accompanying words or actions that is understood by the audience but not by the characters in the play -- called also dramatic irony, tragic irony __________________ American Folklore Baseball League (closed): Commissioner/GM - Mudville Nine (ruled!) Former member of Boys of Summer: GM - St. Louis Browns (doormats!) Former member of the OTBL: GM - Gashouse Gorillas (also ruled!) "People ask me what I do in winter when there's no baseball. I'll tell you what I do. I stare out the window and wait for spring." Rogers Hornsby

02-06-2004, 03:23 AM	#5
sixfour210 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2003 Location: Virginia Posts: 1,227	Better get it in before Karen gets to this thread. . . Fit, you're asking for trouble if you post in here so I advise you to just lay off for a while. Do something constructive FOR the community and people may welcome you back in. Until then, even I think you're a compulsive cheater and can't be trusted. You created this mess and this isn't the way to clean it up. Like I said, doing something for the community would help. Oh yeah and admitting to everything would help too. No one will take you seriously especially if you post something about how someone else cheated agaist you. Seems to me, like GR said, it's very fitting (pun intended ). __________________

02-06-2004, 08:25 AM	#11
treedom Hall Of Famer Join Date: May 2002 Location: Transylvania Posts: 2,900	__________________ A rake and a roustabout.

02-06-2004, 02:50 AM	#3
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	Oh and also my broadcasting revenue mysteriously went down from 39 mil to 35. And my cash went from 5 mil to 25k in the span of one sim. The guy obviously hated me, but hate or not, I should atleast be treated fairly by him.

02-06-2004, 03:32 AM	#6
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	Didnt say he cheated, Im just saying he is a bad commish and to look out for him. If I just said that with nothing to back it, then I would get yelled at, so I decided to tell everything now and then let people who want to know, know that this guy is a horrible commish who is a dictator.

02-06-2004, 03:57 AM	#8
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	Well if you need a guy to manage a team in your league I am the one. I need to add another league and have been looking for a good league with a good fair commish to join. Send me an email at michaelfitterer6@hotmail.com or aim at MFitterer022886 if you ever have a team open.

02-06-2004, 08:16 AM	#10
clarnzz All Star Starter Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: Following everyone off a cliff. Posts: 1,522	I love your assclown of a thread in that forum going on and on about the sim schedule should be 3 times a week even after the commish said his schedule was only going to permit two. Can't imagine why he would want to shove you out the door the first chance he got. You as an owner would probably be a little fun for a while flaming you for being a complete douche, but the fact you just won't shut up about things would get old real quick.

02-06-2004, 10:15 AM	#12
Cowboys3356 All Star Starter Join Date: Sep 2003 Posts: 1,571	TheSpiceOfLife aka Fit Dog aka Car Wash Kid aka Mfitterer is the biggest cheater in the history of online leagues and I have no doubt he is cheating again in this new league. Why do people keep letting him into leagues?!?!?! This guy is like some kind of disease that has no cure!!!

02-06-2004, 03:21 PM	#13
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	Everyone makes mistakes. Just give him one more chance. Signed, Steve Howe

02-06-2004, 05:40 PM	#15
sporr Global Moderator Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Muscatine, IA Posts: 8,277	Karen? Where are you?

02-06-2004, 05:48 PM	#16
Jeremy Weimer Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2003 Location: Minneapolis, MN Posts: 3,411	She's watching soap operas and eating bon bons. She'll be around later.

02-06-2004, 06:53 PM	#18
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	Over half the league feels this way, but doesnt want to say anything in public because they know the Commish is a hothead. You can ask the owners in the league, a lot of them want to speed up the season.

02-06-2004, 07:07 PM	#20
TheSpiceOfLife Banned Join Date: Jan 2004 Location: Beaverton, Oregon Posts: 129	We then later on asked if we could sim ten days instead of 5, in which he really exploded.