When is it not to early?...

William4192 · 01-08-2004, 05:27 PM

to talk about a contract when the player gives you that message?

William4192 · 01-08-2004, 06:55 PM

Anyone know what date they will let you talk about extending a contract?

Steve Kuffrey · 01-08-2004, 09:48 PM

Wait atleast a month into the season.

HolyCow98 · 01-08-2004, 11:12 PM

I usually start checking it the end of the first week of May. Sometimes you will see guys be willing to negotiate earlier, sometimes even as early as spring training but that doesn't happen very often.

joncarlos · 01-09-2004, 08:56 AM

If the player is loyal he will probably, but not always, talk to you sooner. Usually late April. Other guys usually seem to wait till at least mid-May.

JerseyPride · 01-09-2004, 10:20 AM

Too go along with this question, is there any advantages in waiting to offer a player a contract. Will his demands go down at all later in the year or anything of that nature?

joncarlos · 01-09-2004, 10:23 AM

Quote:

Originally posted by JerseyPride
Too go along with this question, is there any advantages in waiting to offer a player a contract. Will his demands go down at all later in the year or anything of that nature?

I have found a couple loyal guys who signed cheap early in the year. Beyond that I don't know if there are other advantages or not.

Dagrims · 01-09-2004, 11:25 AM

I thought that a player's current year stats played a role in his salary demands, particularly if they're significantly better or worse than past performance or ratings would predict. Arbitration seems to work this way - players that have a great season get higher arbitration $ than listed for them at the beginning of the year.

If this impression is wrong, I'd like to know.

Chris

William4192 · 01-09-2004, 11:42 AM

I'm with Dagrims, does stats affect it at all? or all?

panther · 01-09-2004, 01:31 PM

Stats do play a role in the contract demands. When I started my Tigers dynasty

I looked to resign a player. I thought that the player wanted too much so I decided to wait. Turns out the player had a great year and when I went back to resign him, he wanted alot more than before. I have also seen it go the other way, if a player has a crap year, they will ask for less.

ssmarsh · 01-09-2004, 03:39 PM

I usually check a players demands throughout the season to guage who I may want to try and re-sign. I've seen players, mostly pitchers, demand a lot one month then have a few bad starts in a row and all of a sudden their demands drop (significantly in some cases).

Karros270 · 01-09-2004, 08:18 PM

I thought salary demands were based more on retings than actual stats. Did this get changed? If so kudos to Markus!

HolyCow98 · 01-09-2004, 08:46 PM

Yeah, stats now impact the offers.
Yes this was added in by Markus in one of the patches some months ago...

William4192 · 01-09-2004, 08:49 PM

Good to hear stats matter!

holyroller · 01-09-2004, 09:58 PM

They definitely matter. In the PWBL, Aaron Robinson was coming off a huge season and early in the season he wanted about 5.5 a year. This season he has had a very down season and I just re-signed him for two years at 3.8 per.

01-08-2004, 05:27 PM	#1
William4192 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,625	When is it not to early?... to talk about a contract when the player gives you that message? __________________ What is this about Rhode Island? It is neither Road or Island. Come check out the PBA. http://www.pioneerbaseballassociation.com Or email at pbacommish@pioneerbaseballassociation.com

01-08-2004, 06:55 PM	#2
William4192 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,625	Anyone know what date they will let you talk about extending a contract? __________________ What is this about Rhode Island? It is neither Road or Island. Come check out the PBA. http://www.pioneerbaseballassociation.com Or email at pbacommish@pioneerbaseballassociation.com

01-08-2004, 09:48 PM	#3
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,023	Wait atleast a month into the season. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

01-08-2004, 11:12 PM	#4
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	I usually start checking it the end of the first week of May. Sometimes you will see guys be willing to negotiate earlier, sometimes even as early as spring training but that doesn't happen very often. __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

01-09-2004, 08:56 AM	#5
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01-09-2004, 10:20 AM	#6
JerseyPride All Star Reserve Join Date: May 2003 Location: Dirtay Jerzey Posts: 951	Too go along with this question, is there any advantages in waiting to offer a player a contract. Will his demands go down at all later in the year or anything of that nature? __________________ "I guess you could call the Yanks my daddys." -Pedro Martinez

01-09-2004, 11:25 AM	#8
Dagrims Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jan 2002 Location: Orlando, FL Posts: 3,827	I thought that a player's current year stats played a role in his salary demands, particularly if they're significantly better or worse than past performance or ratings would predict. Arbitration seems to work this way - players that have a great season get higher arbitration $ than listed for them at the beginning of the year. If this impression is wrong, I'd like to know. Chris

01-09-2004, 11:42 AM	#9
William4192 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,625	I'm with Dagrims, does stats affect it at all? or all? __________________ What is this about Rhode Island? It is neither Road or Island. Come check out the PBA. http://www.pioneerbaseballassociation.com Or email at pbacommish@pioneerbaseballassociation.com

01-09-2004, 01:31 PM	#10
panther Bat Boy Join Date: Mar 2002 Posts: 15	Stats do play a role in the contract demands. When I started my Tigers dynasty I looked to resign a player. I thought that the player wanted too much so I decided to wait. Turns out the player had a great year and when I went back to resign him, he wanted alot more than before. I have also seen it go the other way, if a player has a crap year, they will ask for less.

01-09-2004, 03:39 PM	#11
ssmarsh Minors (Double A) Join Date: Jun 2003 Posts: 178	I usually check a players demands throughout the season to guage who I may want to try and re-sign. I've seen players, mostly pitchers, demand a lot one month then have a few bad starts in a row and all of a sudden their demands drop (significantly in some cases).

01-09-2004, 08:18 PM	#12
Karros270 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Oct 2003 Location: Los Angeles Posts: 2,392	I thought salary demands were based more on retings than actual stats. Did this get changed? If so kudos to Markus! __________________ now everybody's praying...don't prey on me

01-09-2004, 08:46 PM	#13
HolyCow98 Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: Douglasville, GA Posts: 2,735	Yeah, stats now impact the offers. Yes this was added in by Markus in one of the patches some months ago... __________________ NPBL Enjoying its 60th season Georgia GM

01-09-2004, 08:49 PM	#14
William4192 All Star Starter Join Date: Mar 2002 Location: Florida Posts: 1,625	Good to hear stats matter! __________________ What is this about Rhode Island? It is neither Road or Island. Come check out the PBA. http://www.pioneerbaseballassociation.com Or email at pbacommish@pioneerbaseballassociation.com

01-09-2004, 09:58 PM	#15
holyroller Hall Of Famer Join Date: Jun 2002 Location: OTBL Forums Posts: 3,532	They definitely matter. In the PWBL, Aaron Robinson was coming off a huge season and early in the season he wanted about 5.5 a year. This season he has had a very down season and I just re-signed him for two years at 3.8 per. __________________ Back to work, but not drawing a paycheck. TonyJ et. al.'s alias “I confused it with the chicken’s neck,” Mocanu, who was admitted to the emergency hospital in Galati, was quoted as saying. “I cut it ... and the dog rushed and ate it.”