Illegal Operation When Returning to "Schedule"

blackfire83 · 04-27-2002, 08:42 AM

Hey there,

I just recently downloaded and purchased OOTP4 and am impressed with the game, but annoyed with its constant problems. It crashes quite occasionally, but all of them hadn't been reoccuring... until now.

I just finished playing a game in my Custom League, and when I clicked 'done' on the Box Score, I assumed it simmed the other games. However, when it tried to go back to the schedule, I got an Illegal Operation, as follows:

OOTP4 caused an invalid page fault in
module MSVCRT.DLL at 017f:780019ef.
Registers:
EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=780019ef EFLGS=00010212
EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=00d7ed0c EBP=00d7f5ac
ECX=00000010 DS=0187 ESI=00d7ed1c FS=790f
EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=a0004f94 GS=0000
Bytes at CS:EIP:
f3 ab 85 d2 0f 85 2b ff 00 00 8b 44 24 08 5f c3
Stack dump:
00a7d028 006286f8 a0004f94 00000000 00000040 00d7fcd4 00000000 00000000 00000000 00d7edc2 00d7ed88 bff73f12 00000003 bff741f7 bffc9490 00ea6440

Now, everytime I load that league and try to go to the schedule, I get the same thing. I'm really upset, cause I want to play this game, and it's doing its best to keep me away. I'd really appreciate some support in this matter...

My PC
AMD Athlon, 1.3 GHz
512 Mb RAM
32 Mb Nvidia TNT2 graphics card,
DirectX 8.1
Win98 Second Edition
Running OOPT4 version 4.0c

Please help.

<small>[ 04-27-2002, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: blackfire83 ]</small>

Steve Kuffrey · 04-27-2002, 08:51 AM

Did you have anythingelse running in the background when this happened? Does it allow you to open other parts of the game in this league besides the schedule?

Have you tried restarting your PC since this happened? Then trying to run this part of the league?

blackfire83 · 04-27-2002, 09:07 AM

I do have other things running, but I'm able to load other leagues and go to their schedule page without error. Also, I can go to any other part of the troublesome league, including team pages, standings, news, league leaders, etc. I have not tried rebooting just yet, but I have tried backing up and restoring the league, to no avail. It's obviously the league that has the problem, however, because other leagues don't have that problem.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-27-2002, 09:15 AM

Try making a copy of the entire league folder then open the "copy" league and go to "league setup" and choose the "reset league". See if that will allow you to go to the schedule.

blackfire83 · 04-27-2002, 09:44 AM

Hmm, okay.

I did what you instructed, made a copy of the league (a direct folder copy) and then loaded up the copy. After "Resetting" the League, the Schedule page would load, but, of course, the schedule had been reset. Is this the only solution? I admit, it's better than nothing, but I would prefer to get my season back. Thanks for the help so far.

P.S. Is there any 'official' bug list that I should submit this to so it can be addressed in a future patch.

<small>[ 04-27-2002, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: blackfire83 ]</small>

Scott Vibert · 04-27-2002, 09:50 AM

Its noted... but we need more information to diagnose what actually happened to cause your problem.

You mentioned you had frequent crashes earlier... this is troublesome... were there any common threads tying those crashes together. For example did they all occur while simming games?

blackfire83 · 04-27-2002, 10:09 AM

All of the other crashes were either freeze ups, or completely 'undocumented' (i.e. not an illegal operation, just a dump to the desktop). I can think of one case when it exited to the desktop while simming games. Another time it had problems when I tried to remove leagues (found out through the boards not to delete league folders) and that was solved. At least one other time the program has crashed, but I don't believe that was during the simming of games. I can't remember exactly what it was. However, that's at least three crashes in the two days I've had it, which is really bothering me. Thanks again for the continuing help.

Scott Vibert · 04-27-2002, 11:10 AM

The crashes during the simming of games are all related... they occur because a team had an invalid lineup/pitching rotation/depth chart (this is the most common cause of crashes in this game). To fix it check all the lineups/depth charts/pitching rotations and make sure they are all filled in and valid. Sometimes after an injury or trade the lineups or rotations will become invalid, causing the crash.

An easy way to check the computer teams is to go to the League Setup screen and Click Run Automanager on All Teams... this will fix the computer teams up, preventing that type of dump to desktop.

blackfire83 · 04-27-2002, 12:11 PM

Well, I guess I'm stuck. No more help is coming, so I assume I just have to start my league over again? Is there no way to fix this? I really want to go play the game, but I'm waiting for a reply on whether or not my problem is fixable. If not, I'll be upset, but I'll get over it. Just wanna know so I can play the game.

Steve Kuffrey · 04-27-2002, 12:16 PM

I don't think that the season you were playing is recoverable, but if resetting the season solved the problem of accessing the schedule screen atleast you can restart the league.

LuvDaReds · 04-30-2002, 03:46 PM

I had this happen tonight....second season of a fictional career league....2lge, 1div each...4 teams per.

I was simming the world series....it was 3 games to 2....when it started crashing when i tried to sim or go back into the schedule.

04-27-2002, 08:42 AM	#1
blackfire83 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: WV, USA Posts: 12	Illegal Operation When Returning to "Schedule" Hey there, I just recently downloaded and purchased OOTP4 and am impressed with the game, but annoyed with its constant problems. It crashes quite occasionally, but all of them hadn't been reoccuring... until now. I just finished playing a game in my Custom League, and when I clicked 'done' on the Box Score, I assumed it simmed the other games. However, when it tried to go back to the schedule, I got an Illegal Operation, as follows: OOTP4 caused an invalid page fault in module MSVCRT.DLL at 017f:780019ef. Registers: EAX=00000000 CS=017f EIP=780019ef EFLGS=00010212 EBX=00000000 SS=0187 ESP=00d7ed0c EBP=00d7f5ac ECX=00000010 DS=0187 ESI=00d7ed1c FS=790f EDX=00000000 ES=0187 EDI=a0004f94 GS=0000 Bytes at CS:EIP: f3 ab 85 d2 0f 85 2b ff 00 00 8b 44 24 08 5f c3 Stack dump: 00a7d028 006286f8 a0004f94 00000000 00000040 00d7fcd4 00000000 00000000 00000000 00d7edc2 00d7ed88 bff73f12 00000003 bff741f7 bffc9490 00ea6440 Now, everytime I load that league and try to go to the schedule, I get the same thing. I'm really upset, cause I want to play this game, and it's doing its best to keep me away. I'd really appreciate some support in this matter... My PC AMD Athlon, 1.3 GHz 512 Mb RAM 32 Mb Nvidia TNT2 graphics card, DirectX 8.1 Win98 Second Edition Running OOPT4 version 4.0c Please help. <small>[ 04-27-2002, 02:44 PM: Message edited by: blackfire83 ]</small>

04-27-2002, 08:51 AM	#2
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Did you have anythingelse running in the background when this happened? Does it allow you to open other parts of the game in this league besides the schedule? Have you tried restarting your PC since this happened? Then trying to run this part of the league? __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-27-2002, 09:15 AM	#4
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	Try making a copy of the entire league folder then open the "copy" league and go to "league setup" and choose the "reset league". See if that will allow you to go to the schedule. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-27-2002, 12:16 PM	#10
Steve Kuffrey Administrator Join Date: Jul 1999 Location: S.E. TN - Georgia born and raised Posts: 17,036	I don't think that the season you were playing is recoverable, but if resetting the season solved the problem of accessing the schedule screen atleast you can restart the league. __________________ Steve Kuffrey DABS Atlanta Braves - 2008 Eastern Division Champ *DBLC Atlanta Braves - 2011, 2014 East Division Champ, 2012, 2013 NL Wildcard Baseball Maelstrom-Montreal Expos-2013 Tourney winner, 2014 WC Team Sparky's League - Tampa Bay D'Rays Epicenter Baseball League - Astros 2014 The CBL Rewind - Phillies '95

04-27-2002, 09:07 AM	#3
blackfire83 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: WV, USA Posts: 12	I do have other things running, but I'm able to load other leagues and go to their schedule page without error. Also, I can go to any other part of the troublesome league, including team pages, standings, news, league leaders, etc. I have not tried rebooting just yet, but I have tried backing up and restoring the league, to no avail. It's obviously the league that has the problem, however, because other leagues don't have that problem.

04-27-2002, 09:44 AM	#5
blackfire83 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: WV, USA Posts: 12	Hmm, okay. I did what you instructed, made a copy of the league (a direct folder copy) and then loaded up the copy. After "Resetting" the League, the Schedule page would load, but, of course, the schedule had been reset. Is this the only solution? I admit, it's better than nothing, but I would prefer to get my season back. Thanks for the help so far. P.S. Is there any 'official' bug list that I should submit this to so it can be addressed in a future patch. <small>[ 04-27-2002, 03:44 PM: Message edited by: blackfire83 ]</small>

04-27-2002, 09:50 AM	#6
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	Its noted... but we need more information to diagnose what actually happened to cause your problem. You mentioned you had frequent crashes earlier... this is troublesome... were there any common threads tying those crashes together. For example did they all occur while simming games?

04-27-2002, 10:09 AM	#7
blackfire83 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: WV, USA Posts: 12	All of the other crashes were either freeze ups, or completely 'undocumented' (i.e. not an illegal operation, just a dump to the desktop). I can think of one case when it exited to the desktop while simming games. Another time it had problems when I tried to remove leagues (found out through the boards not to delete league folders) and that was solved. At least one other time the program has crashed, but I don't believe that was during the simming of games. I can't remember exactly what it was. However, that's at least three crashes in the two days I've had it, which is really bothering me. Thanks again for the continuing help.

04-27-2002, 11:10 AM	#8
Scott Vibert Hall Of Famer Join Date: Dec 2001 Location: My Computer Posts: 8,249	The crashes during the simming of games are all related... they occur because a team had an invalid lineup/pitching rotation/depth chart (this is the most common cause of crashes in this game). To fix it check all the lineups/depth charts/pitching rotations and make sure they are all filled in and valid. Sometimes after an injury or trade the lineups or rotations will become invalid, causing the crash. An easy way to check the computer teams is to go to the League Setup screen and Click Run Automanager on All Teams... this will fix the computer teams up, preventing that type of dump to desktop.

04-27-2002, 12:11 PM	#9
blackfire83 Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: WV, USA Posts: 12	Well, I guess I'm stuck. No more help is coming, so I assume I just have to start my league over again? Is there no way to fix this? I really want to go play the game, but I'm waiting for a reply on whether or not my problem is fixable. If not, I'll be upset, but I'll get over it. Just wanna know so I can play the game.

04-30-2002, 03:46 PM	#11
LuvDaReds Bat Boy Join Date: Apr 2002 Location: Winter Park, Florida Posts: 4	I had this happen tonight....second season of a fictional career league....2lge, 1div each...4 teams per. I was simming the world series....it was 3 games to 2....when it started crashing when i tried to sim or go back into the schedule.